Seattle under siege as protesters take over City Hall.

I do agree with one of your points. The autonomous zone will go away soon. The interest in George Floyd is already fading as the news media is finding more juicy stories plus the protesters are beginning to tire. The free movies aren't very good, the good music is disappearing and there's less free food. The police are already entering the area for various reason and locals are complaining about police response time with the station being closed.
"Warlord" Raz should be removed in handcuffs as soon as possible. His scam has been a miserable joke.
 
I do agree with one of your points. The autonomous zone will go away soon. The interest in George Floyd is already fading as the news media is finding more juicy stories plus the protesters are beginning to tire. The free movies aren't very good, the good music is disappearing and there's less free food. The police are already entering the area for various reason and locals are complaining about police response time with the station being closed.
"Warlord" Raz should be removed in handcuffs as soon as possible. His scam has been a miserable joke.
Warlord Raz has sent forces to capture another city block giving the Kingdom of chaz seven square blocks.
 
In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform and local merchants that provide sandwiches and coffee. The homeless in the area are panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems are responding to emergencies. So far it has been remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone was set up and there has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.

Yesterday the city saw it's largest peaceful protest march. About 60,000 people marched in a silent parade about 2 miles long in the rain.

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In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
 
In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
Funny. You just walk in and out. Unless you're wearing a police uniform, no one will notice. There are people that watch entrances although I didn't see any when I was there a few days ago. Capitol Hill is one of the densest populated areas of the city with 35,000 people living in an area of less than 2 square miles. Thousands of people enter the zone in the afternoon and evening to enjoy the music, movies, and speakers. There is free food co-op set up where people drop off and pick up food.
 
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In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
Funny. You just walk in and out. Unless you're wearing a police uniform, no one will notice. There are people that watch entrances although I didn't see any when I was there a few days ago. Capitol Hill is one of the densest populated areas of the city with 35,000 people living in an area of less than 2 square miles. Thousands of people enter the zone in the afternoon and evening to enjoy the music, movies, and speakers. There is free food co-op set up where people drop off and pick up food.
So then it’s illegal immigrants who walk out.
And US citizens subsidize yet another foreign country. Great.
 
In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
Funny. You just walk in and out. Unless you're wearing a police uniform, no one will notice. There are people that watch entrances although I didn't see any when I was there a few days ago. Capitol Hill is one of the densest populated areas of the city with 35,000 people living in an area of less than 2 square miles. Thousands of people enter the zone in the afternoon and evening to enjoy the music, movies, and speakers. There is free food co-op set up where people drop off and pick up food.
So then it’s illegal immigrants who walk out.
And US citizens subsidize yet another foreign country. Great.
I didn't write anything about illegal immigrants. Sounds like you're trying to derail this thread.
 
Yesterday the city saw it's largest peaceful protest march. About 60,000 people marched in a silent parade about 2 miles long in the rain.
More pointless virtue signaling writ large. And at this point what does yet another protest march accomplish except to give these leftist moss-backs something to do so they can feel good about themselves once again?

And once more the people that didn't want grandma killed by conservatives ignoring social distancing
protocol seem to be ignoring it themselves, if you can believe your eyes and the picture of the march.

This isn't the Seattle of my family I remember and visited so often. It's a dystopic hell where concentrated hubris, stupidity and wealth has made the people there immune to real acts of humanity (as their homeless problems show). The California invasion was real and deadly for Washington.

It's time to get East of the Cascade mountains and then sit back and pray for the Cascadia Subduction to go to work.
 


Close the city and Tell the people that Something's coming to call
Death and darkness are rushing forward to take a bite from the wall

You've nothing to say
They're breaking away
If you listen to fools
The mob rules

The Mob Rules by Black Sabbath
 
In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
Funny. You just walk in and out. Unless you're wearing a police uniform, no one will notice. There are people that watch entrances although I didn't see any when I was there a few days ago. Capitol Hill is one of the densest populated areas of the city with 35,000 people living in an area of less than 2 square miles. Thousands of people enter the zone in the afternoon and evening to enjoy the music, movies, and speakers. There is free food co-op set up where people drop off and pick up food.
So then it’s illegal immigrants who walk out.
And US citizens subsidize yet another foreign country. Great.
I didn't write anything about illegal immigrants. Sounds like you're trying to derail this thread.
You said people come and go, so without a visa you’re looking at illegal aliens. Logic.
 
In one of the very first protests, trouble broke out and there was no police presence. The next night the police were there in numbers before anything started dressed for a battle with tear gas, batons. and shields. The result was about a number protesters and police injured in a riot and over 60 stores looted and damaged. The police made the situation worse not better.
By your "logic" police should just withdraw completely and cede the entire city to the revolutionaries.
Can you find any flaws at all in your thinking?

Did you read the part about people being held hostage? Just curious.
A bit of an exaggeration. It's not the whole city. It's basically about two blocks. Before the police moved out it was a daily riot attracting criminals and outside exaggerators. Now it's peacefully. What has emerged is an experiment in life without the police. part street festival, part commune. Hundreds have gathered to hear speeches, poetry and music. On Tuesday night, dozens of people sat in the middle of an intersection to watch “13th,” the Ava DuVernay film about the criminal justice system’s impact on African-Americans. On Wednesday, children made chalk drawings in the street.

If this little experiment works, it may well change the way policing is done in this country. Having a police force that is there to actually protect and serve may be more appropriate than an army of modern day storm troopers.
Do you think the people who live there are enjoying the peacefulness? They are required to pay tribute to King Raz. Businesses adjacent to chaz have to pay extortion.

It's a cop free zone. Let's see how that keeps working.
That is not true. I've been in the zone and have a friend that lives in Capitol Hill about two blocks from the police station. People pass the hat to collect money for musicians and bands that perform. The homeless in area panhandling but that's nothing new. It's also not true that the area is cop free. Police enter the police station for various reasons and are not harassed. Police, fire, and ems respond to emergencies. So far it has remarkable peaceful. Five days ago the autonomous zone has set and their has been no rioting, no serious injuries, or killings.

The people that live in the zone are concerned that violence will erupt because there are so many people on streets. However, the biggest complain of residents seems to be parking and traffic.
How did you attain a visa?
Funny. You just walk in and out. Unless you're wearing a police uniform, no one will notice. There are people that watch entrances although I didn't see any when I was there a few days ago. Capitol Hill is one of the densest populated areas of the city with 35,000 people living in an area of less than 2 square miles. Thousands of people enter the zone in the afternoon and evening to enjoy the music, movies, and speakers. There is free food co-op set up where people drop off and pick up food.

You seem hung up on the no-violence-no-looting thing as if that is supposed to justify this. It does not. These people are breaking the law and what's more, they seem to think the law does not apply to them because of their righteous outrage. Well, as much as they are outraged at Floyd's death, I and others like me are equally outraged by their actions.

The answer to justice for Floyd's death is not flouting the justice system and hamstringing law enforcement. This entire exercise is snowflake hypocritical bullshit.
 
Yesterday the city saw it's largest peaceful protest march. About 60,000 people marched in a silent parade about 2 miles long in the rain.
More pointless virtue signaling writ large. And at this point what does yet another protest march accomplish except to give these leftist moss-backs something to do so they can feel good about themselves once again?

And once more the people that didn't want grandma killed by conservatives ignoring social distancing
protocol seem to be ignoring it themselves, if you can believe your eyes and the picture of the march.

This isn't the Seattle of my family I remember and visited so often. It's a dystopic hell where concentrated hubris, stupidity and wealth has made the people there immune to real acts of humanity (as their homeless problems show). The California invasion was real and deadly for Washington.

It's time to get East of the Cascade mountains and then sit back and pray for the Cascadia Subduction to go to work.
Protest marches serve two purpose. Protesting is a healthy, legal, time worn American excise in freedom of speech. People that march feel they are doing their part to stop the war, change our financial system, gain more equal treatment for women, or eliminates police violence. By protesting, a person becomes a part of a movement rather than a bystander. They are more likely to attend meeting, support candidates, and vote to bring about changes. Secondly, organizing protests requires a lot of time and effort, not to mention raising money for the cause. The protests keeps these people busy so they are not planning on blowing up federal buildings and taking hostages and doing all kinds of nasty things to get attention.

Looking back at protest marches, it becomes pretty obvious that they do not bring about changes in policy, at least not over the short term. However, there is evidence that protest marches do change hearts and minds and that over time can lead to significant social changes. It took the women's suffrage movement 60 years of protests before they convinced men to give them the right to vote.
 
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I don't believe in militarizing law enforcers. But they should allow the public to be able to arm themselves. That is how it has been done in the past. That the law enforcement agencies used to deputized the public to assist them during a manhunt and or uses them for a search party to help find a missing person.
But if the public was armed. There would not be any reason to militarized these police agencies. And plus it will prevent taxes from increasing.
But someone needs to create a sleeping gas bomb that will be ab;e to put a entire crowd to sleep. And then the police can strip these protesters naked while they are knocked out. And then haul them away to Mexico to let the drug cartels to do what they want with them.






 
I don't believe in militarizing law enforcers. But they should allow the public to be able to arm themselves. That is how it has been done in the past. That the law enforcement agencies used to deputized the public to assist them during a manhunt and or uses them for a search party to help find a missing person.
But if the public was armed. There would not be any reason to militarized these police agencies. And plus it will prevent taxes from increasing.
But someone needs to create a sleeping gas bomb that will be ab;e to put a entire crowd to sleep. And then the police can strip these protesters naked while they are knocked out. And then haul them away to Mexico to let the drug cartels to do what they want with them.







I don't believing arming the public and abolishing the police as many have suggested would accomplish anything other than creating a demand for a totalitarian state to restore order. However, the public is pretty well armed now with 270 million guns in 46% of the households.
 
I don't believing arming the public and abolishing the police as many have suggested would accomplish anything other than creating a demand for a totalitarian state to restore order.
That would be nirvana for the anarchists

but then they would disarm the citizens also so that only the criminals have guns
 

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