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SERIOUS question for all Trump acolytes on this forum....
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Weatherman2020
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In America we prove guilt, not innocence, Comrade.WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
JusticeHammer
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Something libtards don't understand.WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
It is neither Barr's nor Mueller's job to exonerate Trump. That is the job of a jury of his peers.
Since there is no indictment, no charge and no trial, no exoneration is necessary. There is nothing to exonerate.
playtime
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Guliani said today ""even if it's true, it's notBut, they were right.Trump: 'Don’t believe what you’re reading or seeing'
Giuliani: 'Truth isn't truth'
Kellyanne Conway : "You're saying it's a falsehood, and they're saying Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that."
that's the world they live in.
All the people on the left said this was going to be a smoking gun. They all said there was collusion. They all said Trump is a puppet of Russia, which there are people on this forum still saying it to this day.
They all said "here's the truth! Trump is (insert accusation after accusation)"
And now we know for a fact...... Truth isn't truth. Giuliani was right. 'Don't believe what you're reading and seeing', and Trump was right.
So you can say that's the world we live in.... because it's the world you live in too. Jessie Smollett anyone? Don't believe what you see and hear, because the left is full of liars.
oh bullshit.
the only reason mueller wrote a declination on 'collusion' was because 'documentary' evidence had been destroyed AND he couldn't get trump to do an interview. he didn't have enough to recommend charging him with conspiracy although itprobably would have gone that way. hence the obstruction... hence he wants congress to take it up per DOJ policy.
oh for fuck's sake.
Yes, Collusion
Even with redactions, the Mueller report contains ample evidence Trump and his campaign sought foreign help in 2016.
By ALEX SHEPHARD
April 18, 2019
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Over the course of Donald Trump’s presidency, “no collusion” has become a mantra, rivaling only “Make America Great Again” as a motto and, at times, an organizing principle. The president and his defenders have uttered the phrase hundreds of times. For Trump, “no collusion” is a shield—proof the Russia inquiry that has dogged his presidency is a sham concocted by his perceived enemies: the Democrats, the media, and the deep state. The president’s public statements in the wake of Attorney General William Barr’s summary of the Mueller report and the release of the redacted version of the report itself have all centered on the inability to prove criminal conspiracy, equating that with an absence of any criminality or misbehavior.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118921900858793985
Donald J. Trump
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118921900858793985
As I have been saying all along, NO COLLUSION - NO OBSTRUCT12:59 PM - Apr 18, 2019
https://newrepublic.com/article/153481/living-off-grid-safe-hurricanes-puerto-rico
The president and, particularly, his attorneys have gone to great lengths to narrow the definition of “collusion,” which is itself not a legal term. In their hands, only a proven conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials—a stated and agreed upon quid pro quo in advance of any illegal conduct—could qualify as collusion. Mueller’s team’s inability to find proof of that conspiracy, in Team Trump’s opinion, is all they need to show that the president has been completely exonerated. For the “Russia thing,” as Trump has called it, to be real, the special counsel would have had to prove this level of criminal coordination.
The text of the Mueller report, however, offers a very different picture. While an improbable smoking gun showing an agreed upon deal between the Trump campaign and Russian officials has not been produced, the report—even with all its redactions—is full of instances in which Trump and a number of his aides, advisers, and family members are talking with figures linked in various ways to Russia. These conversations broadly fall into two disquieting categories: what the hacked information being disseminated by WikiLeaks might contain; and what Russia, its officials, operatives, or cutouts could do for the campaign. Even without clear evidence of criminal conspiracy, there’s plenty of evidence of collusion in what amounts to a consistently damning portrait of a campaign welcoming—and egging on—election interference.
The Mueller report represents a clear narrative on interference in the 2016 election. Russia chose to intervene in the election in an effort to promote Trump and damage Hillary Clinton. The Trump campaign welcomed their help and encouraged it, both publicly and privately. Trump’s “Russia, if you’re listening” comment from July 2016 is presented as evidence in the report, as are more than one hundred interactions between campaign officials and figures with ties to Russia.
The Trump team “expected it would benefit” from the release of hacked emails. As soon as they became aware that WikiLeaks had in its possession stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, Trump and his associates began “planning a press strategy, a communications campaign, and messaging based on the possible release of Clinton emails by WikiLeaks” to press their advantage. In so doing, the Trump Campaign turned an influence effort from a foreign power into a key strategy for a United States presidential election. Over the course of 2016, moreover, Trumpworld figures repeatedly reached out to people with ties to Russia to inquire about future hacks.
The now infamous Trump Tower meeting of June 9, 2016 between Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya is case in point. That meeting was arranged after Trump Jr. had been told that the Russian government had “‘offered to provide the Trump Campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia’ as ‘part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.’” There’s no evidence that any information was passed between Veselnitskaya and the Trump officials at that meeting, but its existence points to the Trump campaign’s efforts to gain what it perceived as valuable information from figures with ties to Russia.
Even with redactions, the Mueller report contains ample evidence Trump and his campaign sought foreign help in 2016.
By ALEX SHEPHARD
April 18, 2019
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Over the course of Donald Trump’s presidency, “no collusion” has become a mantra, rivaling only “Make America Great Again” as a motto and, at times, an organizing principle. The president and his defenders have uttered the phrase hundreds of times. For Trump, “no collusion” is a shield—proof the Russia inquiry that has dogged his presidency is a sham concocted by his perceived enemies: the Democrats, the media, and the deep state. The president’s public statements in the wake of Attorney General William Barr’s summary of the Mueller report and the release of the redacted version of the report itself have all centered on the inability to prove criminal conspiracy, equating that with an absence of any criminality or misbehavior.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118921900858793985
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1118921900858793985
As I have been saying all along, NO COLLUSION - NO OBSTRUCT12:59 PM - Apr 18, 2019
https://newrepublic.com/article/153481/living-off-grid-safe-hurricanes-puerto-rico
The president and, particularly, his attorneys have gone to great lengths to narrow the definition of “collusion,” which is itself not a legal term. In their hands, only a proven conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russian officials—a stated and agreed upon quid pro quo in advance of any illegal conduct—could qualify as collusion. Mueller’s team’s inability to find proof of that conspiracy, in Team Trump’s opinion, is all they need to show that the president has been completely exonerated. For the “Russia thing,” as Trump has called it, to be real, the special counsel would have had to prove this level of criminal coordination.
The text of the Mueller report, however, offers a very different picture. While an improbable smoking gun showing an agreed upon deal between the Trump campaign and Russian officials has not been produced, the report—even with all its redactions—is full of instances in which Trump and a number of his aides, advisers, and family members are talking with figures linked in various ways to Russia. These conversations broadly fall into two disquieting categories: what the hacked information being disseminated by WikiLeaks might contain; and what Russia, its officials, operatives, or cutouts could do for the campaign. Even without clear evidence of criminal conspiracy, there’s plenty of evidence of collusion in what amounts to a consistently damning portrait of a campaign welcoming—and egging on—election interference.
The Mueller report represents a clear narrative on interference in the 2016 election. Russia chose to intervene in the election in an effort to promote Trump and damage Hillary Clinton. The Trump campaign welcomed their help and encouraged it, both publicly and privately. Trump’s “Russia, if you’re listening” comment from July 2016 is presented as evidence in the report, as are more than one hundred interactions between campaign officials and figures with ties to Russia.
The Trump team “expected it would benefit” from the release of hacked emails. As soon as they became aware that WikiLeaks had in its possession stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee, Trump and his associates began “planning a press strategy, a communications campaign, and messaging based on the possible release of Clinton emails by WikiLeaks” to press their advantage. In so doing, the Trump Campaign turned an influence effort from a foreign power into a key strategy for a United States presidential election. Over the course of 2016, moreover, Trumpworld figures repeatedly reached out to people with ties to Russia to inquire about future hacks.
The now infamous Trump Tower meeting of June 9, 2016 between Donald Trump Jr., then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya is case in point. That meeting was arranged after Trump Jr. had been told that the Russian government had “‘offered to provide the Trump Campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia’ as ‘part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.’” There’s no evidence that any information was passed between Veselnitskaya and the Trump officials at that meeting, but its existence points to the Trump campaign’s efforts to gain what it perceived as valuable information from figures with ties to Russia.
playtime
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READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump....
Why is it that you think we care? Nothing in that sport will even come close to changing our votes in 2020.
^^^ poster boy ^^^
I would rather be a friend of his than a suicided friend of the Clintons.
lol... donny doesn't have friends... only people that can give him something. & i'm am sure you would give it to him......
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump....
Why is it that you think we care? Nothing in that sport will even come close to changing our votes in 2020.
^^^ poster boy ^^^
I would rather be a friend of his than a suicided friend of the Clintons.
lol... donny doesn't have friends... only people that can give him something. & i'm am sure you would give it to him......
oh for fuck's sake.
playtime
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READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump....
Why is it that you think we care? Nothing in that sport will even come close to changing our votes in 2020.
^^^ poster boy ^^^
I would rather be a friend of his than a suicided friend of the Clintons.
lol... donny doesn't have friends... only people that can give him something. & i'm am sure you would give it to him......
oh for fuck's sake.
you are the one defending him... so follow the bouncing orange ball..............
So when trump said he was exonerated it was just another lie ,, Indictments already made and plenty more to comeSomething libtards don't understand.WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
It is neither Barr's nor Mueller's job to exonerate Trump. That is the job of a jury of his peers.
Since there is no indictment, no charge and no trial, no exoneration is necessary. There is nothing to exonerate.
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump....
Why is it that you think we care? Nothing in that sport will even come close to changing our votes in 2020.
^^^ poster boy ^^^
I would rather be a friend of his than a suicided friend of the Clintons.
lol... donny doesn't have friends... only people that can give him something. & i'm am sure you would give it to him......
oh for fuck's sake.
You're banned
the other mike
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WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
Anathema
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.... it's about ignorance & fear.
You may see it as ignorance and fear, but for many of us these ways of looking st the world are long-taught and staunchly held belief systems that we do not intend to give up any time soon.
nat4900
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WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
The above MORON and the bow-tie wimp, Carlson, have "concluded" that the very BEST way to defend the orange buffoon...... is to attack the Cuomo brothers???
"Brilliant"...........LMAO
LMAO
nat4900
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Carlson's television career has crashed and burned all Halloween orange so many times in the past decade—The Spin Room; Crossfire; Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered; Tucker—and on so many networks—CNN, PBS, MSNBC—is it any wonder that the Fox News Channel has given him another shot with another nighttime show, Tucker Carlson Tonight?
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Carlson's television career has crashed and burned all Halloween orange so many times in the past decade—The Spin Room; Crossfire; Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered; Tucker—and on so many networks—CNN, PBS, MSNBC—is it any wonder that the Fox News Channel has given him another shot with another nighttime show, Tucker Carlson Tonight?
You think he will get out of jail in 4 years?Charlie Manson and Ted Kennedy are talking in Hell right now. You have no moral high ground and never did. Trump's next four years should shut you up.There are THREE ways to interpret Mueller's report (with its Barr redactions)
LEGALLY........Trump cannot be indicted based on DOJ policy (NOT law)
POLITICALLY...........Trump is as guilty as OJ Simpson
MORALLY.........Trump is as guilty as
Lastamender
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WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
Carlson's television career has crashed and burned all Halloween orange so many times in the past decade—The Spin Room; Crossfire; Tucker Carlson: Unfiltered; Tucker—and on so many networks—CNN, PBS, MSNBC—is it any wonder that the Fox News Channel has given him another shot with another nighttime show, Tucker Carlson Tonight?
Carlson was liberal. True liberals are dead. CNN got rid of him because he would not follow their script. Stop lying, you waste of skin.
CrusaderFrank
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No collusion!WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
No collusion!
No collusion!!
Rustic
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WHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
Rustic
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... and still no Russian connectionWHERE......for sanity sake......do you Trump acolytes that Trump was EXONERATED by the Mueller report???
Seriously, you can say that Barr "exonerated" Trump
You can say that Trump, exonerated Trump
You can say that KellyAnn has exonerated Trump
You can say that Hannity has exonerated Trump
BUT, when you state that Mueller has exonerated Trump you are either a fucking idiot.....You did not read the redacted report, or you're beyond sanity in discussing this issue...
READ THE DAMN REPORT and you CANNOT conclude that Mueller "exonerated" Trump.......
READ, COMPREHEND and LEARN, for God's sake.
CrusaderFrank
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There are THREE ways to interpret Mueller's report (with its Barr redactions)
LEGALLY........Trump cannot be indicted based on DOJ policy (NOT law)
POLITICALLY...........Trump is as guilty as OJ Simpson
MORALLY.........Trump is as guilty as Charlie Manson
Poor Jake
This is as bad as the Election Eve meltdown
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