So you love socialism ?????

[bripat9643]

So once a movie is released it should be freely accessible to anyone with the means to copy it?

You're getting into an obscure area that even libertarians argue about.

You're the one who said copyrighting is parasitic looting.

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

BULLSHIT

CITE ONE EXAMPLE


I AM MORE CONCERN ABOUT THE VAST GOVERNMENT MONOPOLY THAT EXISTS

WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO PROTECT US FROM OUR "PROTECTORS"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


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Exactly. The people who are constantly whining about the evils of monopoly are trying to make the biggest monopoly on the planet even bigger.

 

[Timmy]

So once a movie is released it should be freely accessible to anyone with the means to copy it?

You're getting into an obscure area that even libertarians argue about.

You're the one who said copyrighting is parasitic looting.

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

Antitrust laws are nowadays used by one competitor against another competitor who's getting more market share. They have never been used to prevent true monopolies because such a thing is impossible in a free market.

I disagree . If not for anti trust regs we'd probably all be at the mercy of one cell phone company . Like we were back in the ma bell days .

 

[bripat9643]

You're getting into an obscure area that even libertarians argue about.

You're the one who said copyrighting is parasitic looting.

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

Antitrust laws are nowadays used by one competitor against another competitor who's getting more market share. They have never been used to prevent true monopolies because such a thing is impossible in a free market.

I disagree . If not for anti trust regs we'd probably all be at the mercy of one cell phone company . Like we were back in the ma bell days .

Bell Telephone was a government enforced monopoly. Before the government granted them a legal monopoly there were hundreds of telephone companies competing with each other.

How ironic that your example proves exactly the opposite of what you claimed.

 

[Timmy]

You're the one who said copyrighting is parasitic looting.

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

Antitrust laws are nowadays used by one competitor against another competitor who's getting more market share. They have never been used to prevent true monopolies because such a thing is impossible in a free market.

I disagree . If not for anti trust regs we'd probably all be at the mercy of one cell phone company . Like we were back in the ma bell days .

Bell Telephone was a government enforced monopoly. Before the government granted them a legal monopoly there were hundreds of telephone companies competing with each other.

How ironic that your example proves exactly the opposite of what you claimed.

Think of the logistics . You can't have phone companies without gov, how else could you get the lines to cross an entire country . And it doesn't make sense to have dozens of lines for the dozens of companies .

 

[bripat9643]

It doesn't work even then. It reduces their standard of living.

You can argue that, but capitalism is the reason why their standard of living went even lower still.

Capitalism is the reason why mass immigration exists, socialism is just an economic platform.

Utter horseshit. Capitalism is responsible for all the wealth in the world, and I mean all of it. Socialism, at best, is a parasite that sucks off capitalism. It produces nothing.

Socialism = Bad =......................................... Untrue...

It's absolutely true. Socialism is based on using force against innocent people. That is intrinsically bad. Nothing good can come from it.

Capitolism doesn't use force ? Back in the day companies hired strike breakers to physically assault their workers .

All strike breakers did is perform the jobs that the strikers refused to do. That isn't using force on anyone. Strikers were far more likely to use force than the strike breakers. Government even looked the other way when labor union thugs beat up people trying to cross a picket line. It still does.

Again, your example proves exactly the opposite of what you claim.

 

[Timmy]

Let's stick wh cell phones .

If the big 3 merged we would be screwed . They could charge whatever they wanted . New companies wouldnt enter the biz because of the enormous infrastructure costs . And if they did they would be eliminated by predatory pricing (which is legal under full capitalism ) .

 

[bripat9643]

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

Antitrust laws are nowadays used by one competitor against another competitor who's getting more market share. They have never been used to prevent true monopolies because such a thing is impossible in a free market.

I disagree . If not for anti trust regs we'd probably all be at the mercy of one cell phone company . Like we were back in the ma bell days .

Bell Telephone was a government enforced monopoly. Before the government granted them a legal monopoly there were hundreds of telephone companies competing with each other.

How ironic that your example proves exactly the opposite of what you claimed.

Think of the logistics . You can't have phone companies without gov, how else could you get the lines to cross an entire country . And it doesn't make sense to have dozens of lines for the dozens of companies .

Somehow they managed to do it before the government granted Ma Bell a legal monopoly. When cell phones were first invented, they would work anywhere in the country even if your own provider didn't have any cell towers in your vicinity. That's because providers all made reciprocal agreements with each other that allowed for out of network phones to have "roaming" privileges.

See, private companies can solve problems without government.

 

[bripat9643]

Let's stick wh cell phones .

If the big 3 merged we would be screwed . They could charge whatever they wanted . New companies wouldnt enter the biz because of the enormous infrastructure costs . And if they did they would be eliminated by predatory pricing (which is legal under full capitalism ) .

Yet somehow small cell phone companies are constantly entering the market. Ever heard of Cricket? How about Consumer Cellular? How are these companies able to function when they own virtually no cell phone towers?

 

[Contumacious]

It doesn't work even then. It reduces their standard of living.

You can argue that, but capitalism is the reason why their standard of living went even lower still.

Capitalism is the reason why mass immigration exists, socialism is just an economic platform.

Utter horseshit. Capitalism is responsible for all the wealth in the world, and I mean all of it. Socialism, at best, is a parasite that sucks off capitalism. It produces nothing.

Socialism = Bad =......................................... Untrue...

It's absolutely true. Socialism is based on using force against innocent people. That is intrinsically bad. Nothing good can come from it.

Capitolism doesn't use force ? Back in the day companies hired strike breakers to physically assault their workers .

Yo Vern, does a corporation own its manufacturing plants or its union?

Do I have a right to work for company ABC or do the union owns my life , my labor?


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[Contumacious]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2009/07...or-unions-from-colonialtimes-to2009/#_ftnref7
A History of Labor Unions From Colonial Times to 2009

In the early 1900s union membership rose to 6% of the labor force and 2.7 million members by 1913 and the share stayed around 6–7% until 1917. This was the Progressive of 1900–1918 which fastened a welfare-warfare state on America which has set the mold for the rest of the twentieth century…because a unique set of conditions had destroyed the Democrats as a laissez-faire party and left a power vacuum for the triumph of the new ideology of compulsory cartelization through a partnership of big government, business, unions, technocrats, and intellectuals.

 

[nat4900]

I've never read it so I couldn't agree or disagree, so does that make me a communist? And what about my wife and kids they've never read the American communist platform either. All communists eh?
So where do we get a copy to read? And after we read it and disagree then we're not communists, right?

Please DO forgive the right wingers on this thread....Fox news (especially Sean Hannity) has eroded the other half of their brains

 

[bripat9643]

You're getting into an obscure area that even libertarians argue about.

You're the one who said copyrighting is parasitic looting.

I just haven't seen a way to accomplish the same result without government getting involved. Some libertarians say there should be no copyright laws. I believe in private law.

How about anti trust laws? Without them you'll end up with monopolies which destroy the base of capitalism......competition !

Antitrust laws are nowadays used by one competitor against another competitor who's getting more market share. They have never been used to prevent true monopolies because such a thing is impossible in a free market.

I disagree . If not for anti trust regs we'd probably all be at the mercy of one cell phone company . Like we were back in the ma bell days .

You disagreement has no basis in historical fact or economic theory.

 

[Contumacious]

Let's stick wh cell phones .

If the big 3 merged we would be screwed . They could charge whatever they wanted . New companies wouldnt enter the biz because of the enormous infrastructure costs . And if they did they would be eliminated by predatory pricing (which is legal under full capitalism ) .

Dingle Berry

According to the socialists the worse "monopoly of all times was Standard Oil of New Jersey.

At its peak it only controlled 85% of the market.

Gasoline and kerosene prices were extremely reasonable.

The ONLY ones complaining were the fascists scumbags in the Department of INjustice.

SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.


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[nat4900]

SO is Somalia

Safe water remains scarce in Somalia, contributing to disease and malnutrition

....and then you have IDIOTS like this poster who uses Somalia as an example of socialism.......Just a few more brain cells and you TOO would understand that Somalia is without ANY government.....or precisely what you morons seem to want.....you know, chanting "keep your government hands off of my Medicare"......

 

[CowboyTed]

real socialism : denmark- norway- france .....................

And US...

Unless the Army, Roads, Police,.... are private organisations

The US is not socialist by any stretch of your imagination

Oh yes it is.

The Military, Police, Roads,.... are all socialist programs. You can deny it all you like but they are...

 

[Contumacious]

SO is Somalia

Safe water remains scarce in Somalia, contributing to disease and malnutrition

....and then you have IDIOTS like this poster who uses Somalia as an example of socialism.......Just a few more brain cells and you TOO would understand that Somalia is without ANY government.....or precisely what you morons seem to want.....you know, chanting "keep your government hands off of my Medicare"......


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EXCUSE ME FUCKTARD

THE REASON THAT SOMALIA IS WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT IS BECAUSE SOCIALISM DESTROYED THAT COUNTRY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE ITS CITIZENS CONCLUDED THAT ANARCHY WAS BEST.


NOW YOU MOTHERFUCKERS CAN NOT FORCE INDIVIDUALS , UNDER PENALTY OF LAW, TO "CONTRIBUTE" TOWARDS MEDICARE AND THEN CLAIM THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO THE SAME.


SINCE THE 1960's MAMNY AMERICANS WANTED TO STOP "CONTRIBUTING" TOWARDS MEDICARE AND YOU MOTHERFUCKERS REFUSED TO LET THEM EXIT.

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[nat4900]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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Funny you should mention Sweden

Sweden is falling apart

Then you have THIS IDIOT who uses someone else's biased post to state that "Sweden is falling apart"....even though that other pioster was bitching about immigrants to Sweden.

How truly fucked up are these right wingers......

 

[Contumacious]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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Funny you should mention Sweden

Sweden is falling apart

Then you have THIS IDIOT who uses someone else's biased post to state that "Sweden is falling apart"....even though that other pioster was bitching about immigrants to Sweden.

How truly fucked up are these right wingers......

The Sweden Myth

 

[nat4900]

EXCUSE ME FUCKTARD

THE REASON THAT SOMALIA IS WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT IS BECAUSE SOCIALISM DESTROYED THAT COUNTRY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE ITS CITIZENS CONCLUDED THAT ANARCHY WAS BEST.

Keep digging that hole your stupidity has dug.....

So, Somalia is screwed up because of socialism? Did Glenn Beck tell you that?

They're NOT screwed up because of tribal differences...They're NOT screwed up because of religious factions....They're NOT screwed up because of thugs with guns..............Your moronic "conclusion" is socialism????

What the hell is the matter with you nut cases? Don't breed and don't vote...Stay home and play with your guns and bibles.

 

[nat4900]

Sweden is doing just fine.
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Funny you should mention Sweden

Sweden is falling apart

Then you have THIS IDIOT who uses someone else's biased post to state that "Sweden is falling apart"....even though that other pioster was bitching about immigrants to Sweden.

How truly fucked up are these right wingers......

The Sweden Myth

Not wanting to give up on his STUPIDITY, this poster cites a paper from The Mises Institute that is in reality an American Libertarian outfit founded by a follower of Ron Paul.

 

[Contumacious]

EXCUSE ME FUCKTARD

THE REASON THAT SOMALIA IS WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT IS BECAUSE SOCIALISM DESTROYED THAT COUNTRY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE ITS CITIZENS CONCLUDED THAT ANARCHY WAS BEST.

Keep digging that hole your stupidity has dug.....

So, Somalia is screwed up because of socialism? Did Glenn Beck tell you that?

They're NOT screwed up because of tribal differences...They're NOT screwed up because of religious factions....They're NOT screwed up because of thugs with guns..............Your moronic "conclusion" is socialism????

What the hell is the matter with you nut cases? Don't breed and don't vote...Stay home and play with your guns and bibles.

Mohamed Siad Barre seized power in 1969 and established the Somali Democratic Republic. In 1991, Barre's government collapsed as the Somali Civil War broke out.