Should we "fact-check" the Trump SOTU???

nat4900

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It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
 
It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
Yup, you caught him.

IMPEACH THE BASTARD!
 
It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
Looks like the "state of the USMB liars" is unchanged as expected.
 
It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.

Do you miss The Hag:


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It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.


Are you crying over it?
 
It has become a standard exercise in that after every SOTU delivery, many fact-checkers analyze statements for their accuracy, regardless of the cheering and applause that rhetoric and demagoguery inevitably receive.

So, here's one from last night:

TRUMP: "Just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history."

It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
Looks like the "state of the USMB liars" is unchanged as expected.

Yes mike, here you are claiming Trump didn’t lie.

He lied about the economy - job creation is slowing. More jobs were off-shored last year than in 2016, and the gains in black employment came under Obama, not Trump. The drop in the unemployment rate for blacks has slowed under a Trump.

It’s fairly pathetic that a rich white guy whose Daddy bought him admittance to an Ivy League school, is taking credit for the accomplishments of a black man raised by a single mother who conservatives claim was an affirmative action student.
 
Folks that hate Trump are just sore that the nation liked the speech.

Poll from the Clinton News Network. . . .

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It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
You need to learn the difference between boastful, subjective opinions and objective statements of fact.
 
Folks that hate Trump are just sore that the nation liked the speech.

Poll from the Clinton News Network. . . .

Screen-Shot-2018-01-31-at-12.06.33-AM-e1517381666402.jpg

Perspective is required here.

Less than half of State of the Union watchers have very positive view of Trump address - CNNPolitics

CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years
Washington (CNN)Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump's first State of the Union address -- 48% -- say they had a "very positive" impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama's rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

It's the lowest net positive rating for a State of the Union address since at least 1998, when CNN first asked the question. There is no equivalent poll for addresses before 1998.
 
Folks that hate Trump are just sore that the nation liked the speech.

Poll from the Clinton News Network. . . .

Screen-Shot-2018-01-31-at-12.06.33-AM-e1517381666402.jpg

People who don't know what's happening listen to a speech full of lies they don't know are lies. I mean, fuck, what's not to like?

Here's my speech, you'll love it as long as you don't know the truth.

"You're amazingly beautiful, there's $50 million in your bank account, your other half is a famous actor or actress, your kids are in the best schools and they're going to get the highest scores on the SAT EVER and then they're going to go to the best universities. You'll never get cancer or any other disease, neither will anyone in your family, everyone will live to 100 years and then die peacefully in their sleep. You'll have lots of time for holidays. Your life is amazing."

Who wouldn't love that? But it's a lie.
 
Folks that hate Trump are just sore that the nation liked the speech.

Poll from the Clinton News Network. . . .

Screen-Shot-2018-01-31-at-12.06.33-AM-e1517381666402.jpg

Perspective is required here.

Less than half of State of the Union watchers have very positive view of Trump address - CNNPolitics

CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years
Washington (CNN)Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump's first State of the Union address -- 48% -- say they had a "very positive" impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama's rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

It's the lowest net positive rating for a State of the Union address since at least 1998, when CNN first asked the question. There is no equivalent poll for addresses before 1998.
meh, thanks for that.

I'd have to agree. I didn't bother to watch or listen to it either. :04:
 
It is False that the tax-cut package passed in December is the largest cut ever, as Trump has repeatedly claimed. In inflation-adjusted dollars, the recent tax bill is the fourth-largest since 1940. And as a percentage of GDP, it ranks seventh.
You need to learn the difference between boastful, subjective opinions and objective statements of fact.


Actually don't you think Rump should learn the difference?
 
Folks that hate Trump are just sore that the nation liked the speech.

Poll from the Clinton News Network. . . .

Screen-Shot-2018-01-31-at-12.06.33-AM-e1517381666402.jpg

Perspective is required here.

Less than half of State of the Union watchers have very positive view of Trump address - CNNPolitics

CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years
Washington (CNN)Almost half of Americans who watched President Donald Trump's first State of the Union address -- 48% -- say they had a "very positive" impression of the speech, down from 57% of speech-watchers after his first address to match Barack Obama's rating after his first State of the Union address, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS.

It's the lowest net positive rating for a State of the Union address since at least 1998, when CNN first asked the question. There is no equivalent poll for addresses before 1998.
meh, thanks for that.

I'd have to agree. I didn't bother to watch or listen to it either. :04:

Meh, just showing that Trump's SOTU address wasn't exactly a rousing success.
 
What would be the point? He's told over 2,000 lies since he took office. He averages 5 lies a day. I'm pretty sure we can just assume it was a litany of lies.

Trump inaugurated 1/20/17
When he gave the SOTU 1/30/18
Means 375 days.
Average 5 per day would be 1,875 lies SO YOU LIED when you said "over 2,000"!
So maybe you are getting this false number from this fake headline.
Donald Trump says something that isn't true 5.5 times a day. Every day.
Donald Trump says something that isn't true 5.5 times a day. Every day. - CNNPolitics
But as people like you and CNN are prone to do exaggerate, here is how CNN came to that figure.
For example:
Trump also claimed the US has the highest corporate tax rate in the world 19 times. This is “misleading,” according to fact checkers.
NOTE it is NOT a LIE but comes from the IRS tax tables.
But here is why the MSM and idiots call it a lie....
There is a difference between the tax rate of 35 per cent corporate tax rate the US has on the books, which is the highest among developed countries, and the effective corporate tax rate - or what companies actually pay after legal deductions and tax breaks.
Donald Trump has made 1,628 false or misleading claims since becoming President

The United States cut the federal corporate tax rate to 21 percent from 35 percent from January 1st, 2018.
Corporate Tax Rate in the United States averaged 32.68 percent from 1909 until 2018,

United States Federal Corporate Tax Rate | 1909-2018 | Data | Chart
FACTS folks NOT LIES
 

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