Mikeoxenormous
Diamond Member
That brings up a very good point. So you have this big black guy taking your head and pounding it on the concrete thinking you are gay and he is going to kill you, should you draw your weapon and kill him point blank, or think about "do you have the right to defend yourself?"Thats only because you believe in smoky, wispy, hard to hold things like rights as if someone cant come and take them away from you instantly by putting 2 in your dome. So lets say I said yes I have the right to defend my life. What is that even worth? I can believe that with all my heart and soul but someone could catch me with my guard down and kill me. I'm pretty sure the last thing I would be thinking is that I have a right to defend myself.I disagree.Nope you dont have the right to do anything except die and if medical staff is available not even that if they can keep you alive. Correct me if I am wrong but isnt a right something that can be forcibly taken from you? If so, what is it that cannot be forcibly taken from you? A right is simply something someone bestowed on you.Okay, do you have a right to defend your life and that of your loved ones?No. Who told you that you had a right to peace? The essence of life is noisy. Its reacting and acting within your environment to stay alive. The only absolute is that you survive and even thats not a right.Do you and your loved ones have the right to live in peace?My life and the lives of those I love.What are you protecting then?True but thats not the same thing. Someone kicks in my door they will get shot but not because I'm protecting my rights?No, there have been a couple cases where guys won in court after shooting cops for kicking in their doors, but those cases don't get much press..... for reasons that should be obvious.But no one has ever successfully defended those rights to date. The get Waco'dYou do realize when you vote people into power you give them the authority to make laws that may affect you right?because they made laws that make them better armed than us,,,See this is where you guys lose me. You claim you have all these rights and the ordinance to protect them and in the next breath you claim youre being abused. Why arent you attacking the government for taking away your rights?There's some truth to that, but it's also true that almost all of those people immediately begin ignoring the limits of the position they were elected to, and begin asserting power they were never given.You voted those people into power. You made that decision.Nothing in history more murderous than government, and yet there are still people who think they should decide who is armed and empowered?do you think those that do own nukes should have them????So why cant you own a LAW or hell...a nuclear weapon?Only inalienable rights (grants and privileges) can be taken or given or given up.When you become a convict you give up the right to own a gun.
Unalineabe rights are inherent, therefore not tangible, therefore cannot be given, taken, passed on etc.
They can only be restricted or ignored. The 2nd amendment clearly states: shall not be infringed- there are no caveats in shall not.![]()
This is what the tar, feathers, ropes, and guns are for.
but not enough that we will remain silent about it or stop fighting to get them back,,,
...and quite often they do the wrong thing. That is why the right to keep and bear arms is included in the list of inalieable rights. To correct the wrong if needed.
Do you have the right to try?
Or are you just livestock?
Its not an either or question. I may not have a right but I am damn sure going to do what I need to until I am unable to do it.