Zone1 Separation of Church and State?

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Separation of church and State is NOT in the Constitution. The Constitution prohibits the ESTABLISHMENT of a STATE RELIGION. Therefore any State building displaying the Ten Commandments (for instance) should not be prohibited. DC has many churches as well but none are part of the government.

Again, false, per the wording of the constitution. It prohibits much more than that.

 

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True, it specifically says "congress".

But as the SCOTUS has shown over the years, they also interpret the constitution in spirit.

No. The Supreme Court explicitly applied the Establishment Clause to the states in the 1947 case Everson v. Board of Education. Which also is what bound the states to the 2nd Amendment restrictions as well.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No. The Supreme Court explicitly applied the Establishment Clause to the states in the 1947 case Everson v. Board of Education. Which also is what bound the states to the 2nd Amendment restrictions as well.

Uh, yes. Go read up. The SCOTUS has more than once ruled religious displays on state property and state laws unconstitutional.

Not sure why you would waste anyone's time arguing that.

 

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Right. He didn't want any competition. He created his own religion.

Like the Kims.

It's fascinating how easy that is to do. One generation later, and kids are brainwashed with Kimism instead of the religion of their grandparents.

It's a fine demonstration of the interchangeability of religions, itself demonstrating that all of it relies on human hardwiring to believe magical ideas. In short... no one religion is very special. Take one away, and it is easily replaced by another.

The religion of militant atheism.

 

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Uh, yes. Go read up. The SCOTUS has more than once ruled religious displays on state property and state laws unconstitutional.

Not sure why you would waste anyone's time arguing that.

I just told you the case that bound states to Bill of Rights restrictions, dummy. Do you need a link that says so?

You can thank SCOTUS for states not being able to infringe on 2nd Amendment rights.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

The religion of militant atheism.

No, afraid not. The Kims are regarded as gods.

Stalin was revered as divine as well.

You sure do make a lot of silly, elementary errors, ding. Your emotions get the best of you.

 

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No, afraid not. The Kims are regarded as gods.

Stalin was revered as divine as well.

You sure do make a lot of silly, elementary errors, ding. Your emotions get the best of you.

Are you going to make me prove that every communist regime was a regime of militant atheists?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Are you going to make me prove that every communist regime was a regime of militant atheists?

You are free to waste your own time. Not mine. Have fun.

 

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You are free to waste your own time. Not mine. Have fun.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Obviously false. They may make no law respecting religion, as the document says.

Incorrect, they make no law respecting the establishment of religion

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Incorrect, they make no law respecting the establishment of religion

Misquoted. All: scroll up for actual wording

It means making no laws that favor one religion over another.

Which means your declaration about it only meaning they can't declare a State Religion was false.

There is nothing to argue about here. You either misspoke, or you were just incorrect.

Moving on...

 

[ThisIsMe]

Separation of church and State is NOT in the Constitution. The Constitution prohibits the ESTABLISHMENT of a STATE RELIGION. Therefore any State building displaying the Ten Commandments (for instance) should not be prohibited from doing so. DC has many churches as well but none are part of the government.

That’s not correct. Government can have religious symbolism, it can have prayer it can even participate and support religious activities if it wants to, it just can’t declare any religion to be a national religion.

This is why Congress passed an act to reaffirm “in God we trust” as our official motto, and encourages displaying it in government buildings. That motto is also displayed in the house chambers

 

[Leo123]

That’s not correct. Government can have religious symbolism, it can have prayer it can even participate and support religious activities if it wants to, it just can’t declare any religion to be a national religion.

This is why Congress passed an act to reaffirm “in God we trust” as our official motto, and encourages displaying it in government buildings. That motto is also displayed in the house chambers

You just agreed with me, thanks.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Which means making no laws that favor one religion over another.

Which means you're declaration about it. Only meaning they can't make a state. Religion was false.

There is nothing to argue about here. You either misspoke, or you were just incorrect.

Moving on..

Correct, government can’t favor one religion over another and it can’t declare a national religion. No disagreement there, but that does not mean government has to be devoid of religion.

 

[ThisIsMe]

You just agreed with me, thanks.

Is sure did didn’t I! lol. I need to learn to read good (Zoolander reference)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Correct, government can’t favor one religion over another and it can’t declare a national religion.

Right.

Which is why these bizarre new laws about ten commandments in the schools will go away.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That’s not correct. Government can have religious symbolism, it can have prayer it can even participate and support religious activities if it wants to, it just can’t declare any religion to be a national religion.

This is why Congress passed an act to reaffirm “in God we trust” as our official motto, and encourages displaying it in government buildings. That motto is also displayed in the house chambers

Which religion does the word "God" establish?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Which religion does the word "God" establish?

Not Buddhism. Not Hinduism. Not Taoism.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Uh, yes. Go read up. The SCOTUS has more than once ruled religious displays on state property and state laws unconstitutional.

Not sure why you would waste anyone's time arguing that.

Which scotus case are you referring to, I’d like to read up on it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Misquoted. All: scroll up for actual wording

It means making no laws that favor one religion over another.

Which means your declaration about it only meaning they can't declare a State Religion was false.

There is nothing to argue about here. You either misspoke, or you were just incorrect.

Moving on...

Misquoted. All: scroll up for actual wording

Not misquoted. I quoted it correctly.

https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-1/#:~:text=Congress%20shall%20make%20no%20law,for%20a%20redress%20of%20grievances.