Should OceanGate now be sued because of negligence?

[JoeB131]

Chauvin will be appealing soon and getting out free on appeal. He did nothing wrong and was framed.

You keep telling yourself that, buddy.

Meanwhile, in the REAL WORLD

Ex-officer Derek Chauvin loses appeal for a new trial in the murder of George Floyd

A Minnesota appeals court Monday upheld former officer Derek Chauvin's conviction for the murder of George Floyd in 2020.

www.usatoday.com

A three-judge panel unanimously upheld Chauvin's conviction Monday.

"Police officers undoubtedly have a challenging, difficult and sometimes dangerous job," Presiding Judge Peter Reyes wrote in the 50-page decision. "However, no one is above the law. When they commit a crime, they must be held accountable just as those individuals that they lawfully apprehend. The law only permits police officers to use reasonable force when effecting a lawful arrest. Chauvin crossed that line here when he used unreasonable force on Floyd."

Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, the lead prosecutor in the case, said in a statement he was grateful for the court's decision.

"Today, my thoughts are today with the family of George Floyd and the communities that have suffered because of his death," Ellison said. "We cannot bring Floyd back, but I hope today’s decision brings another measure of justice."

 

[whitehall]

The next of kin might sue the company despite the legal waivers that the adrenalin junkies no doubt signed but it ain't up for public discourse at this time.

 

[justoffal]

Sorry edited the post, the view port was rated at 1,300 meters but they were descending to 4,000 meters.

Yes.... But after 14 dives the massive pressure exposure changes the nature of the material.... The flexing and forcing in and out creates networks of micro-cracks.
That's why inspections are needed frequently. Hell the military subs won't go deeper than 1500 feet...if they accidentally do they have to go back to port immediately for mandatory structural inspections.

 

[toobfreak]

the view port was rated at 1,300 meters

And they were heading 3X deeper. Seems that is just about where the thing popped. Helluva way to die.

 

[toobfreak]

A three-judge panel unanimously upheld Chauvin's conviction Monday.

The guy was railroaded just to appease the jungle bunnies.

 

[JoeB131]

The guy was railroaded just to appease the jungle bunnies.

Yes, it's just impossible for you to believe that someone who put his knee to a man's neck for 9 minutes while he begged for his life is guilty of anything.

 

[Dekster]

Unless it can be shown the company did something illegal that contributed to the accident, at that point the waiver becomes worthless because you can't contract to indemnify yourself from an illegal act on your part.

Usually there has to be some degree of informed consent. If the company did not disclose to the passengers all the issues that they had in the past or in any way induced their consent with representations about it being "safe", then that waiver might not be worth the paper it is written on as to at least 3 of the dead. Just boilerplate "you could die" generally won't cut it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The owner supposedly said they cut corners on safety. They were warned several times. If these are true they should / will be sued, although I am not sured if the occipants signed waivers and if so if that will prevent the law suits.

Its pretty safe to say no one is going to go on any future trips with these guys. Their business is done.


If it survives it will have to close down, change the name, & reopen under another name to get away from this.

The owner was one of the deceased.

 

[BertramN]

Should OceanGate now be sued because of negligence?

Who involved in the design, building, and/or operation of the tourist submersible has/have the deep pocket(s)? No one? If so, lawsuits are a waste of time.





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[Zebra]

• Total voters 11

6 x yes
4 x no

 

[Zebra]

It should be sued ....

 

[22lcidw]

The improvements already exist but if you don't use them then they may as well not exist.

It does not work that way. To build something that prices you out of the reason to do so, is a dead end. Of course, this is a deep ocean vehicle. We have spent little compared to space on this. Government can start difficult enterprises then needs to give way. With space they let some of it go however are still too slow to do so. The hard work was done in the 1960's. The oceans though have so much to be explored if we can conquer the depth pressures.

 

[Mac-7]

Liberal diversity pricks all over America should be sued for promoting incompetent people based on sex or color

 

[lennypartiv]

The Release that people have to sign before the "trip" is pretty clear: You're taking your life in your hands.
So that's about it.

But if the vessel was not built to go to the depth of the Titanic wreck, the plaintiffs have a case. Obviously "expert" witnesses will be called.