TheProgressivePatriot
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Shit man! put down the moonshine jug, sleep it off, and get back to me in the morning. Meanwhile, take and English course.Actually, I was not trying to defend congress. They are not my favorite people. I was shooting down your inane assertion that they were exempt from the ACA. Then , when I successfully did that, I destroyed your claim that the fact that their health care plans are subsidized by the taxpayers is somehow a big issue.Did members of Congress exempt themselves from complying with the health care reform laws?/---- Funny you say that we think we're immune when it was Libtards who lined up for exemptions to Obzocare. And Didn't Dems in Congress make themselves exempt for most of their legislation?You know these fascists are always completely convinced that they will be immune from the rule that they seek to foist on other in their totalitarian dream.
*TheProgressivePatriot truly believes he will be a lord who can rule over others should the living hell he promotes ever come to pass. They always do. It is the lust for power that drives those who seek the fascist dictatorship the left promotes.
But readers also asked about another claim in the email: that members of Congress "specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed, such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment, while ordinary citizens must live under those laws. The latest is to exempt themselves from the healthcare reform, in all of its forms."
PolitiFact first examined the claim that members of Congress are exempt from the provisions of the Affordable Care Act in 2009, when the legislation was still under consideration in Congress.
We rated it False. That claim was based on the assumption that the health care reform plan would have sent everyone -- except Congress -- into a new "public option" federal insurance plan. It would not have.
In fact, the law as passed did not even include a public option -- and Section 1213 of it requires members of Congress and congressional staff, starting in 2014, to buy health plans created by the health care act or offered through the state exchanges the act establishes.
Political scientist Norman Ornstein, a long-time observer of Congress and a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, debunked the claim of congressional exemption in a piece he wrote for the Washington newspaper Roll Call.
On the assertion that Members of Congress are exempt from the provisions of the Affordable Care Act: also false," he wrote. "Members of Congress are subject under the health care reform law to the same mandate that others are to purchase insurance, and their plans must have the same minimum standards of benefits that other insurance plans will have to meet. Members of Congress currently have not a gold-plated free plan but the same insurance options that most other federal employees have, and they do not have it provided for free. They have a generous subsidy for their premiums, but no more generous (and compared to many businesses or professions less generous) than standard employer-provided subsidies throughout the country."
FactCheck.org examined the broader claim that members of Congress "specifically exempted themselves from many of the laws they have passed (such as being exempt from any fear of prosecution for sexual harassment)," and found it "15 years out of date" in 2010.
The reason: Passage of the Congressional Accountability Act of 1995. It specifically made sure a variety of laws dealing with civil rights, labor and workplace safety regulations applied to the legislative branch of government. The independent Office of Compliance was set up to enforce the laws in Congress.
The act specifically prohibits harassment based on sex, race, color, religion, national origin, age and disability.
Ornstein, who has been sharply critical of Congress (and only last month co-authored a piece for Foreign Policy magazine titled "Yes, Congress Is That Bad") said it is "not surprising that, in tough times, Americans would be inclined to believe the absolute worst about their elected officials.
"But at least," he added, "let the criticism be fair and based on facts instead of persistent urban legends."
PolitiFact Ohio would agree.
At best, the chain email's statement about Congressional exemptions is ridiculously out of date. At worst, it is cynically inaccurate.
On the Truth-O-Meter, it rates Pants on Fire!
Looks like you didn't debunk much trying to defend Congress
Public Citizen gets it right about insider trading rules
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Now, having lost on those points, you're moving the goal posts again, you're bringing up some horseshit about insider trading which is way off topic.
You didn't successfully do nothing just didn't want to be bothered with your lame attempt at saying they don't have no perks when it comes to premo health care.
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