Russiagate: Why has the NSA refused to disclose?

[gipper]

The NSA knows if Trump colluded with the Russians. Why do we need Mueller? Why is Hillary not being also investigated? Why has the MSM pushed this obviously contrived story? William Binney and other experts have stated on the record the NSA KNOWS, but why have they not come forth? Why has Trump not fired Mueller and prosecuted Hillary and Comey?

Answer to all these questions is the Military Industrial Complex, per Paul Craig Roberts. Trump fears it and like all prior presidents since JFK, won't confront it.

Which begs the question, how corrupt must the central government become before the American people take action?

Is Washington the Most Corrupt Government in History?
By Paul Craig Roberts

PaulCraigRoberts.org

December 1, 2017
Why are the clearly false charges against Trump being investigated and the clearly true charges against Hillary not being investigated? The answer is that Hillary with her hostility toward Russia and her denunciation of Russian President Putin as the “New Hitler” is not a threat to the budget and power of the US military/security complex, while Trump’s aim of normalizing relations with Russia would deprive the military/security complex of the “enemy” it requires to justify its massive budget and power.

Why hasn’t President Trump ordered the Justice Department to investigate Hillary? Is the answer that Trump is afraid the military/security complex will assassinate him? Why hasn’t the Justice Department undertaken the investigation on its own? Is the answer that Trump’s government is allied with his enemies?
How corrupt does Mueller have to be to agree to lead a fake investigation designed to overthrow the democratic election of the President of the United States? Why doesn’t Trump have Mueller and Comey arrested for sedition and conspiring to overthrow the president of the United States?

Why instead is Mueller expanding his investigation beyond his mandate and bringing charges against Manafort and others for decade-old under-reporting of income? Why instead is Congress harassing journalist Randy Credico for interviewing Julian Assange? How does an interview become part of the House Intelligence (sic) Committee’s investigation into “Russian active measures directed at the 2016 U.S. election?” There were no such active measures, but the uranium sale was real.
The Most Corrupt Government in History? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

 

[g5000]

Lew Rockwell.

 

[gipper]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

 

[NightFox]

Ummm... NSA the most secretive agency in the Federal Intelligence Apparatus (and NOT a law enforcement agency) doesn't exactly have a history of transparency and making "what it knows" public.

You got a better shot at finding out what Jimmy Hoffa knows about this "Russian Collusion" imbroglio than you have at finding out what the NSA knows about it.

 

[gipper]

Ummm... NSA the most secretive agency in the Federal Intelligence Apparatus (and NOT a law enforcement agency) doesn't exactly have a history of transparency and making "what it knows" public.

You got a better shot at finding out what Jimmy Hoffa knows about this "Russian Collusion" imbroglio than you have at finding out what the NSA knows about it.

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

The NSA needs to be dissolved, but now I am dreaming.

Paul Craig Roberts' point is the NSA knows but is refusing to tell the American people who pay it's bills, to protect and promote the military industry complex.

 

[NightFox]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

IMHO unfortunately Rockwell got off into the weeds with conspiracy theorists and partisan politics, he should have stuck with what he's really good at talking about, Austrian School Economics.

 

[gipper]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

IMHO unfortunately Rockwell got off into the weeds with conspiracy theorists and partisan politics, he should have stuck with what he's really good at talking about, Austrian School Economics.

Doesn't matter. His daily linked articles are not about HIS conspiracy theories or politics.

 

[NightFox]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

IMHO unfortunately Rockwell got off into the weeds with conspiracy theorists and partisan politics, he should have stuck with what he's really good at talking about, Austrian School Economics.

Doesn't matter. His daily linked articles are not about HIS conspiracy theories or politics.

Yeah I know, I respect Lew Rockwell when it comes to Economics, just saying I don't really care for a lot of the stuff he passes along by (some) other authors because of the conspiracy theory/partisan politics nature of it.

In other words, I miss the old Von Mises institute focused Lew...

 

[gipper]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

IMHO unfortunately Rockwell got off into the weeds with conspiracy theorists and partisan politics, he should have stuck with what he's really good at talking about, Austrian School Economics.

Doesn't matter. His daily linked articles are not about HIS conspiracy theories or politics.

Yeah I know, I respect Lew Rockwell when it comes to Economics, just saying I don't really care for a lot of the stuff he passes along by (some) other authors because of the conspiracy theory/partisan politics nature of it.

In other words, I miss the old Von Mises institute focused Lew...

The old Lew is still there.

 

[NightFox]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

IMHO unfortunately Rockwell got off into the weeds with conspiracy theorists and partisan politics, he should have stuck with what he's really good at talking about, Austrian School Economics.

Doesn't matter. His daily linked articles are not about HIS conspiracy theories or politics.

Yeah I know, I respect Lew Rockwell when it comes to Economics, just saying I don't really care for a lot of the stuff he passes along by (some) other authors because of the conspiracy theory/partisan politics nature of it.

In other words, I miss the old Von Mises institute focused Lew...

The old Lew is still there.

Unfortunately it's a guilt by association type of situation, case in point, uninformed dickheads like G5000 come in and disparage him without knowing anything about HIS work and judge him based on the works of others he passes along. In other words it clouds all the thought provoking work Rockwell has done in the area of Econ.

Just an observation, I still respect the guy and appreciate all the insights he's provided over the years, not to mention the debt of gratitude he's owed for the Von Mises Institute.

 

[Tehon]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

 

[gipper]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

There isn't one any sane person would consider even good. So, no government is best.

 

[NightFox]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

A non-existent one...

Unfortunately the current state of human nature makes that all but impossible at scale, so as an alternative we're left with one that is as decentralized and limited as possible to the point where It has no authority beyond protecting the life, liberty and property of the citizenry. Of course history suggests that even if government starts out that way, it NEVER stays that way and inevitably becomes a exploiter of the citizenry instead of its servant.

So we have two hopes for the future to eliminate the necessity of placing one group of people in power over another group of people; Human evolution or AI.

 

[Tehon]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

There isn't one any sane person would consider even good. So, no government is best.

The absence of government isn't a form of government. It's anarchy.

 

[Tehon]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

A non-existent one...

Unfortunately the current state of human nature makes that all but impossible at scale, so as an alternative we're left with one that is as decentralized and limited as possible to the point where It has no authority beyond protecting the life, liberty and property of the citizenry. Of course history suggests that even if government starts out that way, it NEVER stays that way and inevitably becomes a exploiter of the citizenry instead of its servant.

So we have two hopes for the future to eliminate the necessity of placing one group of people in power over another group of people; Human evolution or AI.

The capitalist system of production is incompatible with the type of government you long for. It places one group of people over another group naturally. If we are to evolve into a society such that you prefer it would necessitate the evolution of the social relations of production.

 

[gipper]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

There isn't one any sane person would consider even good. So, no government is best.

The absence of government isn't a form of government. It's anarchy.

Works for me and is far better than the shit we have now.

 

[gipper]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

A non-existent one...

Unfortunately the current state of human nature makes that all but impossible at scale, so as an alternative we're left with one that is as decentralized and limited as possible to the point where It has no authority beyond protecting the life, liberty and property of the citizenry. Of course history suggests that even if government starts out that way, it NEVER stays that way and inevitably becomes a exploiter of the citizenry instead of its servant.

So we have two hopes for the future to eliminate the necessity of placing one group of people in power over another group of people; Human evolution or AI.

The capitalist system of production is incompatible with the type of government you long for. It places one group of people over another group naturally. If we are to evolve into a society such that you prefer it would necessitate the evolution of the social relations of production.

I do not disagree. The problem with your belief that communism is the answer, is it devolves into dictatorship.

Capitalism is not a form of government. It is a free exchange of goods between free people...problem is always when government steps in, as it has done in the USA, it fucks it all up and causes concentration of wealth and political power to a small elite group. Just as communism does.

 

[NightFox]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

A non-existent one...

Unfortunately the current state of human nature makes that all but impossible at scale, so as an alternative we're left with one that is as decentralized and limited as possible to the point where It has no authority beyond protecting the life, liberty and property of the citizenry. Of course history suggests that even if government starts out that way, it NEVER stays that way and inevitably becomes a exploiter of the citizenry instead of its servant.

So we have two hopes for the future to eliminate the necessity of placing one group of people in power over another group of people; Human evolution or AI.

The capitalist system of production is incompatible with the type of government you long for. It places one group of people over another group naturally. If we are to evolve into a society such that you prefer it would necessitate the evolution of the social relations of production.

Voluntary exchange doesn't "put one group of people over another group of people naturally", what does that is the fact that human beings are not all born with the same abilities. Economics provides NO solution to that problem because at the end of the day the current incarnation of human nature dictates the limitation of our choices for solving the most important question that economics attempts to address, namely "infinite human wants, finite resources".

So no, "social relations of production" won't solve anything, it'll just rearrange which small group of people hold the power. Capitalism is the best we have RIGHT NOW and it has the track record to prove it but even the best suffers from the limitations inherent in our psychology and the inequality of individual ability.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lew Rockwell.

Much like Drudge, Lew Rockwell publishes columns written by others. Paul Craig Roberts is the author. Do you know anything about him?

Now...do you dispute anything he wrote?

this guy?

Sandy Hook Puzzles - PaulCraigRoberts.org

lol

 

[Tehon]

Agreed....yet Americans like to think their government is the best form of government in the world. LMFAO.

What form of government do you believe to be best?

A non-existent one...

Unfortunately the current state of human nature makes that all but impossible at scale, so as an alternative we're left with one that is as decentralized and limited as possible to the point where It has no authority beyond protecting the life, liberty and property of the citizenry. Of course history suggests that even if government starts out that way, it NEVER stays that way and inevitably becomes a exploiter of the citizenry instead of its servant.

So we have two hopes for the future to eliminate the necessity of placing one group of people in power over another group of people; Human evolution or AI.

The capitalist system of production is incompatible with the type of government you long for. It places one group of people over another group naturally. If we are to evolve into a society such that you prefer it would necessitate the evolution of the social relations of production.

Voluntary exchange doesn't "put one group of people over another group of people naturally", what does that is the fact that human beings are not all born with the same abilities. Economics provides NO solution to that problem because at the end of the day the current incarnation of human nature dictates the limitation of our choices for solving the most important question that economics attempts to address, namely "infinite human wants, finite resources".

So no, "social relations of production" won't solve anything, it'll just rearrange which small group of people hold the power. Capitalism is the best we have RIGHT NOW and it has the track record to prove it but even the best suffers from the limitations inherent in our psychology and the inequality of individual ability.

That is a straw man argument. I didn't say anything about how we exchange commodities. I specifically referred to how we produce commodities. And it does naturally create a ruling class.