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Dude. THe numbers in your op are absurd.
If you want to go with them, you at the very least need to find a more credible source, one that explains these very surprising numbers before you continue trying to draw conclusions on them.
Or let this thread die, and try again with less ridiculous numbers.
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS: if your not interested in this topic what are you doing in this thread then?
193K for Australia?
I'm calling bullshit. There is some type of statistically lying going on here.
without bothering to read the article ----I am convinced that it is based on
------lousy data. "MEDIAN WEALTH"-----I have no idea what my
"WEALTH" is-----nor would I care to put whatever such a figure might
be on a questionnaire. I do have a PC----but it is really lousy-----I have
some old beat up dishes and ----pots---lots of pots -----
I notice that my underwear is breaking down. But I do have ~~~ la la la
la la --the sun in the morning ~~and the moon at night ~~~la la la
I skimmed it, it had no information on how the numbers were calculated.
You are amazing to me.
From The Fucking Article
"Our middle class is falling further and further behind in comparison to the rest of the world. We keep hearing that America is number one. Well, when it comes to middle-class wealth, we're number 27.
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.
Wealth is measured by the total sum of all our assets (homes, bank accounts, stocks, bonds etc.) minus our liabilities (outstanding loans and other debts). It the best indicator we have for individual and family prosperity. While the never-ending accumulation of wealth may be wrecking the planet, wealth also provides basic security, especially in a country like ours with such skimpy social programs. Wealth allows us to survive periods of economic turmoil. Wealth allows our children to go to college without incurring crippling debts, or to get help for the down payment on their first homes."
that help you any, dude?
Dude. THe numbers in your op are absurd.
If you want to go with them, you at the very least need to find a more credible source, one that explains these very surprising numbers before you continue trying to draw conclusions on them.
Or let this thread die, and try again with less ridiculous numbers.
I made the OP, not Bobby, and the author is "Les Leopold is the director of the Labor Institute. His most recent book is "How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour: Why Hedge Funds Get Away with Siphoning off America's Wealth "
Pardon me if I take his word over yours even if he is a pro-Labor economist.
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.
PS: if your not interested in this topic what are you doing in this thread then?
193K for Australia?
I'm calling bullshit. There is some type of statistically lying going on here.
without bothering to read the article ----I am convinced that it is based on
------lousy data. "MEDIAN WEALTH"-----I have no idea what my
"WEALTH" is-----nor would I care to put whatever such a figure might
be on a questionnaire. I do have a PC----but it is really lousy-----I have
some old beat up dishes and ----pots---lots of pots -----
I notice that my underwear is breaking down. But I do have ~~~ la la la
la la --the sun in the morning ~~and the moon at night ~~~la la la
I skimmed it, it had no information on how the numbers were calculated.
You are amazing to me.
From The Fucking Article
"Our middle class is falling further and further behind in comparison to the rest of the world. We keep hearing that America is number one. Well, when it comes to middle-class wealth, we're number 27.
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.
Wealth is measured by the total sum of all our assets (homes, bank accounts, stocks, bonds etc.) minus our liabilities (outstanding loans and other debts). It the best indicator we have for individual and family prosperity. While the never-ending accumulation of wealth may be wrecking the planet, wealth also provides basic security, especially in a country like ours with such skimpy social programs. Wealth allows us to survive periods of economic turmoil. Wealth allows our children to go to college without incurring crippling debts, or to get help for the down payment on their first homes."
that help you any, dude?
yeah, i read that. i just don't believe their results.
Dude. THe numbers in your op are absurd.
If you want to go with them, you at the very least need to find a more credible source, one that explains these very surprising numbers before you continue trying to draw conclusions on them.
Or let this thread die, and try again with less ridiculous numbers.
I made the OP, not Bobby, and the author is "Les Leopold is the director of the Labor Institute. His most recent book is "How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour: Why Hedge Funds Get Away with Siphoning off America's Wealth "
Pardon me if I take his word over yours even if he is a pro-Labor economist.
umm, no.
Ah, I hit a nerve. OK, you don't get it because of your narcissism, as well as the arrogance and ignorance and the projectionism. Your "proof" has been easily rebutted. //Projectionists extraordinaire like you always blame others for projectionism. It is not an ad hom when my comments exactly describe you. You are a bigot. Foxfyre is an extremist libertarian. PoliticalChic is a political and religious reactionary extremist. These are incontrovertible facts, not ad hominem slurs.Bobby, your arrogant and ignorant, always the mark of a bigot.
Do you have any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts?
First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
Seriously.
No: the Joos are not the fault. Get back to me when you can talk honestly having "any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts."
Oh ok, I get it. You couldn't refute any of my facts in previous threads, so you're projecting and playing the bigot card to try and get even. Naturally you still haven't read any of the article at the posted link yet. What's the matter? Too long of an article? Can't you squeeze the article onto the screen of your free 0bama Iphone?
Read the article at the link then get back to me. If all you can do is off topic whining, don't bother.Obama phone. // My retirement income is probably alone several times the value of your total net worth. Truly, Bobby, you act as if everyone else has not a clue. We saw you coming a long ways off.
Some of that is true. The insinuation that it is all the fault of the social con Christian far right is wrong.
- The wealthy dominate politics. Nowhere else in the developed world are the rich and their corporations able to buy elections with such impunity.
- Big Money dominates the media. The real story about how we're getting ripped off is hidden in a blizzard of BS that comes from all the major media outlets...brought to you by....
Ah, I hit a nerve. OK, you don't get it because of your narcissism, as well as the arrogance and ignorance and the projectionism. Your "proof" has been easily rebutted. //Projectionists extraordinaire like you always blame others for projectionism. It is not an ad hom when my comments exactly describe you. You are a bigot. Foxfyre is an extremist libertarian. PoliticalChic is a political and religious reactionary extremist. These are incontrovertible facts, not ad hominem slurs.Bobby, your arrogant and ignorant, always the mark of a bigot.
Do you have any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts?
First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
Seriously.
No: the Joos are not the fault. Get back to me when you can talk honestly having "any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts."
Oh ok, I get it. You couldn't refute any of my facts in previous threads, so you're projecting and playing the bigot card to try and get even. Naturally you still haven't read any of the article at the posted link yet. What's the matter? Too long of an article? Can't you squeeze the article onto the screen of your free 0bama Iphone?
Read the article at the link then get back to me. If all you can do is off topic whining, don't bother.
Oh look...still using argumentum ad hominems (attack the messenger). Gosh, I'm just SOOO sorry my posts offend you. (Yes, I'm being sarcastic). Retirement income, you say? Thank you for confirming my suspicions in regard to your senility.
I retired at 54.
[ I retired at 54.
Some of that is true. The insinuation that it is all the fault of the social con Christian far right is wrong.
- The wealthy dominate politics. Nowhere else in the developed world are the rich and their corporations able to buy elections with such impunity.
- Big Money dominates the media. The real story about how we're getting ripped off is hidden in a blizzard of BS that comes from all the major media outlets...brought to you by....
Insinuation? LOL
Paranoid much?
I retired at 54.
I kinda figured you retired when your IQ got up to 54, dude.
roflmao
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.Bobby, your arrogant and ignorant, always the mark of a bigot.
Do you have any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts?
First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS--Penelope----you copied the above paragraph directly from the cited article----
without noting attribution because you are very dishonest-------also---the statement itself is IDIOTIC-------the median wealth of a population----does not DEFINE A MIDDLE CLASS
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.Bobby, your arrogant and ignorant, always the mark of a bigot.
Do you have any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts?
First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS--Penelope----you copied the above paragraph directly from the cited article----
without noting attribution because you are very dishonest-------also---the statement itself is IDIOTIC-------the median wealth of a population----does not DEFINE A MIDDLE CLASS
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.Bobby, your arrogant and ignorant, always the mark of a bigot.
Do you have any actual theory for the OP that will stand up with actual facts?
First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS--Penelope----you copied the above paragraph directly from the cited article----
without noting attribution because you are very dishonest-------also---the statement itself is IDIOTIC-------the median wealth of a population----does not DEFINE A MIDDLE CLASS
Your right I should of put it in quotation, but duh, I just copied it from the article for those who do not bother to read.
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.First you project, then you use an ad hominem, then you whine to me about using actual facts?
Seriously?
Take a look at the link then get back to me...Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS--Penelope----you copied the above paragraph directly from the cited article----
without noting attribution because you are very dishonest-------also---the statement itself is IDIOTIC-------the median wealth of a population----does not DEFINE A MIDDLE CLASS
Your right I should of put it in quotation, but duh, I just copied it from the article for those who do not bother to read.
no----you presented the silly nonsensical claim as your own-----because you actually considered that idiot analysis to be "intelligent". It ain't and you ain't
The top 27 nations in median wealth (per adult).
"Big Lie: America Doesn't Have #1 Richest Middle-Class in the World: We're Ranked 27th!
America is the richest country on Earth. We have the most millionaires, the most billionaires—and an increasingly poor middle-class."
1. Australia $193,653
2. Luxembourg $153,967
3. Japan $141,410
4. Italy $123,710
5. Belgium $119,937
6. United Kingdom $115,245
7. Iceland $ 95,685
8. Singapore $ 95,542 (non-OECD)
9. Switzerland $ 87,137
10. Denmark $ 87,121
11. Austria $ 81,649
12. Canada $ 81,610
13. France $ 81,274
14. Norway $ 79,376
15. Finland $ 73,487
16. New Zealand $ 63,000
17. Netherlands $ 61,880
18. Ireland $ 60,953
19. Qatar $ 57,027 (non-OECD)
20. Spain $ 53,292
21. United Arab Emir. $ 47,998 (non-OECD)
22. Taiwan $ 45,451 (non-OECD)
23. Germany $ 42,222
24. Sweden $ 41,367
25. Cyprus $ 40,535 (non-OECD)
26. Kuwait $ 40,346 (non-OECD)
27. United States $ 38,786
Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
Can we stop pretending now that the corporate take over of our political system and the ridiculous 'free trade' has been without cost to average Americans?
The most telling comparative measurement is median wealth (per adult). It describes the amount of wealth accumulated by the person precisely in the middle of the wealth distribution—50 percent of the adult population has more wealth, while 50 percent has less. You can't get more middle than that.I am not interested in the topic-------also ---it is not clear to me that "median
wealth" is any kind of reasonable measure of anything. "median wealth"??
PS--Penelope----you copied the above paragraph directly from the cited article----
without noting attribution because you are very dishonest-------also---the statement itself is IDIOTIC-------the median wealth of a population----does not DEFINE A MIDDLE CLASS
Your right I should of put it in quotation, but duh, I just copied it from the article for those who do not bother to read.
no----you presented the silly nonsensical claim as your own-----because you actually considered that idiot analysis to be "intelligent". It ain't and you ain't
No , that was in the article you did not read. That is the definition of median income, not a definition of the middle class.
The top 27 nations in median wealth (per adult).
"Big Lie: America Doesn't Have #1 Richest Middle-Class in the World: We're Ranked 27th!
America is the richest country on Earth. We have the most millionaires, the most billionaires—and an increasingly poor middle-class."
1. Australia $193,653
2. Luxembourg $153,967
3. Japan $141,410
4. Italy $123,710
5. Belgium $119,937
6. United Kingdom $115,245
7. Iceland $ 95,685
8. Singapore $ 95,542 (non-OECD)
9. Switzerland $ 87,137
10. Denmark $ 87,121
11. Austria $ 81,649
12. Canada $ 81,610
13. France $ 81,274
14. Norway $ 79,376
15. Finland $ 73,487
16. New Zealand $ 63,000
17. Netherlands $ 61,880
18. Ireland $ 60,953
19. Qatar $ 57,027 (non-OECD)
20. Spain $ 53,292
21. United Arab Emir. $ 47,998 (non-OECD)
22. Taiwan $ 45,451 (non-OECD)
23. Germany $ 42,222
24. Sweden $ 41,367
25. Cyprus $ 40,535 (non-OECD)
26. Kuwait $ 40,346 (non-OECD)
27. United States $ 38,786
Big Lie America Doesn t Have 1 Richest Middle-Class in the World We re Ranked 27th Alternet
Can we stop pretending now that the corporate take over of our political system and the ridiculous 'free trade' has been without cost to average Americans?
If you rank our being a "super power" by the incomes of the middle class, we are no longer at or near the top.
If you look at the number of millionaires (and billionaires), our military, and some other criteria, we are still in the top few nations.
