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Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
Why not cut out other areas?
I agree...dont make it harder for the military to do the jobs.
Instead, enough with trying to make Americans as comfortable as possible.
We dont deserve it.
We need to earn it...ON OUR OWN.
Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
of course, it's ridiclous. idealogues often refuse to look at ramifications.
and notice, none of them said get out of iraq and afghanistan. but they want to cut...
cut what?
the same things they always want to cut so they can starve government until they can drown it in a bathtub.
notice also that not a single one said... raise income tax a couple of percentage points on people earning over a half million or even a million... or said tax estates over 6 million dollars.
this isn't about fiscal responsibility... it's about the 'ihategovernment' contingent.
they really live in a fantsy land
We're living in fantasyland right now with all of this do gooder social engineering government programs utopia lovefest for all and now we are broke. It's time to be responsible.
We are coming to a cliff. Either we raise the debt ceiling, reduce our deficit or default on our obligations. If we continue to raise our limit, it is meaningless and we haven't leaned anything. But likewise, it could be a catastrophe.
Should we make cuts right away and apply them to the deficit so we can show the world we are serious about our debt, ganing world confidence again? Negotiate cuts to pass them right away?
Or have a showdown in Congress and with the Administration? Or take the easy route and just increase the limit. Or a combination?
Let's debate.
Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
of course, it's ridiclous. idealogues often refuse to look at ramifications.
and notice, none of them said get out of iraq and afghanistan. but they want to cut...
cut what?
the same things they always want to cut so they can starve government until they can drown it in a bathtub.
notice also that not a single one said... raise income tax a couple of percentage points on people earning over a half million or even a million... or said tax estates over 6 million dollars.
this isn't about fiscal responsibility... it's about the 'ihategovernment' contingent.
you know i have respect for you, but the new deal programs that the reactionaries have hated since their inception have done great things. the attempt to eviscerate them is something most americans would never tolerate.
Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
Why not cut out other areas?
I agree...dont make it harder for the military to do the jobs.
Instead, enough with trying to make Americans as comfortable as possible.
We dont deserve it.
We need to earn it...ON OUR OWN.
Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
of course, it's ridiclous. idealogues often refuse to look at ramifications.
and notice, none of them said get out of iraq and afghanistan. but they want to cut...
cut what?
the same things they always want to cut so they can starve government until they can drown it in a bathtub.
notice also that not a single one said... raise income tax a couple of percentage points on people earning over a half million or even a million... or said tax estates over 6 million dollars.
this isn't about fiscal responsibility... it's about the 'ihategovernment' contingent.
Idealogues? Our social engineering in the name of do goodism, brought to us mainly by dems, has brought us to the precipice of disaster. It ain't just one idea that brought us to this carnival. You can throw in military spending too if you want but that's not the ultimate problem. They're both destroying us.
People form governments because collectively there are things that get done the indivdual can't do. And there's a social pact that comes along with that. Pay in and get benefits from that.
It's a supremely simple principle I don't think conservatives get. Whatsoever.
Why are conservatives so crazy?
We have troops in the field involved in multiple actions. Not raising the ceiling is going to hurt them, and hurt them big.
I didn't and don't agree on the extent of the military actions. But I am pretty damned angry that anyone wants to play chicken when it involves our brave young people that are fighting for our country.
This is a ridiculous thing to do.
Why not cut out other areas?
I agree...dont make it harder for the military to do the jobs.
Instead, enough with trying to make Americans as comfortable as possible.
We dont deserve it.
We need to earn it...ON OUR OWN.
What the heck are you talking about? Why do you think people form governments in the first place? To be "uncomfortable"? Absolutely not.
People form governments because collectively there are things that get done the indivdual can't do. And there's a social pact that comes along with that. Pay in and get benefits from that.
It's a supremely simple principle I don't think conservatives get. Whatsoever.
Why not cut out other areas?
I agree...dont make it harder for the military to do the jobs.
Instead, enough with trying to make Americans as comfortable as possible.
We dont deserve it.
We need to earn it...ON OUR OWN.
What the heck are you talking about? Why do you think people form governments in the first place? To be "uncomfortable"? Absolutely not.
People form governments because collectively there are things that get done the indivdual can't do. And there's a social pact that comes along with that. Pay in and get benefits from that.
It's a supremely simple principle I don't think conservatives get. Whatsoever.
I disagree wholeheartedly.
Government, in my eyes, we designed to handle issues for the people that the people themselves do not have the resources to handle. Internatiuonal realtions, border defense, natural disasters, etc.
But I do not see government as a body that has the responsibility to help me out if I make a bad decision....or the wrong decision (bad or good).
Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Seems those that are not conservative have trouble understanding this one basic premise.
of course, it's ridiclous. idealogues often refuse to look at ramifications.
and notice, none of them said get out of iraq and afghanistan. but they want to cut...
cut what?
the same things they always want to cut so they can starve government until they can drown it in a bathtub.
notice also that not a single one said... raise income tax a couple of percentage points on people earning over a half million or even a million... or said tax estates over 6 million dollars.
this isn't about fiscal responsibility... it's about the 'ihategovernment' contingent.
Idealogues? Our social engineering in the name of do goodism, brought to us mainly by dems, has brought us to the precipice of disaster. It ain't just one idea that brought us to this carnival. You can throw in military spending too if you want but that's not the ultimate problem. They're both destroying us.
"Do goodism" is what brought a middle class to this country. Getting away from the notion that "Governance" is ordained by a Deity..or inherited..is what led to the American Revolution in the first place.
Gosh.
What the heck are you talking about? Why do you think people form governments in the first place? To be "uncomfortable"? Absolutely not.
People form governments because collectively there are things that get done the indivdual can't do. And there's a social pact that comes along with that. Pay in and get benefits from that.
It's a supremely simple principle I don't think conservatives get. Whatsoever.
I disagree wholeheartedly.
Government, in my eyes, we designed to handle issues for the people that the people themselves do not have the resources to handle. Internatiuonal realtions, border defense, natural disasters, etc.
But I do not see government as a body that has the responsibility to help me out if I make a bad decision....or the wrong decision (bad or good).
Conservatives believe in personal responsibility. Seems those that are not conservative have trouble understanding this one basic premise.
Bullshit.
Primitive governments had nothing to do with "Borders or international relations".
Idealogues? Our social engineering in the name of do goodism, brought to us mainly by dems, has brought us to the precipice of disaster. It ain't just one idea that brought us to this carnival. You can throw in military spending too if you want but that's not the ultimate problem. They're both destroying us.
"Do goodism" is what brought a middle class to this country. Getting away from the notion that "Governance" is ordained by a Deity..or inherited..is what led to the American Revolution in the first place.
Gosh.
I think bioeddica hit the note. Government's purpose is to guarantee our individual liberties. Freedom of religion, rights endowed only by our creator, pursuit of happyness. Deity is what made us great along with the founders being wise enough to know that religion couldn't be forced upon anyone. It's an amazing paradox that worked. Centralized government made us weak.
Here are the eligible areas you can cut.
I'll say this again.
The first step to this problem is cutting traumatically defense spending, closing bases overseas in Europe and Asia, and scaling back USAID. You want the world to invest in America again? You want to show the World that we are actually serious about our debt obligations?
That is the best way of showing them that we are.
The world believes that America is interested in doing nothing but building this huge unsustainable empire and that we are clearly declining to the point where it is becoming obvious that we can no longer afford to do so.
This step will show them otherwise (unless that actually is what our politicians are bent on doing and in that case this post means nothing).
After we stop trying to police the world, we can gain enough confidence to make gradual and serious domestic spending cuts without harming US tax payers. We can begin the process of privatizing social security and ending the prohibition of drugs. We can also gradually eliminate corporate welfare. Following a plan like this we can cut the budget 2% every year until we've cut it by atleast 40%. I mean it's not that hard, it just takes REAL critical thinking. You know the kind that many other countries that have rising economies have, and we just seem to not have at all.
"Do goodism" is what brought a middle class to this country. Getting away from the notion that "Governance" is ordained by a Deity..or inherited..is what led to the American Revolution in the first place.
Gosh.
I think bioeddica hit the note. Government's purpose is to guarantee our individual liberties. Freedom of religion, rights endowed only by our creator, pursuit of happyness. Deity is what made us great along with the founders being wise enough to know that religion couldn't be forced upon anyone. It's an amazing paradox that worked. Centralized government made us weak.
No it's not.
Governments have been around before organized religion.
The main purpose of government is the distribution of goods and services, and shared responsibilities to make that purpose possible.
It has been from the time of Hunter/Gatherers until the Complex systems we see today.
Everything else are abstracts..and in many cases, distractions.