So you love socialism ?????

[Rustic]

 

[PaintMyHouse]

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Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

 

[nat4900]

And in what nation will you live, that has no government?

Well, they DO seem to like Somalia's anarchical style.

 

[bripat9643]

Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO

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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

BULLSHIT.

NOW THAT THE CONSTITUTION (1787) HAS BEEN ABOLISHED YOU CAN BE MURDERED, MAIMED, INCARCERATED WITHOUT DUE PROCESS OF LAW

WHATEVER THE BUREAUCRATS SAY THE LAW IS , IS THE LAW

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If the only way to make your point is to flat-out lie, in caps, don't bother. The Constitution is alive and well, 230 years later, it just shouldn't be.

You already admitted that the government ignores the Constitution.

 

[Rustic]

Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol

Since you have no solution to life without a Federal government, not even able to praise them for winning WWII, why should anyone care what the hell you say?

You're the kind who says there should be no taxes, but can't tell us how anything would then be paid for...

 

[Dovahkiin]

Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol

Since you have no solution to life without a Federal government, not even able to praise them for winning WWII, why should anyone care what the hell you say?

You're the kind who says there should be no taxes, but can't tell us how anything would then be paid for...

These people are the ones who lack a basic understanding of a modern monetary economy. I used to be like them.
They don't understand that the US government issues the currency used by the private sector.

 

[Dovahkiin]

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Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

The constitution is an old document that is interpreted by whoever lives today. That's how it should be.

 

[bripat9643]

One more time:

Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

Virtually everything the FAA does is unconstitutional. If a state ruled that all flights from outside the state had to pay a fee, the FAA could outlaw that, but that's about it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's what I once got paid to say, and am still required to on any specifics. As part of that, you got this:

 

[PaintMyHouse]

One more time:

Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

The constitution is an old document that is interpreted by whoever lives today. That's how it should be.

"On similar ground it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation. They may manage it then, and what proceeds from it, as they please, during their usufruct. They are masters too of their own persons, and consequently may govern them as they please. But persons and property make the sum of the objects of government. The constitution and the laws of their predecessors extinguished then in their natural course with those who gave them being. This could preserve that being till it ceased to be itself, and no longer. Every constitution then, and every law, naturally expires at the end of 19 years. If it be enforced longer, it is an act of force, and not of right.--It may be said that the succeeding generation exercising in fact the power of repeal, this leaves them as free as if the constitution or law has been expressly limited to 19 years only." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison
Popular Basis of Political Authority: Thomas Jefferson to James Madison

 

[PaintMyHouse]

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Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

Virtually everything the FAA does is unconstitutional. If a state ruled that all flights from outside the state had to pay a fee, the FAA could outlaw that, but that's about it.

You still have not told us your solution? If you can't, then STFU.

 

[nat4900]

EXCUSE ME FUCKTARD

THE REASON THAT SOMALIA IS WITHOUT A GOVERNMENT IS BECAUSE SOCIALISM DESTROYED THAT COUNTRY. IT IS NOT BECAUSE ITS CITIZENS CONCLUDED THAT ANARCHY WAS BEST.

Keep digging that hole your stupidity has dug.....

So, Somalia is screwed up because of socialism? Did Glenn Beck tell you that?

They're NOT screwed up because of tribal differences...They're NOT screwed up because of religious factions....They're NOT screwed up because of thugs with guns..............Your moronic "conclusion" is socialism????

What the hell is the matter with you nut cases? Don't breed and don't vote...Stay home and play with your guns and bibles.

Mohamed Siad Barre seized power in 1969 and established the Somali Democratic Republic. In 1991, Barre's government collapsed as the Somali Civil War broke out.

Hey, moron...because Somalia had a civil war you "conclude" that they're now a bunch of socialists????

( how do these idiots even manage to turn their computers on without directions?)

MOTHERFUCK , THESE STUPID MOTHERFUCKERS MUST BE SPOONFED


The Somali Democratic Republic (Somali: Jamhuuriyadda Dimuqraadiya Soomaaliya, Arabic: الجمهورية الديمقراطية الصومالية‎ al-Jumhūrīyah ad-Dīmuqrāṭīyah aṣ-Ṣūmālīyah, Italian: Repubblica Democratica Somala) was the name that the Marxist–Leninist regime of former President of Somalia Major General Mohamed Siad Barre gave to Somalia during its reign, after having seized power in a bloodless 1969 coup d'état.[4][5][6] The putsch came a few days after the assassination of Abdirashid Ali Sharmarke, the nation's second President, by one of his own bodyguards.[6] Barre's administration would rule Somalia for the following 21 years, until the outbreak of the civil war in 1991"

This eternal moron is still at it.......Marxist-Leninist does NOT equal socialism (please don't breed...don't vote....just stay in your basement).........

 

[Dovahkiin]

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Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

Virtually everything the FAA does is unconstitutional. If a state ruled that all flights from outside the state had to pay a fee, the FAA could outlaw that, but that's about it.

Everything is "unconstitutional." if you refuse to allow interpretation. Which is why we allow interpretation.

 

[bripat9643]

Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol

Since you have no solution to life without a Federal government, not even able to praise them for winning WWII, why should anyone care what the hell you say?

You're the kind who says there should be no taxes, but can't tell us how anything would then be paid for...

These people are the ones who lack a basic understanding of a modern monetary economy. I used to be like them.
They don't understand that the US government issues the currency used by the private sector.

So? Until 1866 private banks could issue their own currency.

Private currency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

In the United States, the Free Banking Era lasted between 1837 and 1866, when almost anyone could issue paper money. States, municipalities, private banks, railroad and construction companies, stores, restaurants, churches and individuals printed an estimated 8,000 different monies by 1860. If an issuer went bankrupt, closed, left town, or otherwise went out of business the note would be worthless. Such organizations earned the nickname of "wildcat banks" for a reputation of unreliability; they were often situated in remote, unpopulated locales said to be inhabited more by wildcats than by people. Yet according to Lawrence H. White's article in The Freeman, "it turns out that 'wildcat' banking is largely a myth. Although stories about crooked banking practices are entertaining—and for that reason have been repeated endlessly by textbooks—modern economic historians have found that there were in fact very few banks that fit any reasonable definition of wildcat bank".[1] The National Bank Act of 1863 ended the "wildcat bank" period.
​

There's no economic reason why national governments have to issue currency.

 

[nat4900]

Somalia was a communist state before it devolved into Feudalism.

So are you joining the idiot squad in "thinking" that communism is the same as socialism?

 

[bripat9643]

Pure horseshit, of course.

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

Virtually everything the FAA does is unconstitutional. If a state ruled that all flights from outside the state had to pay a fee, the FAA could outlaw that, but that's about it.

Everything is "unconstitutional." if you refuse to allow interpretation. Which is why we allow interpretation.

In other words, Interpretation is a means to define the constitution to mean whatever you want it to mean.

 

[bripat9643]

Somalia was a communist state before it devolved into Feudalism.

So are you joining the idiot squad in "thinking" that communism is the same as socialism?

Communism is socialism implemented by people who really mean it.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol

Since you have no solution to life without a Federal government, not even able to praise them for winning WWII, why should anyone care what the hell you say?

You're the kind who says there should be no taxes, but can't tell us how anything would then be paid for...

These people are the ones who lack a basic understanding of a modern monetary economy. I used to be like them.
They don't understand that the US government issues the currency used by the private sector.

So? Until 1866 private banks could issue their own currency.

Private currency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia​

In the United States, the Free Banking Era lasted between 1837 and 1866, when almost anyone could issue paper money. States, municipalities, private banks, railroad and construction companies, stores, restaurants, churches and individuals printed an estimated 8,000 different monies by 1860. If an issuer went bankrupt, closed, left town, or otherwise went out of business the note would be worthless. Such organizations earned the nickname of "wildcat banks" for a reputation of unreliability; they were often situated in remote, unpopulated locales said to be inhabited more by wildcats than by people. Yet according to Lawrence H. White's article in The Freeman, "it turns out that 'wildcat' banking is largely a myth. Although stories about crooked banking practices are entertaining—and for that reason have been repeated endlessly by textbooks—modern economic historians have found that there were in fact very few banks that fit any reasonable definition of wildcat bank".[1] The National Bank Act of 1863 ended the "wildcat bank" period.
​

There's no economic reason why national governments have to issue currency.

Yeah, we definitely need thousands of different currencies handled by private banks.. God, learn to live in the real world.

 

[Dovahkiin]

Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.

So, what's the not unconstitutional, in your mind, way that airplanes and air traffic gets regulated? No regulations at all?

Virtually everything the FAA does is unconstitutional. If a state ruled that all flights from outside the state had to pay a fee, the FAA could outlaw that, but that's about it.

Everything is "unconstitutional." if you refuse to allow interpretation. Which is why we allow interpretation.

In other words, Interpretation is a means to define the constitution to mean whatever you want it to mean.

Now you're getting it! Welcome to the real world, where that is how things actually happen.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There's no economic reason why national governments have to issue currency.

As a capitalist, that is the last thing I would want. No capitalism could be based on a currency whose value was unknown, and undefended.
Yet again:

"A Stable Money Supply. Without reliable money, markets would be based primarily on barter and thus be extremely limited. In the U.S., before the Civil War, almost all paper money was issued by private banks – not the government. This was an unreliable and incredibly chaotic system. Sometimes merchants would not even accept certain currencies. It also meant there was no real control over the money supply – which has a crucial impact on inflation and economic growth. Widespread commerce and a stable economy both require a stable and dependable money system – one in which consumers and merchants have faith. This can only be provided and maintained by the federal government."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government