Shoulda Chosen Bernie.

[Donald H]

Sen. Bernie Sanders: People are suffering ‘in a way we have not seen since the Great Depression’

Independent Senator Bernie Sanders discusses the need for Congress to pass a new coronavirus stimulus bill and the importance of the upcoming Senate race in Georgia. He tells Ali Velshi, “What’s happening in Georgia is going to impact the entire country.”

www.msnbc.com

And notice that the Bill is written to protect corporations.
Will Bernie become the voice of the people from outside the WH?
A voice working to force Biden to do what needs to be done and throw out the establishment ideals of the American way?

Is it time for the voices of the people, both Trump's supporters and the Dems's supporters to start speaking in the same language that will help bring America's ordinary people up out of poverty?

Or is everything on hold for another 4 years? Will the commie redbaitinig be able to hold it all together for the wealthy that long?

 

[pknopp]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

 

[Donald H]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

No doubt that America is between a rock and a hard place. That situation has been exacerbated by the fact that America went into the virus crisis situation unprepared. Already there were tens of millions suffering in poverty.

But America has no way out of it, and will have to face the demands put upon it by the virus, just as other countries will have to do the same.

Now that Trump has been defeated, the mission is to survive the damage he can still do as the lame duck. That' unfortunate because his solution didn't work and won't work. Allowing him to continue with his wrongheaded nonsense is just digging the hole deeper at a time when everybody should be working together to survive the virus.

It's already claiming 2000 deaths a day and is predicted that will become 3000. It could get a lot worse.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

But that's exactly the Golden Socialist Plan

Bankrupt the population...then send in the Knight In Shining Armor to rescue them (Big Government)

Problem is...no matter how fast they print money, it's value just keeps crashing without a capitalist foundation to generate actual wealth.

It's not just a cutesy saying......it's FACT
Socialism is grand....until they run out of other peoples money (which always comes quickly)

 

[pknopp]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

No doubt that America is between a rock and a hard place. That situation has been exacerbated by the fact that America went into the virus crisis situation unprepared. Already there were tens of millions suffering in poverty.

I discussed this elsewhere. What if we had spent the last 20 years on this country as opposed to wasting trillions in other countries? What did we gain by that?

But America has no way out of it, and will have to face the demands put upon it by the virus, just as other countries will have to do the same.

Now that Trump has been defeated, the mission is to survive the damage he can still do as the lame duck. That' unfortunate because his solution didn't work and won't work. Allowing him to continue with his wrongheaded nonsense is just digging the hole deeper at a time when everybody should be working together to survive the virus.

It's already claiming 2000 deaths a day and is predicted that will become 3000. It could get a lot worse.

The damage started long before Trump.

 

[pknopp]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

But that's exactly the Golden Socialist Plan

Bankrupt the population...then send in the Knight In Shining Armor to rescue them (Big Government)

Problem is...no matter how fast they print money, it's value just keeps crashing without a capitalist foundation to generate actual wealth.

It's not just a cutesy saying......it's FACT
Socialism is grand....until they run out of other peoples money (which always comes quickly)

What a crock. Capitalism is not creating wealth. The Federal Reserve is.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

But that's exactly the Golden Socialist Plan

Bankrupt the population...then send in the Knight In Shining Armor to rescue them (Big Government)

Problem is...no matter how fast they print money, it's value just keeps crashing without a capitalist foundation to generate actual wealth.

It's not just a cutesy saying......it's FACT
Socialism is grand....until they run out of other peoples money (which always comes quickly)

What a crock. Capitalism is not creating wealth. The Federal Reserve is.

That's the most ignorant Bullshit I've ever heard !
If anything the Federal reserve is STEALING wealth. Specifically, they do it with INFLATION.....to devalue your printed money.
What the hell do you think wealth IS....hint....IT'S NOT MONEY ???
It's what BACKS the money. REAL ASSETS.

If it was the Federal Reserve, they could just print enough money to make everyone rich.......oh for God's sake

 

[B. Kidd]

It's going to get real interesting when the money runs short for the social safety net.

 

[Donald H]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

But that's exactly the Golden Socialist Plan

Bankrupt the population...then send in the Knight In Shining Armor to rescue them (Big Government)

Problem is...no matter how fast they print money, it's value just keeps crashing without a capitalist foundation to generate actual wealth.

It's not just a cutesy saying......it's FACT
Socialism is grand....until they run out of other peoples money (which always comes quickly)

The plan in the Bill is to protect the corporations so they will be safe and be able to keep their money. But the problem is, it's not their money. Only some of it is their money and the other part of it is money they owe to the country for enabling them to make money, and as well some of the money is owing to the American people who worked hard to earn them the money.

Bernie's right about tens of millions living in poverty and the grwoing food shortages. Why is that so in America, the richest country in the world. It's not true in the world's leading democracies.

And now the Trump plan has failed. If indeed there ever was a plan?

 

[miketx]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

No doubt that America is between a rock and a hard place. That situation has been exacerbated by the fact that America went into the virus crisis situation unprepared. Already there were tens of millions suffering in poverty.

But America has no way out of it, and will have to face the demands put upon it by the virus, just as other countries will have to do the same.

Now that Trump has been defeated, the mission is to survive the damage he can still do as the lame duck. That' unfortunate because his solution didn't work and won't work. Allowing him to continue with his wrongheaded nonsense is just digging the hole deeper at a time when everybody should be working together to survive the virus.

It's already claiming 2000 deaths a day and is predicted that will become 3000. It could get a lot worse.

Media fed babble loony-ism.

 

[pknopp]

Look at all the Virus talk. Shut down, shut down, shut down but absolutely no one talking about how people survive that.

Your rent, electric, water, gas etc bills will still arrive on time and be expected to be paid.

I've said I understand the desire to shut down but it's impossible.

But that's exactly the Golden Socialist Plan

Bankrupt the population...then send in the Knight In Shining Armor to rescue them (Big Government)

Problem is...no matter how fast they print money, it's value just keeps crashing without a capitalist foundation to generate actual wealth.

It's not just a cutesy saying......it's FACT
Socialism is grand....until they run out of other peoples money (which always comes quickly)

What a crock. Capitalism is not creating wealth. The Federal Reserve is.

That's the most ignorant Bullshit I've ever heard !
If anything the Federal reserve is STEALING wealth.
What the hell do you think wealth IS....hint....IT'S NOT MONEY ???
It's what BACK the money. REAL ASSETS.

Our assets are in Asian countries.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Shoulda Chosen Bernie.”

Not sure what this is supposed to mean.

If this means Democrats should have nominated Sanders, then the thread premise is moot – Sanders would not have defeated Trump.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Sen. Bernie Sanders: People are suffering ‘in a way we have not seen since the Great Depression’

Independent Senator Bernie Sanders discusses the need for Congress to pass a new coronavirus stimulus bill and the importance of the upcoming Senate race in Georgia. He tells Ali Velshi, “What’s happening in Georgia is going to impact the entire country.”

www.msnbc.com

And notice that the Bill is written to protect corporations.
Will Bernie become the voice of the people from outside the WH?
A voice working to force Biden to do what needs to be done and throw out the establishment ideals of the American way?

Is it time for the voices of the people, both Trump's supporters and the Dems's supporters to start speaking in the same language that will help bring America's ordinary people up out of poverty?

Or is everything on hold for another 4 years? Will the commie redbaitinig be able to hold it all together for the wealthy that long?

Everything will be on hold for the next four years the consequence of a blind partisan and obstructionist Republican Senate hostile to the will of the majority of the people – regardless what Democrat is in the WH.

 

[Donald H]

It's going to get real interesting when the money runs short for the social safety net.

The problem is, there is hardly any social safety net existing to make it more interesting. That has been denied to the people by the big corporations. Three billionaires hold as much wealth as the bottom half of the American people.

Why is the situation in America so bad when it's the richest country in the world?

If the Trump plan was going to change that, it can't now because Trump has failed. And it's quite likely that Biden won't have any ambition to tamper with the establishment, American way system.

What now? Allow it to get even worse for another 4 years.

Listen closely to Bernie again unless you have a better idea!

 

[Donald H]

Sen. Bernie Sanders: People are suffering ‘in a way we have not seen since the Great Depression’

Independent Senator Bernie Sanders discusses the need for Congress to pass a new coronavirus stimulus bill and the importance of the upcoming Senate race in Georgia. He tells Ali Velshi, “What’s happening in Georgia is going to impact the entire country.”

www.msnbc.com

And notice that the Bill is written to protect corporations.
Will Bernie become the voice of the people from outside the WH?
A voice working to force Biden to do what needs to be done and throw out the establishment ideals of the American way?

Is it time for the voices of the people, both Trump's supporters and the Dems's supporters to start speaking in the same language that will help bring America's ordinary people up out of poverty?

Or is everything on hold for another 4 years? Will the commie redbaitinig be able to hold it all together for the wealthy that long?

Everything will be on hold for the next four years the consequence of a blind partisan and obstructionist Republican Senate hostile to the will of the majority of the people – regardless what Democrat is in the WH.

Now you're getting it! Take one more step and understand that the people allowed the Dem establishment to push Biden on the people when there was an opportunity to have Bernie. Even though it's doubtful that the corporations would have allowed Bernie to change things in any meaningful way. At least he would have pounded the message home to Americans and given a start to a new headspace.

 

[Donald H]

“Shoulda Chosen Bernie.”

Not sure what this is supposed to mean.

If this means Democrats should have nominated Sanders, then the thread premise is moot – Sanders would not have defeated Trump.

That's true, but it would have been an indication that the people were ready to start to move in a meaningful direction. And the message coming from Bernie would have probably minimized the damage Trump was enabled to do, when it was so obvious that his opponent would be such a failure.

Joe is just more of the same failed American way.

 

[Donald H]

Americans, forget the idea of it being a socialist, commie plan to destroy America! That's just the message to corporations have foisted upon the people to allow the wealthy to continue the ripoff.

The Trump regime has failed, regardless of whether or not he ever did have plans to bring some of the wealth to the people.

And now you're stuck in the same old system that has punished the ordinary people.

Is there anything that can be done to prevent another 4 years of suffering?

 

[jwoodie]

And now the Trump plan has failed. If indeed there ever was a plan?

Do you understand this inane contradiction?

You don't understand how "poverty" is calculated in the U.S. It excludes a myriad of noncash benefits such as free or reduced costs of housing, food and transportation, just to name a few. When added in, the total (tax free!) income for a family of four exceeds $50,000 per year. This is equivalent to a full-time job paying $30.00 per hour.

 

[miketx]

And now the Trump plan has failed. If indeed there ever was a plan?

Do you understand this inane contradiction?

You don't understand how "poverty" is calculated in the U.S. It excludes a myriad of noncash benefits such as free or reduced costs of housing, food and transportation, just to name a few. When added in, the total (tax free!) income for a family of four exceeds $50,000 per year. This is equivalent to a full-time job paying $30.00 per hour.

All they know is what the media shills feed them. Sometimes they have to be fed an enema.

 

[Donald H]

And now the Trump plan has failed. If indeed there ever was a plan?

Do you understand this inane contradiction?

You don't understand how "poverty" is calculated in the U.S. It excludes a myriad of noncash benefits such as free or reduced costs of housing, food and transportation, just to name a few. When added in, the total (tax free!) income for a family of four exceeds $50,000 per year. This is equivalent to a full-time job paying $30.00 per hour.

All they know is what the media shills feed them. Sometimes they have to be fed an enema.

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Calculate your poverty any way that works for you. The statistical facts can't be hidden by proud and patriotic Americans. Your country's quality of life has already fallen to 15th. in the world and the leading countries aren't waiting until you wise up and try to catch up.

China is 20th. and closing the gap quickly now. You need to invent some new facts.