Senate may change the rules to counter Pelosis childish games.

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5bebe6-2fdb-11ea-898f-eb846b7e9feb_story.html

Get it done fellas.

Great plan, idiots. The Constitution, is, of course, just a goddamn piece of paper. I remember another 'smart man' said something along those lines. Can't put my finger on who...

 

[M14 Shooter]

They cannot un-impeach him. He has been impeached.

And thus, the Senate can start itstrial whenever it chooses, and Pelosi can't do a thing about it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5bebe6-2fdb-11ea-898f-eb846b7e9feb_story.html
Get it done fellas.

Great plan, idiots. The Constitution, is, of course, just a goddamn piece of paper. I remember another 'smart man' said something along those lines. Can't put my finger on who...

You think a Senate trial of an impeached President violates the Constitution?

 

[toomuchtime_]

The senate moving forward on removing the President without the articles of impeachment?

Sure...why not. Lol

Everyone has the articles of impeachment. There is no reason to wait before acquitting the President of all faux charges.

 

[Nostra]

It is a tricky one but constitution seems to give the Justice power over the trial rather than the Senate.

Sole power. The Senate makes the rules - and one of those rules is the presiding judge can be overruled by a simple majority.

Actually there is a contradiction...

The Constitution said the Senate has sole power and then says the Chief Justice will preside over the trial... That doesn't make sense...

The is a number of interpretations... But it is very plausible to say it is a trial and trials have evidence and witnesses which are relevant to the charges... The Chief Justice could upset at seeing a kangaroo trial which he is presiding and could object and get legal... Senate rules are just that rukes and the Judge has a duty too..

Funny shit. The entire time Nazi's Kangaroo Court ignored and violated House rules, and normal procedures of an indictment, the Dimwingers wailed "THIS IS NOT A COURt OF LAW".

Now Dimwingers are wanting the trial in the Senate to be just like a trial in a court of law. And they are too fucking stupid to see their own hypocrisy.

 

[Nostra]

Other than Senate rules, where is it written the Senate must wait for the articles to be delivered to them?

Actually this is a strange one but Chief Justice John Roberts could take it upon himself to conduct the trial...

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.

This means the Chief Justice could call what ever witness he likes and can continue to do so unless the Senate decide to close it down. The law overrides any Senate rules...

Honestly I think a proper trial is what we need and less of the grandstanding from both sides... All the witnesses, if Trump's team want to call Hunter they just have to show relevance to the case, but Roberts agrees so be it... Same rule for evidence and Rudy, Soland.....

Full Transparency with a proper Judge... what's wrong with that...

He possibly could but the Senate can overrule any decisions he makes.

That is a Senate rule not a law... So it could be said the Senate are giving themselves powers which is not given to them under law...

It is a tricky one but constitution seems to give the Justice power over the trial rather than the Senate.

Generally like in the Clinton case there was an agreement to how the trial is going to be run from both sides but this time Mitch has said he will do what the White House wants and negated his oath as being as impartial juror. Chief Justice could leverage his power too and hold them to the constitution.

US Contitution: The Senate shall have the SOLE POWER to try ALL IMPEACHMENTS.

No trial, no impeachment.

They cannot un-impeach him. He has been impeached. Furthermore under current rules they can't have a trial with out the House transmitting the articles. If that's what they want to do they have to change the rules of the Senate.

Constitution: The Senate shall have the sole power to try ALL impeachments.

Until it gets to the Senate to try, there is no impeachment.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5bebe6-2fdb-11ea-898f-eb846b7e9feb_story.html
Get it done fellas.

Great plan, idiots. The Constitution, is, of course, just a goddamn piece of paper. I remember another 'smart man' said something along those lines. Can't put my finger on who...

You think a Senate trial of an impeached President violates the Constitution?

Without the Articles? Yes.

 

[Nostra]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5bebe6-2fdb-11ea-898f-eb846b7e9feb_story.html
Get it done fellas.

Great plan, idiots. The Constitution, is, of course, just a goddamn piece of paper. I remember another 'smart man' said something along those lines. Can't put my finger on who...

You think a Senate trial of an impeached President violates the Constitution?

Without the Articles? Yes.

Thanks for admitting he hasn't been impeached................'unanimously' or otherwise.

 

[Siete]

dems want a fair senate trial so Republicans want to change the rules to NO FAIR TRIAL -

Funny shit -

 

[BlindBoo]

They cannot un-impeach him. He has been impeached.

And thus, the Senate can start itstrial whenever it chooses, and Pelosi can't do a thing about it.

Yep the Speaker of the House has no say in how or when the Senate changes their rules. Since the Trumpublicans can't get their way under the current Senate rules, I'll bet they change them too.

 

[Nostra]

dems want a fair senate trial so Republicans want to change the rules to NO FAIR TRIAL -

Funny shit -

Well then, Dims should have had a fair process in the House.

 

[CowboyTed]

It is a tricky one but constitution seems to give the Justice power over the trial rather than the Senate.

Sole power. The Senate makes the rules - and one of those rules is the presiding judge can be overruled by a simple majority.

Actually there is a contradiction...

The Constitution said the Senate has sole power and then says the Chief Justice will preside over the trial... That doesn't make sense...

The is a number of interpretations... But it is very plausible to say it is a trial and trials have evidence and witnesses which are relevant to the charges... The Chief Justice could upset at seeing a kangaroo trial which he is presiding and could object and get legal... Senate rules are just that rukes and the Judge has a duty too..

Funny shit. The entire time Nazi's Kangaroo Court ignored and violated House rules, and normal procedures of an indictment, the Dimwingers wailed "THIS IS NOT A COURt OF LAW".

Now Dimwingers are wanting the trial in the Senate to be just like a trial in a court of law. And they are too fucking stupid to see their own hypocrisy.

Sorry but that in not true... The Impeachment inquiry was just that an inquiry not a trial, they followed all the rules and even subpoenaed White House staff which was refused...

GOP representatives were present for all questions and answers... Nunes never said he had a massive conflict of interest...

Democrats were doing an investigation not running a court...

 

[candycorn]

The senate moving forward on removing the President without the articles of impeachment?

Sure...why not. Lol

Everyone has the articles of impeachment. There is no reason to wait before acquitting the President of all faux charges.

okay....nobody knows if you’re correct or not.

Ten words Or so in the Constitution would clear it up.

 

[Nostra]

It is a tricky one but constitution seems to give the Justice power over the trial rather than the Senate.

Sole power. The Senate makes the rules - and one of those rules is the presiding judge can be overruled by a simple majority.

Actually there is a contradiction...

The Constitution said the Senate has sole power and then says the Chief Justice will preside over the trial... That doesn't make sense...

The is a number of interpretations... But it is very plausible to say it is a trial and trials have evidence and witnesses which are relevant to the charges... The Chief Justice could upset at seeing a kangaroo trial which he is presiding and could object and get legal... Senate rules are just that rukes and the Judge has a duty too..

Funny shit. The entire time Nazi's Kangaroo Court ignored and violated House rules, and normal procedures of an indictment, the Dimwingers wailed "THIS IS NOT A COURt OF LAW".

Now Dimwingers are wanting the trial in the Senate to be just like a trial in a court of law. And they are too fucking stupid to see their own hypocrisy.

Sorry but that in not true... The Impeachment inquiry was just that an inquiry not a trial, they followed all the rules and even subpoenaed White House staff which was refused...

GOP representatives were present for all questions and answers... Nunes never said he had a massive conflict of interest...

Democrats were doing an investigation not running a court...

Link us up to all the Republican witnesses they were allowed to call?

Link us up to the day the House Rules set aside for the minority party to call witnesses?

 

[M14 Shooter]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5bebe6-2fdb-11ea-898f-eb846b7e9feb_story.html
Get it done fellas.

Great plan, idiots. The Constitution, is, of course, just a goddamn piece of paper. I remember another 'smart man' said something along those lines. Can't put my finger on who...

You think a Senate trial of an impeached President violates the Constitution?

Without the Articles? Yes.

If the President has been impeached, the senate can start the trial any time it wants.
If the senate cannot start a trial, the President has not been impeached.
Pick one and let us know.

 

[M14 Shooter]

They cannot un-impeach him. He has been impeached.

And thus, the Senate can start itstrial whenever it chooses, and Pelosi can't do a thing about it.

Yep the Speaker of the House has no say in how or when the Senate changes their rules. Since the Trumpublicans can't get their way under the current Senate rules, I'll bet they change them too.

Since the House insanely believes it can force concessions from the Senate, there's no reason for it to NOT change the rules and get on with the trial.

 

[Rambunctious]

This has now become nothing more than the dems tampering with the 2020 elections...its obvious to intelligent sincere people...

 

[toomuchtime_]

This has now become nothing more than the dems tampering with the 2020 elections...its obvious to intelligent sincere people...

Of course, it's entirely about the election Pelosi wants to time thin so it runs into next years election.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

If the President has been impeached, the senate can start the trial any time it wants.

Actually, the Senate will do whatever it wants, right? That is the real talk you cowards avoid addressing. Unlike you, I value the Constitution and our Democratic Republic and can only hope our elected Senators do business in accordance to the spirit and decorum of both. In short, this means you follow the fucking rules. Unfortunately, we both know this likely won't happen as both parties want to do whatever the fuck they want. Majorities in both houses are doing their very, very best to give our democracy the finger.

 

[M14 Shooter]

If the President has been impeached, the senate can start the trial any time it wants.

Actually, the Senate will do whatever it wants, right?

Just like the House did.
Why do you think the Senate should show greater consideration to the Democrats than the House gave to the Republicans?

Unlike you, I value the Constitution and our Democratic Republic...

If that were the case you;d rant on and on about the disrespect the House Democrats displayed for the Constitution in their sham of an impeachment inquiry/investigation.