Sanders: Universal Healthcare and Free College Aren’t Radical Ideas, They Are ‘Human Rights’

[Arizona Willie]

Bernie is correct.

Then Bernie needs to personally finance it with his own money.

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He will ... just like you right wingers will pay more taxes to pay for the two wars you started == and didn't finish.

Or like you paid for the Medicare Prescription Benefit Bush started too.

You put it all on the nation's credit card because you REFUSE to pay any taxes.

REPUBLICANS ARE DEADBEATS.

It's amazing how everyone claims everyone else isn't paying taxes.

How much in taxes have you paid?

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Not EVERYONE --- ONLY REPUBLICANS claim half the country pays no taxes. They ignore the sales and property and rental taxes that poor people pay. They only want to talk about Fed Income Tax which the government has decided that poor people shouldn't have to pay Fed Income tax.

Most of the people who qualify for no Fed Tax are either handicapped and / or work at minimum wage jobs and make less than $20K / year. But the heartless bastards who don't want to pay any taxes want people who are on verge of starvation to pay Fed Income Tax.

Republican voters always think everyone is out to fuck them and steal from them.

No one works for their money --- except THEM ( and they aren't too damn sure about other Republicans ).

Everyone is trying to steal from them.

Taxes are theft ( in their view ).

They don't want to pay for ANYTHING.

REPUBLICANS ARE DEADBEATS WHO REFUSE TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

Taxes ARE theft. It is. Only in leftard land, can you take money from someone who rightfully earned it, and claim that's not stealing. If someone came and stole money from your wallet directly, you'd grasp what theft is pretty quick. But when it's some other person's wallet... suddenly you think that's morally right.

First, I have never heard a Republican, of any kind, ever say that poor people no taxes ever.

They say that they do not pay INCOME taxes, which is 100% true.

But if you want to count all taxes, property, sales, excise, Social Security, Medicare, State and Local taxes..... yes poor people pay taxes. You include those taxes with how much the rich pay income tax.... and they pay 100 times as much in taxes as the poor.... COMBINED.

No matter how you cut it, no matter what taxes you include, or do not include, the rich pay a hundred times as much in taxes as the poor ever do.

But as with all spoiled brat mentalities.... it's never enough. No matter what you get, no matter what they pay, no matter how many freebies are handed out, you always demand more, and more, and more.... which is why the rich end up packing up their stuff and moving out. Leaving you unemployed and impoverished. It's happened in every country that it's been tried. The soviet union at the end, was in starvation. People were eating each other.

That's your legacy. And that's your future if you succeed.

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.

Most sane people have long agreed that progressive taxation is the only FAIR way to do things.

You're a dinosaur asshole who thinks he should keep every penny for himself .. you're the kind of person that wouldn't give their grandmother 50 cents.

Enjoy your life of parsimony.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

More spending, more debt, more programs and more taxes !!!!!

For the people comrades !!!!!!!

 

[the_human_being]

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Bernie is correct.

Then Bernie needs to personally finance it with his own money.

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He will ... just like you right wingers will pay more taxes to pay for the two wars you started == and didn't finish.

Or like you paid for the Medicare Prescription Benefit Bush started too.

You put it all on the nation's credit card because you REFUSE to pay any taxes.

REPUBLICANS ARE DEADBEATS.

It's amazing how everyone claims everyone else isn't paying taxes.

How much in taxes have you paid?

I made the claim that almost half don't pay INCOME taxes. I realize those same people pay other taxes, the ones Liberals think excuses them from paying income taxes.

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No, the Federal Government says they should not have to pay taxes because they are too poor to afford to pay taxes.

The majority of those people make less than $20K / year and are on the verge of starvation. Many of them are handicapped. Most of them actually work but don't make a decent wage thanks to the Republican owners of the businesses they work for.

When the Income Tax was first started --- only property owners ( the wealthy of the day ) paid taxes. Even then those ultra conservative people realized that the very poor should not be taxed.

It's a moral question which is why Republicans don't understand the principle why the very poor should not be taxed out of their last dollar.

Republicans HAVE no morals.

Well why don't you come here to Cleveland and see what taxes the Democrats have leveled on everybody.

Here you pay an 8 cents per dollar tax on anything you buy. The rich pay that tax, the middle-class pay that tax, and the poor pay that tax.

Oh, but those poor people don't have enough to pay income tax!!! Well, DumBama didn't even think about that when he put a substantial sin tax on tobacco--most of the users are the poor. He sure as hell didn't think of that when he closed down coal fired power plants and forced the remaining open ones to invest millions of dollars in clean technology. Guess who pays for that?

It seems the Democrats don't consider our poor when it's their policies they want to put into play, but income tax that would help the entire country? They're too poor for that.

 

[Andylusion]

We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend. If the poor have no money to spend, goods stay on the shelves and manufacturers slow production and lay off workers, Now workers are poor and they stop buying and so it goes. The rich spend the same amount but it is not enough to keep the factories rolling or the country prosperous.

We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend.

If we tax you an extra $10,000 to give money to people to buy $10,000 worth of your production, we're saved?

You gotta love ignorant people like Regent, that is proven wrong a million times, but keeps repeating it, over and over and over....

"We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend. If the poor have no money to spend, goods stay on the shelves and manufacturers slow production and lay off workers, Now workers are poor and they stop buying and so it goes."

Really? Is that so Regent?

It all makes sense now.... This explains why Leftards love Bush so much. Bush signed the law that increased the minimum wage in 2007, 2008 and 2009, nearly 40% increase from 5.25 to 7.25 in 3 years.

This of course gave poor people money to spend... which resulted in goods being bought off the shelf.... which resulted in manufacturing having booming production.... and hire more workers.... and so it goes.... right?

Right.....? Isn't that EXACTLY what happened? This is why America is the economic Utopia that it is today..... RIGHT??!? Morons. Ok Regent, give us your endless excuses why your mindless theory is perfect and true, but just didn't work the last decade.

Might as well follow in the foot steps of every socialist, and give us your people to blame for why your Utopian plan didn't work.... and never has.

 

[Andylusion]

Then Bernie needs to personally finance it with his own money.

==========

He will ... just like you right wingers will pay more taxes to pay for the two wars you started == and didn't finish.

Or like you paid for the Medicare Prescription Benefit Bush started too.

You put it all on the nation's credit card because you REFUSE to pay any taxes.

REPUBLICANS ARE DEADBEATS.

It's amazing how everyone claims everyone else isn't paying taxes.

How much in taxes have you paid?

===========

Not EVERYONE --- ONLY REPUBLICANS claim half the country pays no taxes. They ignore the sales and property and rental taxes that poor people pay. They only want to talk about Fed Income Tax which the government has decided that poor people shouldn't have to pay Fed Income tax.

Most of the people who qualify for no Fed Tax are either handicapped and / or work at minimum wage jobs and make less than $20K / year. But the heartless bastards who don't want to pay any taxes want people who are on verge of starvation to pay Fed Income Tax.

Republican voters always think everyone is out to fuck them and steal from them.

No one works for their money --- except THEM ( and they aren't too damn sure about other Republicans ).

Everyone is trying to steal from them.

Taxes are theft ( in their view ).

They don't want to pay for ANYTHING.

REPUBLICANS ARE DEADBEATS WHO REFUSE TO PAY THEIR BILLS.

Taxes ARE theft. It is. Only in leftard land, can you take money from someone who rightfully earned it, and claim that's not stealing. If someone came and stole money from your wallet directly, you'd grasp what theft is pretty quick. But when it's some other person's wallet... suddenly you think that's morally right.

First, I have never heard a Republican, of any kind, ever say that poor people no taxes ever.

They say that they do not pay INCOME taxes, which is 100% true.

But if you want to count all taxes, property, sales, excise, Social Security, Medicare, State and Local taxes..... yes poor people pay taxes. You include those taxes with how much the rich pay income tax.... and they pay 100 times as much in taxes as the poor.... COMBINED.

No matter how you cut it, no matter what taxes you include, or do not include, the rich pay a hundred times as much in taxes as the poor ever do.

But as with all spoiled brat mentalities.... it's never enough. No matter what you get, no matter what they pay, no matter how many freebies are handed out, you always demand more, and more, and more.... which is why the rich end up packing up their stuff and moving out. Leaving you unemployed and impoverished. It's happened in every country that it's been tried. The soviet union at the end, was in starvation. People were eating each other.

That's your legacy. And that's your future if you succeed.

==========

The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.

Most sane people have long agreed that progressive taxation is the only FAIR way to do things.

You're a dinosaur asshole who thinks he should keep every penny for himself .. you're the kind of person that wouldn't give their grandmother 50 cents.

Enjoy your life of parsimony.

List the things rich get from SOCIETY, that a poor person does not?

Most sane people.... Prove it. Prove most sane people have all agreed to a progressive tax.
You've done a sanity check on every person who either supports are opposes a progressive tax?

Funny because all the countries that pioneered a progressive system, and have reaped the destruction it causes, now all have flat tax. Russia. Estonia. Dozens of others. They did it your "sane" way, and it ruined their countries. Now they have a flat tax.

You people just make up whatever crap you can. Speak out of your butt, and fart it on the forums.

"Most people who support a progressive tax, are pimple faced teenagers, whose parents let them get on the internet unsupervised".

My statement has as much validity as yours. Possibly even more accurate than yours.

 

[Arizona Willie]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
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What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

 

[regent]

We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend. If the poor have no money to spend, goods stay on the shelves and manufacturers slow production and lay off workers, Now workers are poor and they stop buying and so it goes. The rich spend the same amount but it is not enough to keep the factories rolling or the country prosperous.

We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend.

If we tax you an extra $10,000 to give money to people to buy $10,000 worth of your production, we're saved?

You gotta love ignorant people like Regent, that is proven wrong a million times, but keeps repeating it, over and over and over....

"We discovered one of the causes of depressions is that people that spend the money need money to spend. If the poor have no money to spend, goods stay on the shelves and manufacturers slow production and lay off workers, Now workers are poor and they stop buying and so it goes."

Really? Is that so Regent?

It all makes sense now.... This explains why Leftards love Bush so much. Bush signed the law that increased the minimum wage in 2007, 2008 and 2009, nearly 40% increase from 5.25 to 7.25 in 3 years.

This of course gave poor people money to spend... which resulted in goods being bought off the shelf.... which resulted in manufacturing having booming production.... and hire more workers.... and so it goes.... right?

Right.....? Isn't that EXACTLY what happened? This is why America is the economic Utopia that it is today..... RIGHT??!? Morons. Ok Regent, give us your endless excuses why your mindless theory is perfect and true, but just didn't work the last decade.

Might as well follow in the foot steps of every socialist, and give us your people to blame for why your Utopian plan didn't work.... and never has.

Bush was rated fifth worst president in American history, but in the economics of his administration even lower than that. In the economics of his administration Bush was rated not fifth from the bottom, but second from the bottom.

 

[the_human_being]

 

[the_human_being]

 

[the_human_being]

 

[Cecilie1200]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
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What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

Rich people get mansions and estates and yachts and pensions from society? Could have sworn they either bought them themselves or, in the case of pensions, got them as compensation for work.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, Sanders is a bit of a delusional wingnut. 90%? Come on man! He's done.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
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What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

You claimed they got extra things "from society".
Your list looks like things they bought for themselves.
Try again?

 

[dblack]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
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What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

Rich people get mansions and estates and yachts and pensions from society? Could have sworn they either bought them themselves or, in the case of pensions, got them as compensation for work.

I'm not sure I understand the semantic dispute here. Isn't being compensated for work getting something from society? If not, what would you characterize as something one "gets" from society?

 

[Arizona Willie]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
============

What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

Rich people get mansions and estates and yachts and pensions from society? Could have sworn they either bought them themselves or, in the case of pensions, got them as compensation for work.

I'm not sure I understand the semantic dispute here. Isn't being compensated for work getting something from society? If not, what would you characterize as something one "gets" from society?

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These assholes know quite well that the rich receive much more FROM society because of their wealth and position but they wouldn't say " shit " if they had a mouthful.

The TRUTH holds no interest for them.

They are REPUBLICANS AND THEY DON'T NEED NO DAMN TRUTH.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

You think that it's right that I made more money last year than you'll make in your entire life? And, I paid less percentage of my income in federal tax than you did too!

You made minimum wage as a stock boy at a local super market, and you're lucky a person as lowly as you can even land a job.

 

[dblack]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
============

What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

Rich people get mansions and estates and yachts and pensions from society? Could have sworn they either bought them themselves or, in the case of pensions, got them as compensation for work.

I'm not sure I understand the semantic dispute here. Isn't being compensated for work getting something from society? If not, what would you characterize as something one "gets" from society?

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These assholes know quite well that the rich receive much more FROM society because of their wealth and position but they wouldn't say " shit " if they had a mouthful.

The TRUTH holds no interest for them.

They are REPUBLICANS AND THEY DON'T NEED NO DAMN TRUTH.

Of course the rich get more from society. That's the point of the free market. As a consumers, we invest in the products and services we most value - ie we give more to those who are doing what we like.

I suppose the dispute centers on using that as a rationale for taxing them more, and I don't see how that holds water. As long as society is giving them more voluntarily, why should there be a 'surcharge' on it?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

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The rich RECEIVE much more from society than the poor or middle classes therefore they OWE more TO society.
============

What do the rich receive from Society that the poor do not?

Mansions / gated estates / yachts / Golden Parachute pensions / police protection ( personal ) / caviar / champagne / personal chefs to make out their menu and do the shopping and cooking / personal shoppers who go buy stuff for them / that's just a few things for starters ... I'm sure I and the other people with brains on here could go on for hours about what the rich receive that the poor don't.

BUT YOU DON'T REALLY GIVE A DAMN ANYWAY.

You are out for yourself and don't give a crap about anyone else.

The Foxbots have brain washed you that everyone is trying to fuck you and you aren't getting your fair share and you don't even want to open your eyes and look for the truth.

I am so glad you aren't a member of my family and I feel so sorry for yours.

Rich people get mansions and estates and yachts and pensions from society? Could have sworn they either bought them themselves or, in the case of pensions, got them as compensation for work.

I'm not sure I understand the semantic dispute here. Isn't being compensated for work getting something from society? If not, what would you characterize as something one "gets" from society?

======

These assholes know quite well that the rich receive much more FROM society because of their wealth and position but they wouldn't say " shit " if they had a mouthful.

The TRUTH holds no interest for them.

They are REPUBLICANS AND THEY DON'T NEED NO DAMN TRUTH.

Not this stupid shit again.....

 

[the_human_being]