CDZ Should Corporations and Big Donors Be Limited in Donations to Politics?

Should Corporate and Big Donors be limited in contributions?

  • Corporations ONLY should be banned from contributing

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • Corporations and Big Donors Should be Limited, not banned

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • There should be no limits at all on anyone

    Votes: 4 20.0%
  • Only foreign contributions should b e banned.

    Votes: 5 25.0%
  • Who cares? They're all crooks anyway.

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
the history of the "states" is one of bigotry and repression of individual rights.... hence troops being needed to integrate schools.
Wrong. The federal government exists due to the consent of the states and their people.
This is true -- the states have the power to dissolve the federal government, while the federal government can do no such thing to the states.
Yeah, this was tried with a civil war between the states.
:lol:
You clearly do not understand what I mean here.
I am not surprised.
yet the people
get it, the people versus the states? The federal constitution was vetted and ratified by conventions of the people in each state, not by state governments.
As I said: You do not understand what I mean here.
Thank you for proving it.
 
funny how there's no choice for "there shouldn't be any money in politics".

not surprising.
no money in politics or in elections?

We have a constitutionally protected right to petition our government. this equals spending money

and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better.

Hilarious!

Why?

lol, do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?



The government is going to spend close to $3.5 trillion this year.
You want to reduce money spent on elections, you have to reduce the incentive.
Cut government spending by a couple of trillion.

do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?


Libtards don't, but I'm to the right of Attila the Hun.
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!

"GTP"
obama-lying.jpg
 
Billionaires bankrolling 2016 campaign to unprecedented degree Fox News

"Billionaires are bankrolling the early days of the 2016 presidential campaign to an unprecedented degree, with at least 40 of the wealthiest Americans plowing $60 million into super PACs aligned with the top tier of candidates.

The torrent of super PAC money is revolutionizing presidential politics in the wake of a 2010 Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to unlimited contributions from corporations, unions and individuals into these outside groups.

Super PACs backing 17 presidential candidates raised more than $250 million in the first six months of this year, roughly doubling the $125 million raised by the candidates for their campaigns, disclosure reports filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission show."


This is stupid. Corporations and the wealthy elites are trying to buy our elections.

funny how there's no choice for "there shouldn't be any money in politics".

not surprising.
no money in politics or in elections?

We have a constitutionally protected right to petition our government. this equals spending money

and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

because that would exclude people who can't afford cable from the process.

I agree about campaigning. But that limits the reach of your candidate. We live in a country of millions of people. Access to them is important and their access to information is important.
 
Billionaires bankrolling 2016 campaign to unprecedented degree Fox News

"Billionaires are bankrolling the early days of the 2016 presidential campaign to an unprecedented degree, with at least 40 of the wealthiest Americans plowing $60 million into super PACs aligned with the top tier of candidates.

The torrent of super PAC money is revolutionizing presidential politics in the wake of a 2010 Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to unlimited contributions from corporations, unions and individuals into these outside groups.

Super PACs backing 17 presidential candidates raised more than $250 million in the first six months of this year, roughly doubling the $125 million raised by the candidates for their campaigns, disclosure reports filed Friday with the Federal Election Commission show."


This is stupid. Corporations and the wealthy elites are trying to buy our elections.

funny how there's no choice for "there shouldn't be any money in politics".

not surprising.
no money in politics or in elections?

We have a constitutionally protected right to petition our government. this equals spending money

and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better.

Hilarious!

how so?

I see citizens united as the worst court decision since dred scott
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!
"GTP"
View attachment 47039
quiet, loon.
the worst president in MY LIFETIME was baby bush. I don't know what planet YOU live on. :cuckoo:
You were born in 2001?
Yeah, that sound about right.
:lol:
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!
"GTP"
View attachment 47039
quiet, loon.
the worst president in MY LIFETIME was baby bush. I don't know what planet YOU live on. :cuckoo:
You were born in 2001?
Yeah, that sound about right.
:lol:

no, wackjob. but thanks for once again failing to impress.
 
no money in politics or in elections?

We have a constitutionally protected right to petition our government. this equals spending money

and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better.

Hilarious!

Why?

lol, do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?



The government is going to spend close to $3.5 trillion this year.
You want to reduce money spent on elections, you have to reduce the incentive.
Cut government spending by a couple of trillion.

do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?


Libtards don't, but I'm to the right of Attila the Hun.

amusing little exchange. i'll have to tell bill gates he doesn't know how to think for himself. apparently neither does warren buffet.

*shakes head and laughs at the wingerness of your statement*
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!
"GTP"
View attachment 47039
quiet, loon.
the worst president in MY LIFETIME was baby bush. I don't know what planet YOU live on. :cuckoo:
You were born in 2001?
Yeah, that sound about right.
:lol:
no, wackjob. but thanks for once again failing to impress....
...she says, unwittingly proving my point better than I ever could.
:lol:
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!
"GTP"
View attachment 47039
quiet, loon.
the worst president in MY LIFETIME was baby bush. I don't know what planet YOU live on. :cuckoo:
You were born in 2001?
Yeah, that sound about right.
:lol:
no, wackjob. but thanks for once again failing to impress....
...she says, unwittingly proving my point better than I ever could.
:lol:

okie dokie, loon. :cuckoo:
 
Yo, this is America Obama, if you don`t like it? Leave loser!!! I say, spend, spend, spend!!! We are a FREE COUNTRY, not China! About using Jimmy Carter for anything? He and Obama are battling it out for the worst President ever!!!
"GTP"
View attachment 47039
quiet, loon.
the worst president in MY LIFETIME was baby bush. I don't know what planet YOU live on. :cuckoo:
You were born in 2001?
Yeah, that sound about right.
:lol:
no, wackjob. but thanks for once again failing to impress....
...she says, unwittingly proving my point better than I ever could.
:lol:
okie dokie, loon. :cuckoo:
Thank you. Please continue at your leisure.
 
the history of the "states" is one of bigotry and repression of individual rights.... hence troops being needed to integrate schools.

Wrong. The federal government exists due to the consent of the states and their people.

federal laws trump state laws if they are in conflict.

True, but that has nothing to do with an Article V convention. Have you read up on that?

you should probably get over it. because loony is what comes from the radicals in the "states".

And you are stereotyping millions of people as loons for simply advocating a Constitutional right?

Does that make you a loon, a hater, or just out of the loop?

fact (thank you jillian ): the history of the "states" is one of bigotry and repression of individual rights

This is WHY the people who ratified the US Constitution gave the power of 'trumping' rightsto the national government over that of the individual states

No, they didn't, which is why they wrote Article V in the Constitution, dude.
 
funny how there's no choice for "there shouldn't be any money in politics".

not surprising.
no money in politics or in elections?

We have a constitutionally protected right to petition our government. this equals spending money

and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better.

Hilarious!

how so?

I see citizens united as the worst court decision since dred scott

Libs don't like it because now the unions have competition.
 
Former Justice Stevens has one rational solution which is about an amendment stating in regards to the first amendment, money is not to be confused with speech. The laws on campaign finance reform were all about limiting money, not taking it out. Public funding is not taking money out either.

Obviously some money is required to pay people to set up the booths, etc.

I am talking about getting all the Big Corporate money out of the process and limiting the money to issue advocacy and tax payers voluntarily contributing to a shared fund that candidates get equal access to if they have the required petition submissions..
 
and we should petition our government. that is separate from the desire to fund someone's candidacy. I think there should be a certain amount of money given to each candidate by the government once they obtain a base-level of signatures getting them on the ballot. I don't think that a few billionaires should fund their candidate of choice and I don't think that a candidate, once elected, should be beholden to the interests that paid for him or her to get elected.

as for petitioning one's government, i'm all for it. but I think that means sign a petitioin, write a letter, protest, carry signs and march, etc. it doesn't mean put seven zeros after the 1 on the check you write.


Why not, instead of giving them X amount of money, just let them have free access to a cable network, say an hour a day that anyone could DVR and watch when they want?

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better. If you want to help your candidate do it the old fashioned way and wear some leather off your shoes hitting the pavement.

The more we purge money from the electoral process the better.

Hilarious!

Why?

lol, do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?



The government is going to spend close to $3.5 trillion this year.
You want to reduce money spent on elections, you have to reduce the incentive.
Cut government spending by a couple of trillion.

do you libtards ever actually think for yourselves?


Libtards don't, but I'm to the right of Attila the Hun.

amusing little exchange. i'll have to tell bill gates he doesn't know how to think for himself. apparently neither does warren buffet.

*shakes head and laughs at the wingerness of your statement*

Bill and Warren like to talk about raising tax rates on rich folks, while they work to make sure the government gets none of their billions after they die.
 
the history of the "states" is one of bigotry and repression of individual rights.... hence troops being needed to integrate schools.
Wrong. The federal government exists due to the consent of the states and their people.
This is true -- the states have the power to dissolve the federal government, while the federal government can do no such thing to the states.
Yeah, this was tried with a civil war between the states.
:lol:
You clearly do not understand what I mean here.
I am not surprised.
yet the people


get it, the people versus the states? The federal constitution was vetted and ratified by conventions of the people in each state, not by state governments.


The state congresses that ratified the Constitution and its first ten amendments are not the state governments in your view?

roflmao
 
Wrong. The federal government exists due to the consent of the states and their people.
This is true -- the states have the power to dissolve the federal government, while the federal government can do no such thing to the states.
Yeah, this was tried with a civil war between the states.
:lol:
You clearly do not understand what I mean here.
I am not surprised.
yet the people
get it, the people versus the states? The federal constitution was vetted and ratified by conventions of the people in each state, not by state governments.
As I said: You do not understand what I mean here.
Thank you for proving it.

It actually appears that you are woefully ignorant (not an insult when one uses a dictionary) on American history. That said, you are entitled to you very own opinions no matter what they are or are not based on
 

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