Vandalshandle
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- Jan 30, 2013
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Keeping people dependent is not looking out for them"There is no difference between Democratic socialism, and socialism."
so Norway and Denmark are just as evil as Venezuela?
The US (because of roads and fire dept and police and military and social security) is JUST AS EVIL as china?
at this point
YOU have proven you are deranged.
and if we catch you driving on our socialist roads you will be deported (using our socialist tax dollars) to a NON socialist country of your choice.
which, by the way, because of roads and police and fire departments in those countries, do NOT exist.
Social Security and Medicare are not socialism
The former is a riced retirement savings plan the latter is a forced insurance plan
And both are far inferior to what a person could have if they actually had control over what amounts to 15% of their lifetime salary
...and we all know that everybody would wisely invest that 15% in guaranteed no loss portfolios, and that no one would squander it, and end up as charity cases, or worse, in his old age.
So what if they don't?
It's their money.
The government is not there to make sure you save your money.
If you want a guaranteed return then put your money in CDs and get 2%
Personally I would put that money in a very conservative portfolio and I would still end up with a couple million dollar nest egg in addition to what I would be saving anayway
Do the math and tell me how great SS is as compared to what a balanced investing strategy would have gotten you.
Fortunately, every industrialized nation on earth provides a way for it's citizens to be protected from starving in their old age. It is part of the price for living in a civilized society.
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Ok, so my cousin, who spent most of his savings on a catastrophic medical event when he was 63, is being "kept dependent" by Social Security and Medicare in a nursing home, where he is bedridden at age 81...