SeveN Fired Coaches and not One Team That can Use Tebow?

[JimBowie1958]

I posted his rankings in relevant passing statistics in his only year as a starter. None, not a single one, was in the top 46 in the league. For example, his passer rating of 72.9 was 57th in the league. Even if you remove all the players who had fewer than 25 pass attempts, he's 39th in the league. But here you are touting his stats as having been incredibly good.

His religious beliefs or lack thereof have nothing to do with the statistical facts.

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.

Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.

Which of those QBs did not score at all during their last season?

Which of those QB's longest pass of the season was a whopping 23 yards?

LOl, idiot, the comparison is among the QBs at the same time in their careers. There is no third years stats for these guys because no one was stupid enough to keep them on the bench like the Jets did Tebow.

You keep wanting to compare apples to oranges, because you don't understand the game, moron.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Any team that signs Tebow gets a lot more than just a shitty backup QB, they also get the circus of sideshow freaks that follows him everywhere he goes. It doesn't take a conspiracy or any collusion for most teams to conclude (independently) it's simply not worth it.

They get a QB with an 84.5 rating in his last year, who led his team to a first round victory in the play offs and whom other QBs who have reviewed his passing say he is a very good passer now.

You are simply lying about all this; why all the hate for a young QB like this?

Because he doesn't have a felony record? lol

He had an 84.5 rating because he only threw 8 passes and completed 6 of them. That is a good average, but crappy production.

A better way to describe his last year as an NFL QB is that he passed for a grand total of 39 yards, with no TDs at all. Does that sound like someone you want taking the helm?

You are simply being dishonest by using his ratings, when the actual production is far worse. He threw 8 passed, completed 6 with the longest pass being 23 yards.

FACTS:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[JimBowie1958]

This is what I am talking about; why the overt hatred for this guy?

His 84.5 rating from his last year and 75% completion average is NOT an easy thing to do in the pros ESPECIALLY when you only get a dozen snaps or so.

But they is totally ignored by haters like yourself, no, Tebow is shitty, shitty, shitty, shitty, no matter WHAT he does, lol.

You guys have something deeply flawed in your character to find so much pleasure in hating an innocent young person like this.

Would it help if he shot a cop or something? roflmao

Once again....there were multiple non-quarterbacks with a better QB rating than Tebow last year. If it's so hard to have a high completion % or rating with a low number of attempts, why were those at the top of the list the ones with the fewest attempts?

An 84.5 rating on 8 pass attempts is basically meaningless. A 120 rating would be meaningless. A 20 rating would be meaningless. It is not a large enough sample size to make a judgement on.

What is meaningful is that the New York Jets spent a year trying to work Tebow into their offense and couldn't do it.

Tebow with his "85" rating couldn't beat out Sanchez?

The Jet coaching that year is well known to been complete buffoons, and they never tried to get Tebow to start, liar.

But here are the facts once again:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[JimBowie1958]

So what, SF should bench Smith and start Akers as QB?

Bullshit, at lest six professional quarterbacks say Tebow should be given a shot.

What makes your opinion from a desk top better than the opinions of the pros who have watched him first hand?

Take a look at the last QB to vouch for Tebow

Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

you are being ridiculous.

What makes your opinion from a desktop better than the talent evaluators of 32 NFL teams who have decided to pass on Tebow?

If you looked at Tebow's rankings in his one year as a starter, without knowing what player you were seeing, I feel confident you would agree that he was unlikely to keep an NFL job. It is only because it is Tebow that you can look at his stats, terrible as they were, and think they are indicative he deserves yet another shot.

I don't care if Trent Dilfer thinks Tebow should get another chance. Dilfer was never a great QB and he is now a tv analyst. When he becomes a talent scout for the NFL or a team's GM, then talk to me.

Dilfer is one of those born again..again Christian brainwashed in the blood morons. He isn't objective. If Trento believes his Jeebus freak buddy needs a job let him step up and give him his.

Thank you for being honest with your antichristian hatred and bigotry, ass hole.

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[WinterBorn]

Once again....there were multiple non-quarterbacks with a better QB rating than Tebow last year. If it's so hard to have a high completion % or rating with a low number of attempts, why were those at the top of the list the ones with the fewest attempts?

An 84.5 rating on 8 pass attempts is basically meaningless. A 120 rating would be meaningless. A 20 rating would be meaningless. It is not a large enough sample size to make a judgement on.

What is meaningful is that the New York Jets spent a year trying to work Tebow into their offense and couldn't do it.

Tebow with his "85" rating couldn't beat out Sanchez?

The Jet coaching that year is well known to been complete buffoons, and they never tried to get Tebow to start, liar.

But here are the facts once again:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.

Peyton Manning threw for 28 TDs his first season. Drew Brees played one game his first season, and then threw for 17 TDs his second season.

Tebow has 17 passing TDs for his entire career.

He is not good in comparison to other legendary QBs. They scored points and won games.

 

[JimBowie1958]

What is meaningful is that the New York Jets spent a year trying to work Tebow into their offense and couldn't do it.

Tebow with his "85" rating couldn't beat out Sanchez?

The Jet coaching that year is well known to been complete buffoons, and they never tried to get Tebow to start, liar.

But here are the facts once again:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.

Peyton Manning threw for 28 TDs his first season. Drew Brees played one game his first season, and then threw for 17 TDs his second season.

Tebow has 17 passing TDs for his entire career.

He is not good in comparison to other legendary QBs. They scored points and won games.

lol, because they got the starts, idiot.

roflmao

 

[WinterBorn]

The Jet coaching that year is well known to been complete buffoons, and they never tried to get Tebow to start, liar.

But here are the facts once again:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, secondyear as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.

Peyton Manning threw for 28 TDs his first season. Drew Brees played one game his first season, and then threw for 17 TDs his second season.

Tebow has 17 passing TDs for his entire career.

He is not good in comparison to other legendary QBs. They scored points and won games.

lol, because they got the starts, idiot.

roflmao

Because the people who are the best in the game saw that they were worth giving starts. The people who didn't give Tebow starts obviously know more about it than you do. Their livelihood depends on winning. They would start anyone that they thought would win games.

 

[WinterBorn]

You know Jim, you are so hung up on the idea that Tebow is blackballed only because of his religious beliefs. And yet, in a civil discussion, you have called me rude names over and over and over. Perhaps if you had Tebow's beliefs you would be a better person. I, at least, am capable of having a discussion without name-calling. Pity you aren't.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Peyton Manning threw for 28 TDs his first season. Drew Brees played one game his first season, and then threw for 17 TDs his second season.

Tebow has 17 passing TDs for his entire career.

He is not good in comparison to other legendary QBs. They scored points and won games.

lol, because they got the starts, idiot.

roflmao

Because the people who are the best in the game saw that they were worth giving starts. The people who didn't give Tebow starts obviously know more about it than you do. Their livelihood depends on winning. They would start anyone that they thought would win games.

Your view of the Jets coaching staff is strikingly at odds with Jets fans and most NFL watchers, again supporting the observation that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about, shit-for-brains.

Now, for some real facts:


Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3

wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for

first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth

year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0,

career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of

42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for

first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating

under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, second year as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[WinterBorn]

But all those legendary QBs played on and on. Whereas Tebow is doomed to be a has-been.

Your arguments ignore the facts, but I can see your hero worship has taken over your common sense.

First you claim that Tebow has been blackballed because he is a Christian, and anyone who disagrees is a Christian-hater. Of course, the only reason you think they are Christian-haters is because they don't agree with your hero worship of Tim Tebow.

I do not hate Christians. But I do know that once the defense figures Tebow out they make him look really, really bad. Look at his last appearance against the Crimson Tide in the SEC Championship. Tebow was lost and cost FL the game.

But what most people remember from that game is Tebow crying on the sidelines. Did you ever see the video out there that showed Tebow crying with a dubbed voice that sounded a LOT like Tom Hanks saying "There's no crying in football"?

 

[JimBowie1958]

You know Jim, you are so hung up on the idea that Tebow is blackballed only because of his religious beliefs. And yet, in a civil discussion, you have called me rude names over and over and over. Perhaps if you had Tebow's beliefs you would be a better person. I, at least, am capable of having a discussion without name-calling. Pity you aren't.

That is the point, idiot, I don't have Tebows beliefs, but I do think he is getting fucked due to his beliefs. That should outrage you but it doesn't for some reason. Maybe you are a fascist, I don't fucking know, and I don't care.

You are totally wrong on this topic, but you seem to think its all just a game, but it is not. People are being forced to knuckle down and that outrages me.

Shame it doesn't bother you too, but then again, you are an idiot.

 

[JimBowie1958]

But all those legendary QBs played on and on. Whereas Tebow is doomed to be a has-been.

Why is he doomed, ass hat? His stats are good for a one year starter, and I thought you said the NFL only wants to win? Lol, no, they want to keep their jobs and they know that these fascists can kill their careers. So the NFL is filled with cowards and ass hats just like you.

Your arguments ignore the facts, but I can see your hero worship has taken over your common sense.

Lol, I am quoting the facts over and over and you simply ignore the ones that don't fit your hatred of Tebow.

First you claim that Tebow has been blackballed because he is a Christian, and anyone who disagrees is a Christian-hater.

No, that is not what I said, but then again, an idiot like you getting it wrong is hardly surprising.

I do not hate Christians.

Your hatred is easy to spot, no point in hiding it, idiot.

But back to the facts:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3

wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for

first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth

year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0,

career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of

42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for

first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating

under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-

Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, second year as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating.
Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
Evaluating Tebow's Progress - ESPN Video - ESPN

Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[WinterBorn]

You know Jim, you are so hung up on the idea that Tebow is blackballed only because of his religious beliefs. And yet, in a civil discussion, you have called me rude names over and over and over. Perhaps if you had Tebow's beliefs you would be a better person. I, at least, am capable of having a discussion without name-calling. Pity you aren't.

That is the point, idiot, I don't have Tebows beliefs, but I do think he is getting fucked due to his beliefs. That should outrage you but it doesn't for some reason. Maybe you are a fascist, I don't fucking know, and I don't care.

You are totally wrong on this topic, but you seem to think its all just a game, but it is not. People are being forced to knuckle down and that outrages me.

Shame it doesn't bother you too, but then again, you are an idiot.

Oh yeah, it is a tragedy that a millionaire is not allowed to play professional football. That breaks my heart!

Nevermind that people are starving, losing their homes, unable to marry the person they love, unable to get medical care, being screwed by an archaic tax system, dying overseas in wars for no reason, and unable to afford a decent education. Let's all get upset that the millionaire doesn't get a few more chances to play in the NFL.

Spare me all that bullshit.

 

[WinterBorn]

The fun part is that, while you insist you are right and I am wrong, the people who have the knowledge and the power agree with me.

So long, Timmy! Enjoy the booth!

 

[JimBowie1958]

You know Jim, you are so hung up on the idea that Tebow is blackballed only because of his religious beliefs. And yet, in a civil discussion, you have called me rude names over and over and over. Perhaps if you had Tebow's beliefs you would be a better person. I, at least, am capable of having a discussion without name-calling. Pity you aren't.

That is the point, idiot, I don't have Tebows beliefs, but I do think he is getting fucked due to his beliefs. That should outrage you but it doesn't for some reason. Maybe you are a fascist, I don't fucking know, and I don't care.

You are totally wrong on this topic, but you seem to think its all just a game, but it is not. People are being forced to knuckle down and that outrages me.

Shame it doesn't bother you too, but then again, you are an idiot.

Oh yeah, it is a tragedy that a millionaire is not allowed to play professional football. That breaks my heart!

Nevermind that people are starving, losing their homes, unable to marry the person they love, unable to get medical care, being screwed by an archaic tax system, dying overseas in wars for no reason, and unable to afford a decent education. Let's all get upset that the millionaire doesn't get a few more chances to play in the NFL.

Spare me all that bullshit.

Yeah, because discrimination is so funny when it is targeted at outspoken Christians.

Spare me your hypocrisy, smart ass little bitch.

BTW, it is hilarious that you don't see the tautology you keep making regarding Tebows passing stats because you are too damned stupid, lol.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The fun part is that, while you insist you are right and I am wrong, the people who have the knowledge and the power agree with me.

So long, Timmy! Enjoy the booth!

Lol, yeah, the pro QBs and trainers that have evaluated Tebow all say he is a good QB, but you know better because you presume the NFL doesn't make mistakes like ignoring good players till someone makes them shine.

Again, yes, you are an idiot and do not comprehend the game, moron.

But one last attempt to ejumicate you:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football - Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, second year as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating. Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
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Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ng-passing-records-vs-the-pittsburgh-steelers

 

[WinterBorn]

That is the point, idiot, I don't have Tebows beliefs, but I do think he is getting fucked due to his beliefs. That should outrage you but it doesn't for some reason. Maybe you are a fascist, I don't fucking know, and I don't care.

You are totally wrong on this topic, but you seem to think its all just a game, but it is not. People are being forced to knuckle down and that outrages me.

Shame it doesn't bother you too, but then again, you are an idiot.

Oh yeah, it is a tragedy that a millionaire is not allowed to play professional football. That breaks my heart!

Nevermind that people are starving, losing their homes, unable to marry the person they love, unable to get medical care, being screwed by an archaic tax system, dying overseas in wars for no reason, and unable to afford a decent education. Let's all get upset that the millionaire doesn't get a few more chances to play in the NFL.

Spare me all that bullshit.

Yeah, because discrimination is so funny when it is targeted at outspoken Christians.

Spare me your hypocrisy, smart ass little bitch.

BTW, it is hilarious that you don't see the tautology you keep making regarding Tebows passing stats because you are too damned stupid, lol.

You ignorant little fanboy. Tebow stats are not great. They are not even good. He did ok against teams with losing records and got creamed by the good teams.

There is no discrimination. Tebow got his shot and didn't make it. It happens all the time. He was always questionable as a pro QB. Now the questions have been answered.

You claim he is better now and that his mechanics have been fixed. Its too late. He had his shot and didn't make it. I don't see any discrimination. Your claims are ridiculous.

But you keep claiming it if it helps you sleep better at night when you can dream about ol' Timmy. I'm sure he'll let you be in his fan club and you can sleep with his picture under your pillow.

 

[GHook93]

I don't think Tebow is very good. But he definitely seems to be getting Kluwe'd a.k.a. blackballed.

I don't think Tebow was that good, but if Rex Grossman and Kyle Orton could fine jobs as back ups, certainly Tebow should be able to.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Oh yeah, it is a tragedy that a millionaire is not allowed to play professional football. That breaks my heart!

Nevermind that people are starving, losing their homes, unable to marry the person they love, unable to get medical care, being screwed by an archaic tax system, dying overseas in wars for no reason, and unable to afford a decent education. Let's all get upset that the millionaire doesn't get a few more chances to play in the NFL.

Spare me all that bullshit.

Yeah, because discrimination is so funny when it is targeted at outspoken Christians.

Spare me your hypocrisy, smart ass little bitch.

BTW, it is hilarious that you don't see the tautology you keep making regarding Tebows passing stats because you are too damned stupid, lol.

You ignorant little fanboy.

From an ignoramus like you that is hilarious.

Tebow stats are not great. They are not even good.

They are fine for a first year starting QB, and that you keep ignoring this relevant fact shows your bias and stupidity.

He did ok against teams with losing records and got creamed by the good teams.

Yeah, like the Steelers, roflmao. idiot

There is no discrimination.

Yes, cause the mighty and omniscient Stillborn says so!

lol, fuck you dumbass.

Tebow got his shot and didn't make it. It happens all the time.

No, he did make it, stupid shit, got the starting job at Denver, traded to New York where he continued to improve.

The rest of you post is just stupid bullshit, so I am not even going to repost it.

But the relevant facts here are the following:

Peyton Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football - Reference.com
Peyton Manning, first year as a starter, 1998 threw 28 interceptions and a QB rating of 71.2. Completion % 56.7%, and only 3 wins

Drew Brees NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Drew Brees, first year stating record, QB rating of 76.9, second year 67.5. completion % 60.8, 57.6 second year as starter.

John Elway NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
John Elway, first year starter, QB rating 54.9, completion% 47.5%, 4 wins. Didnt get over 60% completion percentage for first ten years as a starter, failed to get a QB rating higher than 80 for first four years, getting an 83.4 his fifth year, followed by five more years with a sub80 QB rating.

Johnny Unitas NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Johny Unitas, QB legend, never had a completion percentage over 60%, 54% for his career, first year QB rating was 74.0, career QB ratinf of 78.2, won 3 games first year.

Tom Brady NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tom Brady, first year as starter (second year in NFL) comp 63.9%, QB rating 86.5. 1st year in NFL, comp 33% and QB rating of 42.4

Eli Manning NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Eli Manning, Super bowl champion QB, first year start QB rating 55.4, comp 48.2%, did not get QB rating higher than 80 for first five years, same goes for his completion % staying south of 60% for first four years.

Warren Moon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Warren Moon, first year as starter, comp% 57.6 QBR 76.9, completion %s stayed below 60 foir first five years, QB rating under 80 for first four.

Tim Tebow NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
Tebow, first year as starter, comp% 46.5, QB rating 72.9, second year as backup QB 75% completion % and 84.9 QB rating. Tebow is very good in comparison to other legendary QBs for the same point in their careers, dude.


Latest review of Tebows passing skill
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Review of his play off performance vrs the steelers.
Tim Tebow by the Numbers: Breaking Passing Records vs the Pittsburgh Steelers | Bleacher Report

 

[WinterBorn]

The relevant facts are that he only won against sub .500 teams. His only year with a decent rating he only threw 8 passes and scored 0 points.

Yeah, he got his chance and didn't make the grade.

Is he improving? That doesn't matter. The NFL is where the best go to play, not to learn to play.

It is not discrimination. It is decisions based on what is best to win and what is best for the team. NFL teams will go to great lengths for someone they think will help them. So obviously none of the people in charge of the NFL teams think Tebow is the answer for their team.

Accept it. Tebow is done playing in the NFL. But you will still be able to see your hero when he is announcing games, like the rest who can't play anymore.