So...4 gang members attack a guy who is armed with a gun...doesn't end well for them...

[koshergrl]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

 

[koshergrl]

"The suspects are known to have local gang associations but the victim, whose name is being withheld for safety reasons, does not, according to Rasmussen."

Mexican gangs. They kill kids who don't join up.

Google

 

[Brain357]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

 

[koshergrl]

"In 2010, Sumano pleaded guilty to one count of second-degree assault for an incident on April 26, 2010. He originally had been charged with attempted murder."

Man killed in Gresham RV park identified

My heart bleeds.

 

[koshergrl]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

 

[koshergrl]

"The suspects are known to have local gang associations but the victim, whose name is being withheld for safety reasons, does not, according to Rasmussen."
Man killed in Gresham RV park identified

 

[koshergrl]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

Cuz Mexican gangs only kill people who have it coming.

Get the fuck out of here.

 

[Brain357]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

Sorry but gang people kill rival gang people. Or maybe he bought drugs and didn't pay. Don't be so naive.

 

[Brain357]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

Cuz Mexican gangs only kill people who have it coming.

Get the fuck out of here.

Sorry the facts don't workout for you.

 

[Godboy]

You want to know of the martial art that will help you fight off multiple attackers?

Here ya go...................Krav Maga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a technique specifically developed for that.

Wonderful.

how long does it take to be proficient enough to take down 4 attackers?

Unless its in a controlled environment, against students who are trained to attack in a very predictable manner, the answer is... never.

There are martial artists who will tell you they can teach you how to kill people by just touching them. That doesnt mean it actually works.

 

[koshergrl]

"A 16-year-old boy faces charges for stabbing another teen in the neck for refusing to join a gang."
Teen stabbed after refusing to join gang in Little Village

I told you dumbfucks. Lefties like to whine about the "persecution" of bakers and clerks who won't endorse their weddings....wait till these guys come for you.

And they will.

 

[koshergrl]

"Dos Santos was gunned down on Washington Street last week while riding his bicycle.
"Raeshawn Moody, 14, and Dushawn Taylor-Gennis, 16, set a "trap" and targeted Dos Santos, police said. Both boys are charged with murder.
"Cherry told Newscenter 5's Rhondella Richardson that Dos Santos was being threaten on social media for refusing to join a gang.
"I drove Jonathan home (to protect him)," said Cherry, claiming Dos Santos was afraid he would be targeted."

Funeral service held for Jonathan Dos Santos

 

[koshergrl]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

Sorry but gang people kill rival gang people. Or maybe he bought drugs and didn't pay. Don't be so naive.

You're an idiot.

 

[Brain357]

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

Sorry but gang people kill rival gang people. Or maybe he bought drugs and didn't pay. Don't be so naive.

You're an idiot.

Oh and why do you think 4 gang members armed with knives came and targeted him? I need a good laugh.

 

[2aguy]

You want to know of the martial art that will help you fight off multiple attackers?

Here ya go...................Krav Maga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a technique specifically developed for that.

Save it for Hollywood....

 

[2aguy]

You want to know of the martial art that will help you fight off multiple attackers?

Here ya go...................Krav Maga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It's a technique specifically developed for that.

Wonderful.

how long does it take to be proficient enough to take down 4 attackers?

You can become extremely lethal after about a year of training.

But remember.............it takes training and practice to fire accurately.

You can be good to go with a gun.....with about an hour of training.......,,Krav mags or any unarmed self defense requires physical fitness, youth and a fighting spirit....the 65 year old woman with arthritis...could still hold her own with a gun...Krav maga...not so much....

 

[Tresha91203]

I'm still stuck on this:

"Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released"

Released as in out there running around after breaking probation with a violent felony???? This is a huge part of our crime problem.

 

[2aguy]

Yes.....anti gun extremists, please tell me the unarmed martial art from whatever country in the world you can find it....that would allow one man to defeat 4 armed, violent sociopaths after having already been wounded....


Two gang members shot, one stabbed when victim fights back

At the scene, police learned that homeowner fended off four men who tried to invade his home, according to press materials released by the Gresham Police Department.

The unidentified homeowner was beaten and stabbed on the face and back before he was able to grab a gun and open fire on the intruders. At some point during the altercation, the homeowner also gained access to a knife and stabbed one of the intruders. It is not known if the knife he used was the same knife used to attack him.

Eriberto Sumano, 25, who suffered a single gunshot wound, was pronounced dead at the scene, and a 16-year-old, whose name has not been released, was also shot and remains in the hospital.

Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released. Leonard Chavez, 17, was not injured during the incident.

The homeowner, who police said has no known gang affiliations, was treated for the stab wounds and released from the hospital the following day.

So....which anti gun extremist ideas are shown to be stupid.....

--that guns won't help you survive an attack

--that you will be easily disarmed and the gun will be used against you

--that normal people can't defend themselves without being Navy Seals...

A man with a gun defeated 4 violent sociopaths and survived the attack.....

There are others......

What a hero:
The investigation by the East County Major Crimes Team continues. Investigators said the man attacked inside the mobile home was targeted, and it may have been gang-related.

1 killed, 3 wounded in Gresham RV park

Like most defenses a criminal defended against other criminals.

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

I'm still stuck on this:

"Jesus Bucio, 24, who was on probation at the time, was stabbed during the incident. He received treatment at a local hospital but has since been released"

Released as in out there running around after breaking probation with a violent felony???? This is a huge part of our crime problem.

That really is the only issue in gun control....the prosecutors and judges do not take gun crime or violent crime seriously. In any news story of a shooting, follow it back and you will likely find a violent history in the past of the shooter.....one where he should have been in jail, and not out shooting people.

It would seem that there is value to them to release these monsters....

 

[koshergrl]

You think gangs only target other criminals?

Really?

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

Sorry but gang people kill rival gang people. Or maybe he bought drugs and didn't pay. Don't be so naive.

You're an idiot.

Oh and why do you think 4 gang members armed with knives came and targeted him? I need a good laugh.

You are a moron. I sincerely hope m13 gang members ask you to join, and you refuse.

 

[Brain357]

Read the story. 4 guys attack him in his trailer? Cops say gang related and he was targeted. He did something to wrong these guys. Probably member of rival gang.

You're a dumb fuck. The person attacked has no gang affiliations. The dispute was an ongoing dispute, they live in the same park.

You really are on the side of the murderers, aren't you? You're fucking disgusting, punk.

Sorry but gang people kill rival gang people. Or maybe he bought drugs and didn't pay. Don't be so naive.

You're an idiot.

Oh and why do you think 4 gang members armed with knives came and targeted him? I need a good laugh.

You are a moron. I sincerely hope m13 gang members ask you to join, and you refuse.

I am a good law abiding citizen, gangs don't ask people like me to join. They do however ask criminal types to join... Way to fail to give a real answer.