Securing Syria's Weapons May Require US Troops

[kflan25]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

 

[skye]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

You simply can't safely bomb chemical weapons into oblivion.

"Bombing stockpiles of chemical weapons — purposely or accidentally — would likely kill civilians and create a long-lasting environmental catastrophe or both, experts told The Associated Press. That's because under ideal conditions — and conditions wouldn't be ideal in Syria — explosives would leave at least 20 to 30 percent of the poison in lethal form."

 

[tinydancer]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

You have to be kidding. Just blow up chemical weapon factories and storage facilities with air strikes.

Ahh. Has to be a joke post.

 

[TooTall]

"The only other bit of 'evidence' worth mentioning is a supposed recording of Syrian officials provided to American officials by Mossad. Yes, that’s Mossad, the very people who pride themselves on deception and who have a long track record of expertly using it, even in several cases successfully against the United States."

You mean the same Mossad that provided the US with rock solid proof that Iraq had WMD's?

Yes, along with the American, British, French and every other intelligence agency in the free world.

Your point?

 

[Connery]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

What you suggest can only exacerbate an already tenuous situation. This would be an invitation for a world wide headache.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Has anyone noticed John Kerry's new face? It looks like he had a stroke or botched cosmetic surgery.

Yes,I have. He DID have a chin clip some time ago but lately his right eye looks like someone else's.....He is looking weary.

Well he's not a senator anymore, he actually has to work....

 

[SFC Ollie]

If I remember correctly we could burn mustard gas without any problems. Napalm and WP would do the job...But Nerve agents is a whole different story.....

 

[percysunshine]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

You simply can't safely bomb chemical weapons into oblivion.

"Bombing stockpiles of chemical weapons — purposely or accidentally — would likely kill civilians and create a long-lasting environmental catastrophe or both, experts told The Associated Press. That's because under ideal conditions — and conditions wouldn't be ideal in Syria — explosives would leave at least 20 to 30 percent of the poison in lethal form."

Tactical nukes could work. Wouldn't need to be that precise either.

 

[georgephillip]

any accounting/ disposition of weapons will take some large number of troops, assad is making sure it does, there-fore putting a blanket ahead of time on an US intervention, as in boots n the ground....etc.


Updated September 13, 2013, 9:49 p.m. ET

Elite Syrian Unit Scatters Chemical Arms Stockpile
Assad Regime Has Moved Weapons to as Many as 50 Sites


A secretive Syrian military unit at the center of the Assad regime's chemical weapons program has been moving stocks of poison gases and munitions to as many as 50 sites to make them harder for the U.S. to track, according to American and Middle Eastern officials.

The movements of chemical weapons by Syria's elite Unit 450 could complicate any U.S. bombing campaign in Syria over its alleged chemical attacks, officials said. It also raises questions about implementation of a Russian proposal that calls for the regime to surrender control of its stockpile, they said.

U.S. and Israeli intelligence agencies still believe they know where most of the Syrian regime's chemical weapons are located, but with less confidence than six months ago, U.S. officials said.


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Unit 450 also started using dozens of smaller sites. The U.S. now believes Mr. Assad's chemical arsenal has been scattered to as many as 50 locations in the west, north and south, as well as new sites in the east, officials said.
more at-

Elite Syrian Unit Scatters Chemical Arms Stockpile - WSJ.com

Remember Day 9 of O-I-L?

"MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: Finally, weapons of mass destruction. Key goal of the military campaign is finding those weapons of mass destruction. None have been found yet. There was a raid on the Answar Al-Islam Camp up in the north last night. A lot of people expected to find ricin there. None was found. How big of a problem is that? And is it curious to you that given how much control U.S. and coalition forces now have in the country, they haven't found any weapons of mass destruction?

SEC. RUMSFELD: Not at all. If you think -- let me take that, both pieces -- the area in the south and the west and the north that coalition forces control is substantial. It happens not to be the area where weapons of mass destruction were dispersed. We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat."

Defense.gov News Transcript: Secretary Rumsfeld Remarks on ABC "This Week with George Stephanopoulos"

 

[Claudette]

No American military personnel in Syria..........

No ifs, ands. or buts....

We have no friends there.

Let the ME and Russia handle it....

I agree and I could give fuck one what happens in Syria.

The country has never been a friend of ours so who gives a shit who runs it??

If the Arab League has no plans to take over Syria then there is no need for any American troops to do anything. Hell. Let em all kill each other.

I can't figure out why anyone in our Govt gives shit one about Syria and who runs it.

 

[georgephillip]

"The only other bit of 'evidence' worth mentioning is a supposed recording of Syrian officials provided to American officials by Mossad. Yes, that’s Mossad, the very people who pride themselves on deception and who have a long track record of expertly using it, even in several cases successfully against the United States."

You mean the same Mossad that provided the US with rock solid proof that Iraq had WMD's?

Yes, along with the American, British, French and every other intelligence agency in the free world.

Your point?

The intelligence in America was fixed around the politics.

"According to a report by veteran investigative journalist Bob Woodward in his book Plan of Attack, Tenet privately lent his personal authority to the intelligence reports about weapons of mass destruction (WMDs) in Iraq.[33] At a meeting on December 12, 2002, he assured Bush that the evidence that Iraq had WMDs amounted to a 'slam dunk case...'"

"In September of 2002, the Senate Intelligence Committee met with Tenet in a close-door session. Sen. Bob Graham requested a National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iraq. Tenet responded by saying 'We've never done a National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq' and resisted the request to provide one to Congress.

"Graham insisted 'This is the most important decision that we as members of Congress and that the people of America are likely to make in the foreseeable future. We want to have the best understanding of what it is we're about to get involved with.'

"Tenet refused to do a report on the military or occupation phase, but reluctantly agreed to do a NIE on the weapons of mass destruction.

"Graham described the Senate Intelligence Committee meeting with Tenet as 'the turning point in our attitude towards Tenet and our understanding of how the intelligence community has become so submissive to the desires of the administration. The administration wasn't using intelligence to inform their judgment; they were using intelligence as part of a public relations campaign to justify their judgment.'"

George Tenet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Desperado]

"The only other bit of 'evidence' worth mentioning is a supposed recording of Syrian officials provided to American officials by Mossad. Yes, that’s Mossad, the very people who pride themselves on deception and who have a long track record of expertly using it, even in several cases successfully against the United States."

You mean the same Mossad that provided the US with rock solid proof that Iraq had WMD's?

Yes, along with the American, British, French and every other intelligence agency in the free world.

Your point?

Thought I was pretty clear on that. Israeli intel cannot be trusted. They working in their best interests and not in the best interest of the United States.
For Example:
General: Israelis exaggerated Iraq threat
USATODAY.com - General: Israelis exaggerated Iraq threat

 

[georgephillip]

You mean the same Mossad that provided the US with rock solid proof that Iraq had WMD's?

Yes, along with the American, British, French and every other intelligence agency in the free world.

Your point?

Thought I was pretty clear on that. Israeli intel cannot be trusted. They working in their best interests and not in the best interest of the United States.
For Example:
General: Israelis exaggerated Iraq threat
USATODAY.com - General: Israelis exaggerated Iraq threat

From your link:

"Brom told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that 'Israeli intelligence was a full partner with the United States and Britain in developing a false picture of Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction capability.'

"He said Israeli intelligence 'badly overestimated the Iraqi threat to Israel and reinforced the American and British belief that the weapons existed.'

"Brom said the Israeli assessment may have been influenced by politics. 'Israel has no reason to regret the outcome of the war in Iraq,' he wrote, noting Saddam was an implacable enemy.

The quest for a New Middle East started successfully in Iraq with regime change; however, Israel's 2006 invasion of Lebanon did not result with the IDF occupying southern Lebanon as far as the Litani River. That may explain why the US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Israel are currently so desperate to topple Assad.

If so, look for another false flag operation like the one on June 8, 1967:

"On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died."

 

[Trajan]

Why is everyone talking about us having to put boots on the ground when we are perfectly capable of blowing everything up? Precision air strikes are all we need.

You have to be kidding. Just blow up chemical weapon factories and storage facilities with air strikes.

Ahh. Has to be a joke post.

you can, you crate a thermobaric cushion, via FAE, fuel air explosives......but I wouldn't want to try it if it has to take place in a populated area, and as a last resort, Obama would never do it.

Fuel/Air Explosive (FAE)

 

[The T]

Has anyone noticed John Kerry's new face? It looks like he had a stroke or botched cosmetic surgery.

Yes,I have. He DID have a chin clip some time ago but lately his right eye looks like someone else's.....He is looking weary.

Kerry is leaking BOTOX.

 

[dilloduck]

No American military personnel in Syria..........

No ifs, ands. or buts....

We have no friends there.

Let the ME and Russia handle it....

I agree and I could give fuck one what happens in Syria.

The country has never been a friend of ours so who gives a shit who runs it??

If the Arab League has no plans to take over Syria then there is no need for any American troops to do anything. Hell. Let em all kill each other.

I can't figure out why anyone in our Govt gives shit one about Syria and who runs it.

pipelines and protecting Israel