Shut-down official. Republicans last-minute "No wait! We wanna talk now!!" ignored

[Wolfsister77]

This shutdown is entirely the fault of House Republicans. They own it. They put ideology ahead of country. This is a manufactured crisis of their own choosing because they'd rather use extortion to get rid of a law they don't like instead of winning enough elections to repeal it legislatively.

They suck. Period.

Debt ceiling is next and that's even worse.

Assholes.

The shutdown is entirely the fault of the Democrats. They haven't passed a budget for 5 years (which would have avoided all this drama), they refuse to negotiate with Republicans and instead adopt a "It's our way or the highway" and now get all pissy when Republicans passed a CR fully funding all of the government except Obamacare so it would be postponed for the same year that Obama postponed it for his cronies and it's the Republicans who put ideology ahead of country.

You're a fool and your side is everything you accuse Republicans of being.

You're an even bigger fool for believing this pile of garbage you just posted. Obamacare has already passed and been signed into law 3 years ago and upheld by the Supreme Court. IF the Reps don't like it, they can win enough elections to repeal it legislatively and not with these games with the budget and the debt ceiling.

That's a crappy way to Govern. We don't like something. We don't have the votes to get rid of it so lets just shut everything down, hold our breath until we turn blue, and stomp our feet until we get our way.

They are so stupid they shut the Govt. down over nothing. ACA will still go forward as planned so they accomplished nothing. This shutdown does not even stop the bill they are proposing.

They are wasting time with childish games. This may be o.k. with you but it's not with me.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I just heard the PandaCam is gonna be shut down at the zoo....

Oh the horror of it all

 

[Avorysuds]

Good job republicans! Rush and Hannity will have a TON to talk about tomorrow! Count that as a win!

I guess

Good job Republicans and Democrats. People that credit or attack one side for this come across as ignorant to me.

Oh what brilliant insight. The height of your pedestal amazes me

I'm sorry, you think Republicans really caused all this? I thought you were joking... Well fuck me.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

Well, then, the Democrats are officially to blame for this. They just rejected the last chance to negotiate and perhaps breach the impasse on the CR.

Nope. We won't negotiate with terrorists, and they pulled the trigger. Hats off to the Teabaggers.

Wow, asking the government to work within its means is now labeled 'terror;' welcome sir to the land of delusion. We hope you enjoy your stay.

You know what. No, you don't get off that easy. Terrorists flew planes into the World Trade Center. Terrorists flew a plane into the Pentagon. Terrorists murder Americans indiscriminately. I tell you this b/c you obviously have no idea what a 'terrorist' is. In your mind, a 'terrorist' is someone who gives you everything thing you want EXCEPT ONE THING, and you b/c you can't live with that much 'compromise,' you label your opponents 'terrorists.' How you have the audacity to look in the mirror every morning and call yourself an American, no, let's go with 'human being' is beyond me. What a worthless person you are. Please, please, for the love of all things decent and good on this earth, please never procreate. You'll be doing the rest of us, those trying to fix things, a huge favor. Unreal...

 

[Pasco08]

I fuguered this was going to happen but i wasn't really paying attention as i was watching the Rays beat the Rangers. Sigh......... Wonder how long the Fed Gov will be shutdown for? I hope everyone realizes this shutdown is going to cost more then just funding everything.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Good job Republicans and Democrats. People that credit or attack one side for this come across as ignorant to me.

Oh what brilliant insight. The height of your pedestal amazes me

I'm sorry, you think Republicans really caused all this? I thought you were joking... Well fuck me.

I know both parties are at fault. But I had to comment on how you waft in your farts because of their wonderful smell

 

[Avorysuds]

This shutdown is entirely the fault of House Republicans. They own it. They put ideology ahead of country. This is a manufactured crisis of their own choosing because they'd rather use extortion to get rid of a law they don't like instead of winning enough elections to repeal it legislatively.

They suck. Period.

Debt ceiling is next and that's even worse.

Assholes.

The shutdown is entirely the fault of the Democrats. They haven't passed a budget for 5 years (which would have avoided all this drama), they refuse to negotiate with Republicans and instead adopt a "It's our way or the highway" and now get all pissy when Republicans passed a CR fully funding all of the government except Obamacare so it would be postponed for the same year that Obama postponed it for his cronies and it's the Republicans who put ideology ahead of country.

You're a fool and your side is everything you accuse Republicans of being.

You're an even bigger fool for believing this pile of garbage you just posted. Obamacare has already passed and been signed into law 3 years ago and upheld by the Supreme Court. IF the Reps don't like it, they can win enough elections to repeal it legislatively and not with these games with the budget and the debt ceiling.

That's a crappy way to Govern. We don't like something. We don't have the votes to get rid of it so lets just shut everything down, hold our breath until we turn blue, and stomp our feet until we get our way.

They are so stupid they shut the Govt. down over nothing. ACA will still go forward as planned so they accomplished nothing. This shutdown does not even stop the bill they are proposing.

They are wasting time with childish games. This may be o.k. with you but it's not with me.

The ACA is not going as planned, it has held off in many areas to avoid the negative side effects by Obama and Dems. What do you think all the waivers were? Why do you think it has taken 3 years to even get basic shit started on Obamacare, because they want to dump it on the next President and the next congress.

 

[Dirk the Daring]

This shutdown is entirely the fault of House Republicans. They own it. They put ideology ahead of country. This is a manufactured crisis of their own choosing because they'd rather use extortion to get rid of a law they don't like instead of winning enough elections to repeal it legislatively.

They suck. Period.

Debt ceiling is next and that's even worse.

Assholes.

You're totally right. It's completely OK for the US gov't to proclaim to the rest of the world 'WE CAN'T PAY OUR BILLS!' Tell ya what, let's you and me go car shopping tomorrow. You can tell the bank AND all the dealers we speak to that you are completely incapable of paying for the car you intend to purchase. Wonder how successful we'll be...?

 

[Wolfsister77]

Great news Dems, Reps will lose the 2014 and 2016 elections then the utopia begins, and with that everything that goes wrong can solely be blamed on Democrats! I hope you get your way, I really really do seeing as I hate both you pos parties.

Works for me. Lets see what happens if this scenario plays out. Lets actually let the majority party govern for a change and see what happens.

We saw that already during Obama's first two years when the debt exploded.

Right, except spending under Obama has actually decreased.

 

[Wolfsister77]

This shutdown is entirely the fault of House Republicans. They own it. They put ideology ahead of country. This is a manufactured crisis of their own choosing because they'd rather use extortion to get rid of a law they don't like instead of winning enough elections to repeal it legislatively.

They suck. Period.

Debt ceiling is next and that's even worse.

Assholes.

You're totally right. It's completely OK for the US gov't to proclaim to the rest of the world 'WE CAN'T PAY OUR BILLS!' Tell ya what, let's you and me go car shopping tomorrow. You can tell the bank AND all the dealers we speak to that you are completely incapable of paying for the car you intend to purchase. Wonder how successful we'll be...?

That's the issue with the debt ceiling. It's money already spent. It should be a no brainer to pay our bills. Just ridiculous that they are even thinking about using that as a negotiating tool. It's not a way to govern but it is a way to drop our credit rating again and hurt our economy. Lame as hell.

 

[Papageorgio]

I'm going to be helping a friend of mine who does transcription for the Navy courts. She's a civilian, so she won't be saved. Just a few years from retirement ... my heart goes out to her.

Spare me, it will last a few days, then they go back to work. Then the union sues for back pay.

It all works out, the dire predictions are just BS.

Just like snow days in DC.

 

[Pasco08]

Anyone hazard a guess how long Congress will chose to keep the Gov shutdown for?

 

[TheOldSchool]

Anyone hazard a guess how long Congress will chose to keep the Gov shutdown for?

1 week

 

[Pasco08]

To add on to my last doesn't this mean another Credit downgrade as well?

 

[Avorysuds]

Oh what brilliant insight. The height of your pedestal amazes me

I'm sorry, you think Republicans really caused all this? I thought you were joking... Well fuck me.

I know both parties are at fault. But I had to comment on how you waft in your farts because of their wonderful smell

I have never heard of wafting in ones own farts before, is that something you do? You seem to have a near expert idea as to how and what wafting in your own farts is like, so I assume you have done it.

You said "good job Republicans." Why didn't you give credit to Dems if you knew both created this situation. Honestly just wondering. Sounds like you wanted to be misleading or something... You Trolling fart wafler?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Works for me. Lets see what happens if this scenario plays out. Lets actually let the majority party govern for a change and see what happens.

We saw that already during Obama's first two years when the debt exploded.

Right, except spending under Obama has actually decreased.

 

[Wolfsister77]

The shutdown is entirely the fault of the Democrats. They haven't passed a budget for 5 years (which would have avoided all this drama), they refuse to negotiate with Republicans and instead adopt a "It's our way or the highway" and now get all pissy when Republicans passed a CR fully funding all of the government except Obamacare so it would be postponed for the same year that Obama postponed it for his cronies and it's the Republicans who put ideology ahead of country.

You're a fool and your side is everything you accuse Republicans of being.

You're an even bigger fool for believing this pile of garbage you just posted. Obamacare has already passed and been signed into law 3 years ago and upheld by the Supreme Court. IF the Reps don't like it, they can win enough elections to repeal it legislatively and not with these games with the budget and the debt ceiling.

That's a crappy way to Govern. We don't like something. We don't have the votes to get rid of it so lets just shut everything down, hold our breath until we turn blue, and stomp our feet until we get our way.

They are so stupid they shut the Govt. down over nothing. ACA will still go forward as planned so they accomplished nothing. This shutdown does not even stop the bill they are proposing.

They are wasting time with childish games. This may be o.k. with you but it's not with me.

The ACA is not going as planned, it has held off in many areas to avoid the negative side effects by Obama and Dems. What do you think all the waivers were? Why do you think it has taken 3 years to even get basic shit started on Obamacare, because they want to dump it on the next President and the next congress.

It actually is going to go forward and the reason it has taken 3 years is because it wasn't supposed to fully go into effect until Jan. 1, 2014. Except for the exchanges and the mandates to buy healthcare, most everything else has already been in effect for awhile now.

 

[Moonglow]

If the United States government shuts down tonight and our economy takes a hit, it will be because House Republicans let it happen.

Right now, there's a bill sitting in the House that funds the government for a few more weeks. It doesn't demand the repeal or delay of the health care law, or deny women access to birth control, or include any other failed, partisan proposals. It funds the government. That's it. And if Republican leadership allowed a simple yes or no vote on this bill -- like the Senate has -- it would get enough support from members of both parties to pass.

Instead, the government that these Republicans were elected to fund will close down and that will hurt our economy. Americans across the country won't be allowed to show up for work. Paychecks could be delayed, meaning some folks will have to cut back on groceries or maybe even not pay a few bills. Businesses will have fewer customers. Veterans won't get services they rely on -- and it will put benefits for seniors at risk.

Even though they've already voted over 40 times to defund or delay the health care law, this group of Republicans in Congress is so obsessed with the idea of sabotaging Obamacare that they're willing to take the economy hostage to do it.

Take a look at how this shutdown will affect millions of Americans -- and then make sure you share it so other folks know, too.

President Obama has said time and time again that he's willing to work with folks on both sides of the aisle to grow our economy and even improve the health care law. But using the threat of government shutdown or defaulting on the bills our country owes is reckless and irresponsible.

In fact, shutting down the government won't stop Obamacare. The Health Insurance Marketplace will still open for business starting tomorrow, without delay.

Washington needs to stop manufacturing crises and focus on the issues that matter: creating jobs and building a strong middle class. Taking our economy over the cliff just to score political points isn't fair to the millions of Americans who show up every day to work and do their jobs. It’s time for Congress to do its job.

Make sure you know exactly who this shutdown is directly affecting and then pass it on.

Thanks,

David

David Simas
Deputy Senior Advisor
The White House
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P.S. -- You'll still be able to sign up for affordable health insurance on HealthCare.gov starting tomorrow, shutdown or no shutdown.

 

[Papageorgio]

This shutdown is entirely the fault of House Republicans. They own it. They put ideology ahead of country. This is a manufactured crisis of their own choosing because they'd rather use extortion to get rid of a law they don't like instead of winning enough elections to repeal it legislatively.

They suck. Period.

Debt ceiling is next and that's even worse.

Assholes.

You're totally right. It's completely OK for the US gov't to proclaim to the rest of the world 'WE CAN'T PAY OUR BILLS!' Tell ya what, let's you and me go car shopping tomorrow. You can tell the bank AND all the dealers we speak to that you are completely incapable of paying for the car you intend to purchase. Wonder how successful we'll be...?

That's the issue with the debt ceiling. It's money already spent. It should be a no brainer to pay our bills. Just ridiculous that they are even thinking about using that as a negotiating tool. It's not a way to govern but it is a way to drop our credit rating again and hurt our economy. Lame as hell.

I would think it would be a no brainer to pass a budget for the last 5years, I'd think it would be a no brainer to cut spending. I would think it be a no brainer to balance a budget. I'd think it would be a no brainer to find a way to get out of these stupid games every three months. Obama and Congress aren't serious about any of this, otherwise we wouldn't keep getting put in this spot.

 

[Wolfsister77]

We saw that already during Obama's first two years when the debt exploded.

Right, except spending under Obama has actually decreased.

Haven't had a drink in years. Well, except for a glass of wine but none tonight I work tomorrow. Actually need to get to bed now.

Government spending is the slowest it has been in decades under Obama. It's an easy enough thing to look up.