seven stats on climate change

[SSDD]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The further back you go, the deeper you get into the ice age that the earth is presently trying to warm out of. Cold oceans hold more CO2 than warm oceans, and cold climate depress the earth's own CO2 making machinery. As the earth warms, its own CO2 making machinery kicks into a higher gear, and warmer oceans outgas more CO2.

If that chart went back to the period prior to the onset of the present ice age, you would see atmospheric CO2 levels at the time that the earth started cooling into the ice age of about 1000ppm...more than twice the present level.

Climate sceince likes to show you just enough to make you think things have always been a certain way...they never show you the real long term trend. The fact is that by historical standards, our 400ppm indicates a CO2 drought in the earth's atmosphere. Rarely has it ever been this low in the entirety of earth's history.

 

[Redfish]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

 

[Redfish]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The further back you go, the deeper you get into the ice age that the earth is presently trying to warm out of. Cold oceans hold more CO2 than warm oceans, and cold climate depress the earth's own CO2 making machinery. As the earth warms, its own CO2 making machinery kicks into a higher gear, and warmer oceans outgas more CO2.

If that chart went back to the period prior to the onset of the present ice age, you would see atmospheric CO2 levels at the time that the earth started cooling into the ice age of about 1000ppm...more than twice the present level.

Climate sceince likes to show you just enough to make you think things have always been a certain way...they never show you the real long term trend. The fact is that by historical standards, our 400ppm indicates a CO2 drought in the earth's atmosphere. Rarely has it ever been this low in the entirety of earth's history.

this is not about facts or science. Its about a religion that says that humans are evil and must be removed from mother earth in order for her to survive. Its a form of mental disease.

you cannot argue facts with indoctrinated idiots.

 

[ReinyDays]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

The first problem is the vertical scale is deceptively truncated ... 160-480 ppm instead of a more honest zero point ... the second problem is the horizontal scale is too short, instead of a million years it should be 500 million years, which requires the vertical scale to expand to closer to 4,000 ppm ...

See ... do you think this is better with these corrections? ...

 

[georgephillip]

If that chart went back to the period prior to the onset of the present ice age, you would see atmospheric CO2 levels at the time that the earth started cooling into the ice age of about 1000ppm...more than twice the present level

"Prior to the onset of the present ice" age means before the existence of human beings?

History of the world - Wikipedia

 

[Sunsettommy]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Notice that you left this part out:

This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Luthi, D., et al.. 2008; Etheridge, D.M., et al. 2010; Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.) Find out more about ice cores (external site).

NASA doesn't say it out loud, but grafting YEARLY CO2 values onto a much lower resolution proxy values is scientific malpractice.

Misleading and dishonest.

 

[ReinyDays]

Humans have been around for about 300,000 years ... the current ice age started about 30 million years ago ... the coal beds were laid down about 300 million years ago ...

Wikipedia is using the wrong terminology in that article ... should read "the most recent glaciation" ... this thread is about climatology, not anthropology, the time scales are very different ... if you want to use the term "ice age", I'm fine with that, we all know what you're talking about ... but if you want to quibble about it, you'll be wrong ...

Your link in post #260 touches upon a number of different effects that are predicted ... all of them can be easily dismissed and have been throughout this Environment Forum ... so the simple answer to your question "How would you explain this?" is by applying basic physics ... force is equal to mass times acceleration ...

 

[bripat9643]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

 

[bripat9643]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Notice that you left this part out:

This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Luthi, D., et al.. 2008; Etheridge, D.M., et al. 2010; Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.) Find out more about ice cores (external site).

NASA doesn't say it out loud, but grafting YEARLY CO2 values onto a much lower resolution proxy values is scientific malpractice.

Misleading and dishonest.

BINGO!

 

[georgephillip]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

What explains the 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the last 70 years, particularly if atmospheric levels of that particular compound had been below that threshold for the last 800,000 years?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

In this link, there are seven statistics that demonstrate that we are already experiencing effects from AGW.

7 Numbers Show How Dire Climate Change Got This Decade | HuffPost

Too bad our President & his followers are too stupid to acknowledge its existence let alone take action.

Republicans are sacrificing their children's future to bow down to their orange god.

Wow....

That would make us like the moron lefties of the 30's that put S.S. in place and burdened us and our children for a lifetime.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

What explains the 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the last 70 years, particularly if atmospheric levels of that particular compound had been below that threshold for the last 800,000 years?

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[Sun Devil 92]

In this link, there are seven statistics that demonstrate that we are already experiencing effects from AGW.

7 Numbers Show How Dire Climate Change Got This Decade | HuffPost

Too bad our President & his followers are too stupid to acknowledge its existence let alone take action.

Republicans are sacrificing their children's future to bow down to their orange god.

And nothing will be done to adapt to the changes because people are too busy throwing poop back and forth arguing over the cause.

This issue should never have been made a political one.

Adapting is one thing, what the watermelons want is to use their method of government as the only way to "save" us.

I agree. That is the problem, and of course since they want that the other side has to claim nothing is happening at all.

The opposition is far more fragmented. Some say nothing is happening, others say natural variations override any man made changes. Still others say just engineer fixes to whatever changes happen.

Only one side is making the issue political as policy, the other side makes it political as a reaction.

And very little gets done to deal with the coming changes. And they are coming no matter what anyone says.

 

[georgephillip]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

he explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

Do you agree with this?

"The Earth's climate has changed throughout history.

"Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization.

"Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives."

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

 

[bripat9643]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

What explains the 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the last 70 years, particularly if atmospheric levels of that particular compound had been below that threshold for the last 800,000 years?

Only the average of several hundred years is below that level.

You didn't understand what I posted, did you?

 

[georgephillip]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Notice that you left this part out:

This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Luthi, D., et al.. 2008; Etheridge, D.M., et al. 2010; Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.) Find out more about ice cores (external site).

NASA doesn't say it out loud, but grafting YEARLY CO2 values onto a much lower resolution proxy values is scientific malpractice.

Misleading and dishonest.

NASA doesn't say it out loud, but grafting YEARLY CO2 values onto a much lower resolution proxy values is scientific malpractice.

Misleading and dishonest.

What's misleading and/or dishonest about the following?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is extremely likely (greater than 95 percent probability) to be the result of human activity since the mid-20th century and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented over decades to millennia.1

"Earth-orbiting satellites and other technological advances have enabled scientists to see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate on a global scale.

"This body of data, collected over many years, reveals the signals of a changing climate.

"The heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases was demonstrated in the mid-19th century.2

"Their ability to affect the transfer of infrared energy through the atmosphere is the scientific basis of many instruments flown by NASA.

"There is no question that increased levels of greenhouse gases must cause the Earth to warm in response."

 

[georgephillip]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

the explanation: NASA has an agenda, they are part of the AGW religion that is trying to tell us all how to live our lives. fuck em!

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

The explanation is that every point on that graph, except for the last century, has a resolution of hundreds of years. if you had a data point for every year of the graph, there would be many peaks and valleys at least as dramatic as the last one shown. It's one of the many tricks (lies) the warmist cult resorts to.

What explains the 100 ppm increase in CO2 over the last 70 years, particularly if atmospheric levels of that particular compound had been below that threshold for the last 800,000 years?

Only the average of several hundred years is below that level.

You didn't understand what I posted, did you?

Only the average of several hundred years is below that level.

You didn't understand what I posted, did you?

Not exactly.
Do you have a link explaining why you believe there would be wild swings in annual atmospheric CO2 levels over thousands of years?

 

[Billy_Bob]

How would you explain this?

Evidence | Facts – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

Notice that you left this part out:

This graph, based on the comparison of atmospheric samples contained in ice cores and more recent direct measurements, provides evidence that atmospheric CO2 has increased since the Industrial Revolution. (Credit: Luthi, D., et al.. 2008; Etheridge, D.M., et al. 2010; Vostok ice core data/J.R. Petit et al.; NOAA Mauna Loa CO2 record.) Find out more about ice cores (external site).

NASA doesn't say it out loud, but grafting YEARLY CO2 values onto a much lower resolution proxy values is scientific malpractice.

Misleading and dishonest.

They must have attended the Michael Mann school of deception...

 

[bluzman61]

In this link, there are seven statistics that demonstrate that we are already experiencing effects from AGW.

7 Numbers Show How Dire Climate Change Got This Decade | HuffPost

Too bad our President & his followers are too stupid to acknowledge its existence let alone take action.

Republicans are sacrificing their children's future to bow down to their orange god.

Hey, Dave, here's the deal - Climate Change = WEATHER. That's ALL you need to know, ya knucklehead.

 

[SSDD]

If that chart went back to the period prior to the onset of the present ice age, you would see atmospheric CO2 levels at the time that the earth started cooling into the ice age of about 1000ppm...more than twice the present level

"Prior to the onset of the present ice" age means before the existence of human beings?

History of the world - Wikipedia

And what difference do you think that makes. CO2 was naturally hihjer without us than it is with us...what do you think that means or proves?