Scotland Was Allowed To Vote On Secession. Why Can't The American States?

[bripat9643]

Who won the war in Vietnam?

Ancient history compared to what the US military is capable of now, especially once the kid gloves are off. Go over and take a look at the hellhole Syria has turned into. Or, if you want to keep looking at Vietnam take a look at the sheer number of casualties the Vietnamese took.

A fair number of folks here think that Obama is some bloodthirsty dictator who would happily spill the blood of patriots to hold together the Union. Let's say that's true. None of the secession movements or militias would last the month up against what the Feds have available.

Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.

Hey dumb fuck, you think other Americans are going to stand by and watch a bunch of fruitloops destroy the nation for their insane ideologies? Hell no, the military and police would have plenty of help in eridicating you idiots.

Yeah, the puppet regime in Iraq sure is having good luck with that.

Asymmetrical warfare, baby.

 

[Old Rocks]

This was all settled at Apomatox Court House. You lost, and this is One Nation. Try such idiocy again, and you may find yourself fighting the sane citizens of this nation even before the Police and Military step in.

My great grandfather was in the 11th Illinois Infantry, Fort Donaldson and Shiloh, all the way to New Orleans. He fought for the preservation of the Union, I am quite willing to do the same, just as the majority of our citizens would be.

 

[Old Rocks]

Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.

 

[bripat9643]

This was all settled at Apomatox Court House. You lost, and this is One Nation. Try such idiocy again, and you may find yourself fighting the sane citizens of this nation even before the Police and Military step in.

My great grandfather was in the 11th Illinois Infantry, Fort Donaldson and Shiloh, all the way to New Orleans. He fought for the preservation of the Union, I am quite willing to do the same, just as the majority of our citizens would be.

We'll mark you down as another leftwing Nazi asshole who thinks mass slaughter is the way civilized people settle disputes.

Your grandfather was a goose stepping tool who fought so Lincoln could impose his fascist agenda on people who wanted no part of it. "Preserving the union" is the kind of excuse abusive husbands give for beating their wives. It the other party wants no part of "the union," then forcing them to remain in it is nothing short of slavery.

 

[MaxGrit]

Who won the war in Vietnam?

Ancient history compared to what the US military is capable of now, especially once the kid gloves are off. Go over and take a look at the hellhole Syria has turned into. Or, if you want to keep looking at Vietnam take a look at the sheer number of casualties the Vietnamese took.

A fair number of folks here think that Obama is some bloodthirsty dictator who would happily spill the blood of patriots to hold together the Union. Let's say that's true. None of the secession movements or militias would last the month up against what the Feds have available.

Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.

Hey dumb fuck, you think other Americans are going to stand by and watch a bunch of fruitloops destroy the nation for their insane ideologies? Hell no, the military and police would have plenty of help in eridicating you idiots.

Calm down. I am with you and President Lincoln.

 

[bripat9643]

Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.

Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.

It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.

 

[MaxGrit]

I sure that makes perfect sense to a small petulant child.

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

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If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.

In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.

Go fuck yourself.

You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.

Die or Serve.

Your choice.

 

[MaxGrit]

This was all settled at Apomatox Court House. You lost, and this is One Nation. Try such idiocy again, and you may find yourself fighting the sane citizens of this nation even before the Police and Military step in.

My great grandfather was in the 11th Illinois Infantry, Fort Donaldson and Shiloh, all the way to New Orleans. He fought for the preservation of the Union, I am quite willing to do the same, just as the majority of our citizens would be.

We'll mark you down as another leftwing Nazi asshole who thinks mass slaughter is the way civilized people settle disputes.

Your grandfather was a goose stepping tool who fought so Lincoln could impose his fascist agenda on people who wanted no part of it. "Preserving the union" is the kind of excuse abusive husbands give for beating their wives. It the other party wants no part of "the union," then forcing them to remain in it is nothing short of slavery.

Lol. Civilized people? Lmao.

The Romans said the same thing as well.

 

[MaxGrit]

Who won the war in Vietnam?

Ancient history compared to what the US military is capable of now, especially once the kid gloves are off. Go over and take a look at the hellhole Syria has turned into. Or, if you want to keep looking at Vietnam take a look at the sheer number of casualties the Vietnamese took.

A fair number of folks here think that Obama is some bloodthirsty dictator who would happily spill the blood of patriots to hold together the Union. Let's say that's true. None of the secession movements or militias would last the month up against what the Feds have available.

Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.

Hey dumb fuck, you think other Americans are going to stand by and watch a bunch of fruitloops destroy the nation for their insane ideologies? Hell no, the military and police would have plenty of help in eridicating you idiots.

Yeah, the puppet regime in Iraq sure is having good luck with that.

Asymmetrical warfare, baby.

That depends on your enemy letting you live. Good luck with your asymmetrical warfare against an enemy like ISIL.

 

[Old Rocks]

Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.

Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.

It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.

LOL Just like your American Spring. You got out maybe 30 people. On a real issue, climate change, we got out nearly 400,000 people. And that is about the ratio you would see in your ridicoulous 'rebelion'. Mortal terror from someone like you? Shed some of those 240 lbs from your 5'4" frame. Get your pimply face out of Grandma's basement, and get a job. Your silly threats are funny.

 

[Old Rocks]

Who won the war in Vietnam?

Ancient history compared to what the US military is capable of now, especially once the kid gloves are off. Go over and take a look at the hellhole Syria has turned into. Or, if you want to keep looking at Vietnam take a look at the sheer number of casualties the Vietnamese took.

A fair number of folks here think that Obama is some bloodthirsty dictator who would happily spill the blood of patriots to hold together the Union. Let's say that's true. None of the secession movements or militias would last the month up against what the Feds have available.

Yep, all it takes to win are some nukes to the major cities, assuming the military didn't split.

Hey dumb fuck, you think other Americans are going to stand by and watch a bunch of fruitloops destroy the nation for their insane ideologies? Hell no, the military and police would have plenty of help in eridicating you idiots.

Yeah, the puppet regime in Iraq sure is having good luck with that.

Asymmetrical warfare, baby.

That depends on your enemy letting you live. Good luck with your asymmetrical warfare against an enemy like ISIL.

Apologies, I had not read the prior posts, only that one I commented on. And it sounded just are reasonable as most the 'Conservatives' posted.

But we are using asymetrical warfare against ISIS. We are using a method of war where they cannot hit us back in any capacity that will damage us. They do not have an airforce, and we have no forces on the ground. The murder of individual civilians only serves to alienate even more people of all nations. The murder and rape of the people they invade makes even more angry. They are losing, and will soon be a footnote in history.

 

[bripat9643]

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

\
If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.

In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.

Go fuck yourself.

You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.

Die or Serve.

Your choice.

That's the kind of "choice" that liberals and Nazis always have to offer.

 

[Discombobulated]

I sure that makes perfect sense to a small petulant child.

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

\
If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.

In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.

Go fuck yourself.

You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.

Go fuck yourself........that's pretty much what the Confederacy said at the time. People usually get defensive like that when they claim their freedom and individual rights for the purpose of oppressing others.

 

[Discombobulated]

Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.

Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.

It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.

I understand exactly how you feel. I would take great pleasure in personally shooting secessionist traitors, watching them plead for their miserable lives while they piss their pants in terror. That sounds like a good day to me.

 

[Politico]

I can't imagine how an issue like gay marriage even begins to compare with the foundation of a confederation of states as a republic.

Make up your mind. Either it has to be explicitly permitted or it doesn't. You want to pick and choose.

I sure that makes perfect sense to a small petulant child.

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

Yes there are. Pick up a book.

 

[bripat9643]

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

\
If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.

In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.

Go fuck yourself.

You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.

Go fuck yourself........that's pretty much what the Confederacy said at the time. People usually get defensive like that when they claim their freedom and individual rights for the purpose of oppressing others.

Lincoln and the Yankee carpet baggers are the ones who did all the oppressing. They burned down and destroyed private property. They looted, raped and pillaged. They killed 50,000 civilians. In the North Lincoln and his thugs arrested and even executed people without a trial. He shut down 300 news papers. He arrested the entire state legislature of Maryland. He instituted involuntary servitude (the draft).

Yeah, there's a guy who believes in freedom and individual rights!

 

[bripat9643]

Make up your mind. Either it has to be explicitly permitted or it doesn't. You want to pick and choose.

I sure that makes perfect sense to a small petulant child.

Translation: you don't want your rule applied to stuff you don't want it applied to. You fully realize your claims are totally irrational, so you hurl ad hominems at anyone who points that out.

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

Yes there are. Pick up a book.

If there were, you would be able to post them.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[bripat9643]

Works both ways. The President is practicing asymmetrical warfare against ISIS right now. He is fighting them in ways that gives them little wiggle room. And were idiots like you to try a guerrilla war here in the US, there are many of us that would aid in taking you out. You cannot hide in a population that is largely hostile to you.

Your assumption that the population would be "largely hostile" isn't true, and I seriously doubt the president is going to launch airstrikes against American cities. You can't "take anyone out" if you don't know who they are. Meanwhile, the anti-secession politicians will be getting slaughtered.

It may never happen, but it's fun to think about fascist assholes like you scurrying about in mortal terror all day.

I understand exactly how you feel. I would take great pleasure in personally shooting secessionist traitors, watching them plead for their miserable lives while they piss their pants in terror. That sounds like a good day to me.

The difference is you delight at inflicting harm and suffering on innocent people who want nothing more than to be left alone.

That is so beautifully liberal!

 

[Youch]

Scotland Was Allowed To Vote On Secession. Why Can't The American States?

The socialist movement in Scotland lost when they realized they'd have to pay for their own problems and solutions. Get over it.

 

[MaxGrit]

Didn't see this pissing match. It's not a matter of comparing issues or the importance of them. It is whether they have been addressed. Secession rules are clear and have been ruled on by the Supreme Court. Gay marriage has not...which is derp...why the request thay make a ruling on it has been brought forth.

There are no secession rules printed anywhere. The Supreme Court that ruled on the issue was populated by a gang of Lincoln appointed hacks. What of the chances that they handed down an objective disinterested ruling? They are about the same as the chance of Harry Reid telling the truth, I imagine.

\
If there are no rules then there would have to be legal agreements made between the two parties. Armed rebellion is simply treason.

In other words the Southern states would have to get Lincoln to "agree" to let them secede - something he had no intention of doing.

Go fuck yourself.

You don't make a "legal agreement" with someone who's holding a gun to your head.

Die or Serve.

Your choice.

That's the kind of "choice" that liberals and Nazis always have to offer.

That's the only choice you can make in the situation when you have a gun held to your head.

At least you get to choose. Most of the time, your enemy choose for you to die.