BluesLegend
Diamond Member
^^^ this!If it weren't for DC becoming irredeemably corrupt, secession wouldn't be necessary.
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^^^ this!If it weren't for DC becoming irredeemably corrupt, secession wouldn't be necessary.
It's just sad to see this happen, for it even to get this far. At a fundamental level, politics can be about problem-solving. You recognize a problem and work together to solve it. This is basic shit, and it's a goddamn critical skill.
We now have a large segment of the population that lacks that skill, because it has been told it has to "fight", and that other Americans are not co-collaborators, but rather are "evil" and the "enemy" with whom they are at "war".
Our political disagreements should be our strength, but they require communication and collaboration if we want to improve anything. Taking your toys and running away? This conversation shouldn't even be happening.
I prefer getting adults to drop the ego, work together, and problem-solve.No need to fight. The federal govt is corrupt and tyrannical. It's just time for states to secede away from that horror show. It's incumbent upon a society to throw away such tyranny and strive for justice and a govt that works for the people.
I'd list only California and Alaska as having the capability of making it on their own.
I believe that it's time to create a legal mechanism in the constitution
I'd list only California and Alaska as having the capability of making it on their own.
Nothing's stopping you secessionists from picking up and moving somewhere more to your liking.
Actually no. When the supreme court ruled that states cannot secede. They stated that states cannot secede on their own without approval, But That they could secede With the approval of the other states.I'm pretty sure that is the requirement since there is no mechanism in the Constitution today.
I would like to point out that seccession is technically legal. The supreme court ruled that states cannot secede on their own, but the states can approve a state's secession.
My idea is to simply create a process and mandatory requirements for this to happen.
MicIdeally, yes. But we've had sixty years of the GOP's Southern Strategy preaching hate to the right-wingers, and forty years with the Republicans and moderate Democrats trying to make Reaganomics appear viable. But Reaganomics has always been snake oil that's gradually killing off the middle class and creating more and more poverty. Reagan's promised trickledown just ain't happening and hasn't for over forty years.
Keeping the right and left at each other's throats has been extremely profitable for the billionaire class and Big Business. Tax cuts, subsidies, forgivable loans and other federal giveaways to the fat cats have run this country into more than thirty trillion dollars of debt, with no end in sight.
Conservatives claim to abhor socialism, but they have no qualms with the "wealthfare" practiced in our predatory capitalist system. The more federal dollars raked in by the billionaires, the better.
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