So you love socialism ?????

I live living in a first world nation with a stable government that works. I also love our private sector as long as it behaves!

I like science institutions
I like public colleges
I like tax payer funded police, roads and infrastructure
etc
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.
It's an example of anarchy, which capitalism cannot function in.
 
The only good federal government is one that is not seen or heard and most importantly not felt...
So you don't think the federal government should do anything during a recession?

Correct. More importantly, it should do anything before a recession. The federal government has caused almost every recession/depression we've had. The most recent one is a classic example.
You're an idiot. I have no words for such stupidity. You know what caused recessions? The government trying to cut the debt and not run deficits.
Think big deficits cause recessions

Hmmm, wrong, as usual. Credit expansion by the federal reserve and government lending agencies are what caused the recession. The deficit was growing by leaps and bounds all during the recession.
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.

Your idea of pure capitalism without regs would in fact only work within a state without government. We had police, fire fighters and spent on at least some regs in teh 19th century so we never were this dream world you imagine.
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.
It's an example of anarchy, which capitalism cannot function in.

It's not anarchy. It may be chaos, but that isn't the same thing as anarchy. Somalia has lots of government. It has dozens of warring Feudal fiefdoms. The ruler of each one exercises complete control of everything that goes on within his domain. That's what happens when socialist tyrannies collapse.
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.
It's an example of anarchy, which capitalism cannot function in.

Lots of people would dispute that.
 
Bripiss, do tell, what is the immoral selfish infant solution (since it's not in the Constitution) to the FAA? This?

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And how about this one?
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Think Apple did that?
American industry allowed for that, The federal government has no money just IOUs
Oh, it sometimes has lots of money, from taxes. And, do you approve of the Feds in that case, yes or no?

In other words, it has no money it didn't take from someone else.
You do realize, in the united states, we have a fiat currency and the US government is the one commanding the economy. This is a modern monetary economy, and the US govt issues the currency that the private sector uses. Err, taxation is quite literally taking in money the US govt created in the first place.
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.

Your idea of pure capitalism without regs would in fact only work within a state without government. We had police, fire fighters and spent on at least some regs in teh 19th century so we never were this dream world you imagine.

Go whine about infrastructure or something....oh wait, you did about four posts up
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.
It's an example of anarchy, which capitalism cannot function in.

Lots of people would dispute that.
A tiny few, usually upper class white males in first world countries who have no real world experience or economic knowledge.
 
Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
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I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.

Your idea of pure capitalism without regs would in fact only work within a state without government. We had police, fire fighters and spent on at least some regs in teh 19th century so we never were this dream world you imagine.

It's true that we've never had pure anarchy, but we had very limited government up until 1929 -1930. Almost all regulations were state regulations, not federal regulations.

I never imagined the US was under anarchy. However, that's the arrangement I think we should work toward. The concept of limited government is an oxymoron. If government exists, it will continue to grow until it consumes all of society.
 
It's not anarchy. It may be chaos, but that isn't the same thing as anarchy.
You have a gift, for never being right:

anarchy

[an-er-kee]


noun
1.
a state of society without government or law.
2.
political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control:
The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy.
Synonyms: lawlessness, disruption, turmoil.
the definition of anarchy

Definition number two is a theory. It's not a fact. It's assumed by idiots like you who assume anarchy is a synonym for chaos.
 
The only good federal government is one that is not seen or heard and most importantly not felt...
So you don't think the federal government should do anything during a recession?

Correct. More importantly, it should do anything before a recession. The federal government has caused almost every recession/depression we've had. The most recent one is a classic example.
You're an idiot. I have no words for such stupidity. You know what caused recessions? The government trying to cut the debt and not run deficits.
Think big deficits cause recessions

Hmmm, wrong, as usual. Credit expansion by the federal reserve and government lending agencies are what caused the recession. The deficit was growing by leaps and bounds all during the recession.
Absurdity. There is not one single cause for the recession that occurred recently, although we can see a failure to regulate, the feds failure to stem the tide of toxic mortages, recklessness of firms, etc.. all played a big part. The government did play a part in it, but the recession had nothing to do with the deficit. The deficit is supposed to grow during the recession, anyone saying otherwise hasn't looked at history. It's a shame the stimulus was so small, but it did what needed to be done.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/30/u...ts-agree-the-stimulus-lifted-the-economy.html
 
One more time:

Capitalism Requires Government
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"Americans need to realize that our economy has thrived not in spite of government, but in many ways because of government."

Without a whole host of government rules, capitalism could not exist. Even regulations and social programs help sustain a market economy by fixing many of its serious social and economic problems.

One of the most common and misleading economic myths in the United States is the idea that the free market is “natural” – that it exists in some natural world, separate from government. In this view, government rules and regulations only “interfere” with the natural beneficial workings of the market. Even the term “free market” implies that it can exist free from government and that it prospers best when government leaves it alone. Nothing could be further from the truth. In reality, a market economy does not exist separate from government – it is very much a product of government rules and regulations. The dirty little secret of our “free” market system is that it would simply not exist as we know it without the presence of an active government that creates and maintains the rules and conditions that allow it to operate efficiently."
Government is Good - Capitalism Requires Government


Pure horseshit, of course.
Nothing of the kind, and every real capitalist, not you of course, knows it. But, you are the guy who thinks we can't have an FAA, because the Founders, with no commercial aircraft, no planes at all, didn't write that into the Constitution in the year 1789...

That's absolutely correct. The Constitution is a document of enumerated powers. Regulating passenger air travel isn't one of the power enumerated.
 
Trust the federal government all you want, I don't care... Just don't expect anyone else to trust any part of the federal government. lemmings
Lol
Since you have no solution to life without a Federal government, not even able to praise them for winning WWII, why should anyone care what the hell you say?

You're the kind who says there should be no taxes, but can't tell us how anything would then be paid for...
 
Bbbut Socialism works!!!!!!! Ask any left loon on this forum. LMAO
=======
I'm sure this will come as a shock to you --- but there are many differences between Democratic Socialism and a dictatorship which is what Venezuela actually is.

The name they call it is irrelevant.

Most of the other Industrialzied Nations practice some form of Socialism and ... and ... and ...

THE UNITED STATES DOES TOO.

don't like it? Move to Somalia --- you'd love it there.

Another leftwing idiot who thinks Somalia is an example of capitalism.

Your idea of pure capitalism without regs would in fact only work within a state without government. We had police, fire fighters and spent on at least some regs in teh 19th century so we never were this dream world you imagine.

It's true that we've never had pure anarchy, but we had very limited government up until 1929 -1930. Almost all regulations were state regulations, not federal regulations.

I never imagined the US was under anarchy. However, that's the arrangement I think we should work toward. The concept of limited government is an oxymoron. If government exists, it will continue to grow until it consumes all of society.
Limited government up until 1929-30? Not as limited as you think, and it was not good to be a working person back then, especially one who wanted to retire/have a safe work place/feel secure. We slipped into recessions multiple times back then, funny thing, after we listened to keynes, recessions shortened after world war 2.
Think big deficits cause recessions
Social Democracy for the 21st Century: A Post Keynesian Perspective: The US Recession of 1920–1921: Some Austrian Myths
In the post 1945 period this was cut to about 11 months. Thus the average duration of recessions was essentially cut in half after 1945, because of countercyclical fiscal and monetary policy. Even expansions in the post-1945 business cycle became longer: the average duration of post-1945 expansions was 50 months. By contrast, the average duration of expansions from 1854 to 1919 was 27 months, and the average from 1919 to 1945 was 35 months (Knoop 2010: 13). In other words, the average length of post-1945 expansions became 43% higher compared with that of 1919 to 1945, and 85% higher than between 1854 to 1919.
 

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