Zone1 Separation of Church and State?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Which scotus case are you referring to, I’d like to read up on it.

CaseS. Plural.

Here are some.

establsihment clause state law struck down - Google Search

 

[ThisIsMe]

Right.

Which is why these bizarre new laws about ten commandments in the schools will go away.

Displaying the Ten Commandments is not favoring one religion over another.

Government is not prohibited from religion

 

[ThisIsMe]

Which religion does the word "God" establish?

None, because they haven’t established a religion.

Establish:

Definition of ESTABLISH

to institute (something, such as a law) permanently by enactment or agreement; settle; to make firm or stable… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

to institute (something, such as a law) permanently by enactment or agreement

Government hasn’t done that and it can’t do that.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Displaying the Ten Commandments is not favoring one religion over another.

It of course is, which is why it will be struck down.

Just as it has been in the past.

Stone v. Graham (1980)
The court ruled that a Kentucky law requiring school officials to display the Ten Commandments in public classrooms violated the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.

Given that the State of Lousiana has no excuse for not being aware of their transgression, some civil damages might also be in order.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Not Buddhism. Not Hinduism. Not Taoism.

Not Christianity either.

 

[alang1216]

Apparently they must all be fruits of a massive conspiracy, right? Because you know for certain Jesus never performed any miracles, right?

My explanation is that the miracles performed by Christ either happened or it's the granddaddy of all conspiracies. And since I see no evidence of a conspiracy, it must have happened no matter how implausible it seems.

I know for certain I've never seen anyone raised from the dead or any miracles of any kind. Of course some claim that Trump dodging that bullet was a miracle so who can say for sure. Does Jesus perform the same miracles in every account or are they different in each telling?

 

[ding]

I know for certain I've never seen anyone raised from the dead or any miracles of any kind. Of course some claim that Trump dodging that bullet was a miracle so who can say for sure. Does Jesus perform the same miracles in every account or are they different in each telling?

You tell me. Do you think they were honest mistakes or intentional lies? There were after all like 40 such accounts, right?

 

[alang1216]

I'm not trying to convince you. I'm only pointing out that if you are correct that the account of Christ must be the granddaddy of all conspiracies. A point you are unwilling to accept.

I guess you'd describe Santa Claus as a conspiracy. Or do you believe in him too?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Not Christianity either.

I think you meant to say, not JUST Christianity.

It of course favors monotheistic religions over all else.

 

[ding]

I guess you'd describe Santa Claus as a conspiracy. Or do you believe in him too?

No. I'd describe Santa Claus as make believe with no evil intentions.

 

[alang1216]

You tell me. Do you think they were honest mistakes or intentional lies? There were after all like 40 such accounts, right?

Were the myths of pagan cultures honest mistakes or intentional lies?

 

[ding]

Were the myths of pagan cultures honest mistakes or intentional lies?

You tell me and while you are at it tell me if you think the 40 or so accounts of miracles performed by Christ were just honest mistakes or intentional lies.

 

[alang1216]

No. I'd describe Santa Claus as make believe with no evil intentions.

He is based on a real person but the stories of him are embellished. Who is responsible for that conspiracy?

 

[ding]

He is based on a real person but the stories of him are embellished. Who is responsible for that conspiracy?

The embellishments are the accounts unlike embellishments in the OT which were used to make specific points usually about historical events.

 

[ding]

He is based on a real person but the stories of him are embellished. Who is responsible for that conspiracy?

What was the purpose of the embellishments of Christ? What was the objective?

 

[ding]

Who is responsible for that conspiracy?

That's the question I am asking you. I don't believe there was a conspiracy. I believe in the historicity of the miracles performed by Christ. You are the one who doesn't believe the accounts are truthful.

 

[ThisIsMe]

CaseS. Plural.

Here are some.

establsihment clause state law struck down - Google Search

I didn’t really see anything in there about scotus shooting down the law, but I did find some examples of where scotus said religious symbols were ok in some instances…and not ok in others.

Religious Displays on Government Property

www.law.cornell.edu

Supreme Court Undermines Religious Neutrality In Permitting Giant Governmental Cross | ACLU

www.aclu.org

 

[alang1216]

You tell me and while you are at it tell me if you think the 40 or so accounts of miracles performed by Christ were just honest mistakes or intentional lies.

No, you tell me and while you're at it tell me why there are so many discrepancies in the Bible.

 

[alang1216]

That's the question I am asking you. I don't believe there was a conspiracy. I believe in the historicity of the miracles performed by Christ. You are the one who doesn't believe the accounts are truthful.

The question you have avoided answering pertains to Santa Claus, not Jesus.

 

[alang1216]

What was the purpose of the embellishments of Christ? What was the objective?

I already gave you the big reason for the virgin birth and miracles, competition with pagan myths. Another reason was to show that Jesus fulfilled the prophesies of the OT, e.g., Jesus being born in Bethlehem.