Senate Democrats release first budget in four years

[TruthOut10]

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats released a budget resolution Wednesday for a 10-year fiscal vision that would trim the deficit and protect entitlement programs. It calls for more spending for roads and schools and for higher taxes on corporations and wealthy Americans to protect middle-class earners.

The budget — the first one Senate Democrats have produced since 2009 — stands in sharp contrast to the House Republicans' plan released Tuesday that calls for cuts in corporate and individual taxes and aims to balance the budget in 10 years, fundamentally overhaul Medicare and eliminate President Obama's health care law.

"The American people are going to have an opportunity to examine these budgets side by side," said Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray, D-Wash. "They are going to be able to decide which approach is best for our economy, best for jobs and best for the middle class."

The House and Senate are scheduled to vote on the competing budgets next week in their respective chambers. Both are likely to pass on party-line votes. "No question. We'll pass the budget," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., this week.

Senate Democrats release first budget in four years

 

[TruthOut10]

For those who don't know how the Government works, which is pretty much a good percentage of your posting on this board. Bills like this should come from the House First, the Congress which is controlled by the Republicans.

Now let's go back a day, that same House controlled by Republicans just released their own budget, Paul Ryan's budget. But wait a minute, John "The Tan Man" Boehner has been criticizing the President for not providing a budget for months. Which was a big fat LIE, because there has been one on the White House website for sometime now. But the Republicans just released one?

The Congressional Black Caucus had released their budget (from the House) before Paul Ryan's Republican budget was released. But I know most didn't know, because the corporate owned media choose to ignore that story altogether. Anyways, they release their own budget every year...

http://cdn.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/CBC-FY13-Budget-Breakdown.pdf

Hell Progressive House Democrats released their own budget last year countering the first Ryan budget plan. But I know, you never heard of that one too...

House Democrats Release Progressive 2013 Budget As Counter To Ryan Plan

House Budget | House Budget Committee Democrats

So please stop the bullshit LIES about the President or Democrats haven't released budgets prior to Ryan's THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP budget plan.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

a "budget" that taxes more and spends more.......?

 

[TruthOut10]

a "budget" that taxes more and spends more.......?

And what do you think Paul Ryan's budget does? The same exact thing, except it will be the poor, working poor and middle class getting taxed more. So I must be replying back to a millionaire?

 

[Antares]

Ohhh lookie...another leftwing prententious moron....

Over the next decade, spending under Murray's budget would increase by 62 percent. Here's a chart from the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee detailing the increase in spending over the next decade:

Nobody will vote for the Senate plan....and yet you'll cheer it as "progress" because you haven't a brain or oringinal thought in your head .

For those who don't know how the Government works, which is pretty much a good percentage of your posting on this board. Bills like this should come from the House First, the Congress which is controlled by the Republicans.

Now let's go back a day, that same House controlled by Republicans just released their own budget, Paul Ryan's budget. But wait a minute, John "The Tan Man" Boehner has been criticizing the President for not providing a budget for months. Which was a big fat LIE, because there has been one on the White House website for sometime now. But the Republicans just released one?

The Congressional Black Caucus had released their budget (from the House) before Paul Ryan's Republican budget was released. But I know most didn't know, because the corporate owned media choose to ignore that story altogether. Anyways, they release their own budget every year...

http://cdn.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/CBC-FY13-Budget-Breakdown.pdf

Hell Progressive House Democrats released their own budget last year countering the first Ryan budget plan. But I know, you never heard of that one too...

House Democrats Release Progressive 2013 Budget As Counter To Ryan Plan

House Budget | House Budget Committee Democrats

So please stop the bullshit LIES about the President or Democrats haven't released budgets prior to Ryan's THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP budget plan.

 

[TruthOut10]

Ohhh lookie...another leftwing prententious moron....

Over the next decade, spending under Murray's budget would increase by 62 percent. Here's a chart from the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee detailing the increase in spending over the next decade:

Nobody will vote for the Senate plan....and yet you'll cheer it as "progress" because you haven't a brain or oringinal thought in your head .

For those who don't know how the Government works, which is pretty much a good percentage of your posting on this board. Bills like this should come from the House First, the Congress which is controlled by the Republicans.

Now let's go back a day, that same House controlled by Republicans just released their own budget, Paul Ryan's budget. But wait a minute, John "The Tan Man" Boehner has been criticizing the President for not providing a budget for months. Which was a big fat LIE, because there has been one on the White House website for sometime now. But the Republicans just released one?

The Congressional Black Caucus had released their budget (from the House) before Paul Ryan's Republican budget was released. But I know most didn't know, because the corporate owned media choose to ignore that story altogether. Anyways, they release their own budget every year...

http://cdn.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/CBC-FY13-Budget-Breakdown.pdf

Hell Progressive House Democrats released their own budget last year countering the first Ryan budget plan. But I know, you never heard of that one too...

House Democrats Release Progressive 2013 Budget As Counter To Ryan Plan

House Budget | House Budget Committee Democrats

So please stop the bullshit LIES about the President or Democrats haven't released budgets prior to Ryan's THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP budget plan.

So many big words coming from you in one short sentence is almost frightening.

Now what's the problem with these alternative budget plans that were (except the Senate Democrats) out before Ryan's which everyone in the media by now has dismissed as make believe to unrealistic?

 

[ScreamingEagle]

a "budget" that taxes more and spends more.......?

And what do you think Paul Ryan's budget does? The same exact thing, except it will be the poor, working poor and middle class getting taxed more. So I must be replying back to a millionaire?

"the exact same thing"......? hardly....

instead of raising taxes on the middle class like BO's plan will do.....Ryan's budget will cut corporate taxes and Obamacare taxes...you do realize that 'taxing the rich' taxes just get passed on down to the end user...?

Ryan's budget will 'pay' for those tax cuts with spending cuts and increased growth...

 

[TruthOut10]

A day after House Republicans outlined their budget proposal for fiscal year 2014, Senate Democrats unveiled a broad outline of their budget, which Senate Budget Committee Chair Patty Murray (D-WA) said will reduce the deficit to less than three percent of gross domestic product while bringing total deficit reduction to $4.2 trillion over the last four years.

The Democratic budget would replace the automatic budget cuts, known as sequestration, that took effect on March 1 with a different set of cuts that will achieve $1.95 trillion in total cuts and revenues. Here are the main provisions of the Democratic budget as outlined by Murray:


$1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction: The Senate budget achieves $1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction split evenly between spending cuts and new revenues and bringing total deficit reduction since President Obama took office to more than $4 trillion once combined with past spending cuts and tax increases. It includes $493 billion in domestic spending cuts, $275 billion of which would come from health savings determined by the Senate Finance Committee. The other $240 billion would come from defense and the end of the war in Afghanistan, and the budget would save $242 billion in interest savings.

$975 billion in new revenues: The budget would achieve half of its deficit reduction from new revenue increases derived from the elimination of tax expenditures and loopholes, though it does not include specifics on which would be eliminated. That would be left to the Senate Finance Committee as part of a broader tax reform bill. A report from the Center for American Progress found that there were more than $1 trillion in tax expenditures that could be eliminated. Those include subsidies for oil and gas companies, a loophole that benefits hedge fund managers, ending tax breaks for corporations that move jobs overseas, and limits on deductions for wealthy taxpayers.

Senate Democratic Budget Reduces Deficit By $1.85 Trillion, Half From Revenue | ThinkProgress

 

[Antares]

It should be,I eat people like you for lunch.

(smile) You aren't very bright.....the House has put out many budgets...and now the Senate puts out on and you are crowing...the President puts one out and can't even get one Dem to voye for it.

You aren't very good at this.

Ohhh lookie...another leftwing prententious moron....

Over the next decade, spending under Murray's budget would increase by 62 percent. Here's a chart from the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee detailing the increase in spending over the next decade:

Nobody will vote for the Senate plan....and yet you'll cheer it as "progress" because you haven't a brain or oringinal thought in your head .

For those who don't know how the Government works, which is pretty much a good percentage of your posting on this board. Bills like this should come from the House First, the Congress which is controlled by the Republicans.

Now let's go back a day, that same House controlled by Republicans just released their own budget, Paul Ryan's budget. But wait a minute, John "The Tan Man" Boehner has been criticizing the President for not providing a budget for months. Which was a big fat LIE, because there has been one on the White House website for sometime now. But the Republicans just released one?

The Congressional Black Caucus had released their budget (from the House) before Paul Ryan's Republican budget was released. But I know most didn't know, because the corporate owned media choose to ignore that story altogether. Anyways, they release their own budget every year...

http://cdn.thecongressionalblackcaucus.com/wp-content/uploads/CBC-FY13-Budget-Breakdown.pdf

Hell Progressive House Democrats released their own budget last year countering the first Ryan budget plan. But I know, you never heard of that one too...

House Democrats Release Progressive 2013 Budget As Counter To Ryan Plan

House Budget | House Budget Committee Democrats

So please stop the bullshit LIES about the President or Democrats haven't released budgets prior to Ryan's THE MATH DOESN'T ADD UP budget plan.

So many big words coming from you in one short sentence is almost frightening.

Now what's the problem with these alternative budget plans that were (except the Senate Democrats) out before Ryan's which everyone in the media by now has dismissed as make believe to unrealistic?

 

[Antares]

Think Progress, can you get me a HuffPo article too?

A day after House Republicans outlined their budget proposal for fiscal year 2014, Senate Democrats unveiled a broad outline of their budget, which Senate Budget Committee Chair Patty Murray (D-WA) said will reduce the deficit to less than three percent of gross domestic product while bringing total deficit reduction to $4.2 trillion over the last four years.

The Democratic budget would replace the automatic budget cuts, known as sequestration, that took effect on March 1 with a different set of cuts that will achieve $1.95 trillion in total cuts and revenues. Here are the main provisions of the Democratic budget as outlined by Murray:


$1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction: The Senate budget achieves $1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction split evenly between spending cuts and new revenues and bringing total deficit reduction since President Obama took office to more than $4 trillion once combined with past spending cuts and tax increases. It includes $493 billion in domestic spending cuts, $275 billion of which would come from health savings determined by the Senate Finance Committee. The other $240 billion would come from defense and the end of the war in Afghanistan, and the budget would save $242 billion in interest savings.

$975 billion in new revenues: The budget would achieve half of its deficit reduction from new revenue increases derived from the elimination of tax expenditures and loopholes, though it does not include specifics on which would be eliminated. That would be left to the Senate Finance Committee as part of a broader tax reform bill. A report from the Center for American Progress found that there were more than $1 trillion in tax expenditures that could be eliminated. Those include subsidies for oil and gas companies, a loophole that benefits hedge fund managers, ending tax breaks for corporations that move jobs overseas, and limits on deductions for wealthy taxpayers.

Senate Democratic Budget Reduces Deficit By $1.85 Trillion, Half From Revenue | ThinkProgress

 

[TruthOut10]

Think Progress, can you get me a HuffPo article too?

A day after House Republicans outlined their budget proposal for fiscal year 2014, Senate Democrats unveiled a broad outline of their budget, which Senate Budget Committee Chair Patty Murray (D-WA) said will reduce the deficit to less than three percent of gross domestic product while bringing total deficit reduction to $4.2 trillion over the last four years.

The Democratic budget would replace the automatic budget cuts, known as sequestration, that took effect on March 1 with a different set of cuts that will achieve $1.95 trillion in total cuts and revenues. Here are the main provisions of the Democratic budget as outlined by Murray:


$1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction: The Senate budget achieves $1.85 trillion in total deficit reduction split evenly between spending cuts and new revenues and bringing total deficit reduction since President Obama took office to more than $4 trillion once combined with past spending cuts and tax increases. It includes $493 billion in domestic spending cuts, $275 billion of which would come from health savings determined by the Senate Finance Committee. The other $240 billion would come from defense and the end of the war in Afghanistan, and the budget would save $242 billion in interest savings.

$975 billion in new revenues: The budget would achieve half of its deficit reduction from new revenue increases derived from the elimination of tax expenditures and loopholes, though it does not include specifics on which would be eliminated. That would be left to the Senate Finance Committee as part of a broader tax reform bill. A report from the Center for American Progress found that there were more than $1 trillion in tax expenditures that could be eliminated. Those include subsidies for oil and gas companies, a loophole that benefits hedge fund managers, ending tax breaks for corporations that move jobs overseas, and limits on deductions for wealthy taxpayers.

Senate Democratic Budget Reduces Deficit By $1.85 Trillion, Half From Revenue | ThinkProgress

I thought that would be your answer, proving that it's you who can't think for yourself. Nor can you articulate the stark differences between the different budgets because you haven't spent 5 minutes reading them, but was quick to offer an response, first attacking me personally.

So back under the rock where you belong with the other "knuckle draggers", had fun proving what an idiot you are....but play time is now over...

 

[TruthOut10]

Latest GOP Budget Marks Latest Attack on Women

Budgets are statements of values and priorities. Based on the GOP’s latest budget, apparently the interests of women are not a priority.

Here’s a look at how the GOP budget is bad for women and children.

Progress Reports - ThinkProgress

 

[bripat9643]

a "budget" that taxes more and spends more.......?

And what do you think Paul Ryan's budget does? The same exact thing, except it will be the poor, working poor and middle class getting taxed more. So I must be replying back to a millionaire?

It doesn't raise taxes. Tt does cut spending. Entitlements are going to be cut. There's no getting around that. The only question is when or how much. Either Congress scales them back now, or the government will simply stop paying them when it goes belly up. Soaking the rich isn't a feasible means of getting around that.

 

[TruthOut10]

There’s nothing wrong with President Obama speed-dating members of Congress. Meeting face to face over food and wine, as Mr. Obama has recently done with several groups of lawmakers from both parties, may ease the demonizing politics of the last four years — along with the president’s well-earned reputation for aloofness. And given how little some Republicans know about his budget proposals — one senator confessed he had no idea what Mr. Obama wanted to cut before last week’s dinner — the shared meals were probably overdue.

But Mr. Obama should have no illusions about the core beliefs of some of his Republican dining partners, or their willingness to accept change. That was made clear on Tuesday when the House Budget Committee chairman, Representative Paul Ryan, unveiled his 2014 spending plan: a retread of ideas that voters soundly rejected, made even worse, if possible, by sharper cuts to vital services and more dishonest tax provisions.

The budget, which will surely fly through the House, was quickly praised as “serious” and job-creating by the Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, though it is neither. By cutting $4.6 trillion from spending over the next decade, it would reverse the country’s nascent economic growth, kill millions of real and potential jobs, and deprive those suffering the most of social assistance.

All the tired ideas from 2011 and 2012 are back: eliminating Medicare’s guarantee to retirees by turning it into a voucher plan; dispensing with Medicaid and food stamps by turning them into block grants for states to cut freely; repealing most of the reforms to health care and Wall Street; shrinking beyond recognition the federal role in education, job training, transportation and scientific and medical research. The public opinion of these callous proposals was made clear in the fall election, but Mr. Ryan is too ideologically fervid to have learned that lesson.

The 2014 budget is even worse than that of the previous two years because it attempts to balance the budget in 10 years instead of the previous 20 or more. That would take nondefense discretionary spending down to nearly 2 percent of the economy, the lowest in modern history. And in its laziest section, it sets a goal of slashing the top tax rate for the rich to 25 percent from 39.6 percent, though naturally Mr. Ryan doesn’t explain how this could happen without raising taxes on middle- and lower-income people. (Sound familiar?)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/13/opinion/the-worst-of-paul-ryans-budgets.html?_r=0

 

[DiamondDave]

Opinion pieces as proof from a left winger.. how shocking

 

[TruthOut10]

There’s nothing wrong with President Obama speed-dating members of Congress. Meeting face to face over food and wine, as Mr. Obama has recently done with several groups of lawmakers from both parties, may ease the demonizing politics of the last four years — along with the president’s well-earned reputation for aloofness. And given how little some Republicans know about his budget proposals — one senator confessed he had no idea what Mr. Obama wanted to cut before last week’s dinner — the shared meals were probably overdue.

But Mr. Obama should have no illusions about the core beliefs of some of his Republican dining partners, or their willingness to accept change. That was made clear on Tuesday when the House Budget Committee chairman, Representative Paul Ryan, unveiled his 2014 spending plan: a retread of ideas that voters soundly rejected, made even worse, if possible, by sharper cuts to vital services and more dishonest tax provisions.

The budget, which will surely fly through the House, was quickly praised as “serious” and job-creating by the Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, though it is neither. By cutting $4.6 trillion from spending over the next decade, it would reverse the country’s nascent economic growth, kill millions of real and potential jobs, and deprive those suffering the most of social assistance.

All the tired ideas from 2011 and 2012 are back: eliminating Medicare’s guarantee to retirees by turning it into a voucher plan; dispensing with Medicaid and food stamps by turning them into block grants for states to cut freely; repealing most of the reforms to health care and Wall Street; shrinking beyond recognition the federal role in education, job training, transportation and scientific and medical research. The public opinion of these callous proposals was made clear in the fall election, but Mr. Ryan is too ideologically fervid to have learned that lesson.

The 2014 budget is even worse than that of the previous two years because it attempts to balance the budget in 10 years instead of the previous 20 or more. That would take nondefense discretionary spending down to nearly 2 percent of the economy, the lowest in modern history. And in its laziest section, it sets a goal of slashing the top tax rate for the rich to 25 percent from 39.6 percent, though naturally Mr. Ryan doesn’t explain how this could happen without raising taxes on middle- and lower-income people. (Sound familiar?)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/13/opinion/the-worst-of-paul-ryans-budgets.html?_r=0

Think Progress or Huffington Post This.......Damn Trolls

 

[Antares]

Meanwhile, the spin about "balance" has so agitated Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the ranking Republican on the Budget Committee, that he has issued a rebuttal report calling the Democratic budget "flawed and dangerous." He complains that the Democrats don't include "any of the ObamaCare spending increases or tax hikes or the spending blitz before 2010." In other words, it ignores $890 billion of new ObamaCare spending, a half-trillion of stimulus spending and just over $1 trillion in tax hikes. Ms. Murray's deficit reduction is half as large as Paul Ryan's.

Political Diary: A Senate Budget at Last - WSJ.com

 

[Antares]

Senate Democrats unveiled a largely stand-pat budget Wednesday that calls for $1 trillion in new tax revenues over the coming decade but actually increases spending, while protecting the party’s domestic policy priorities and adding $4 trillion more to the national debt rather than a slashing alternative from House Republicans.

It is Senate Democrats’ first proposed budget in four years.

The plan by Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray (D-Wash.) blends about $1 trillion in modest cuts to health care providers, the Pentagon, domestic agencies and interest payments on the debt with an equal amount in new revenue claimed by closing tax breaks.

But because Democrats want to restore $1.2 trillion in automatic spending cuts over the same period – cuts imposed by Washington’s failure to strike a broader budget pact – Murray’s blueprint increases spending slightly when compared with current policies

Senate Dems? First Proposed Budget in 4 Years Adds $4 Trillion to National Debt, Includes $1 Trillion in New Tax Hikes | TheBlaze.com

 

[TruthOut10]

a "budget" that taxes more and spends more.......?

And what do you think Paul Ryan's budget does? The same exact thing, except it will be the poor, working poor and middle class getting taxed more. So I must be replying back to a millionaire?

It doesn't raise taxes. Tt does cut spending. Entitlements are going to be cut. There's no getting around that. The only question is when or how much. Either Congress scales them back now, or the government will simply stop paying them when it goes belly up. Soaking the rich isn't a feasible means of getting around that.

The 2014 budget is even worse than that of the previous two years because it attempts to balance the budget in 10 years instead of the previous 20 or more. That would take nondefense discretionary spending down to nearly 2 percent of the economy, the lowest in modern history. And in its laziest section, it sets a goal of slashing the top tax rate for the rich to 25 percent from 39.6 percent, though naturally Mr. Ryan doesn’t explain how this could happen without raising taxes on middle- and lower-income people. (Sound familiar?)

 

[bripat9643]

Latest GOP Budget Marks Latest Attack on Women

Budgets are statements of values and priorities. Based on the GOP’s latest budget, apparently the interests of women are not a priority.

Here’s a look at how the GOP budget is bad for women and children.

Progress Reports - ThinkProgress

I think women have an interest in Social Security and Medicare not going belly up in 10-15 years, don't you?