Socialism guarantees that everyone will live in which house?

[DrDoomNGloom]

The spectrum of the Right gets more radical as their net worth increases. I won't go in to the Koch Brothers, but does anyone remember H.L. Hunt, the Dallas billionaire that died in about 1974? This guy lived at White Rock Lake in a house that was a duplicate of Mt. Vernon, but, of course, at least 3 times larger. He was in to oil, and was making a profit of one million dollars a week in the late 1940's. He bragged that he never gave a single dime to charity. He was a radical Right Wing nut, who helped fuel the hatred of JFK in 1963 in Dallas. He hated the supreme court, unions, and the oil depletion allowance. He wrote a novel, "Alpaca", in which he advocated that the amount of votes one has should be directly proportional to his taxes he pays. That would have made him the most powerful man in America, as well as the richest. His children grew up rich, and tried to corner the silver market, which scheme collapsed, causing huge losses to the whole market. This scheme was another form of greed. it had absolutely nothing to do with creating jobs, or even products. I guess that I am surprised that the Right didn't run H.L., or one of his kids for president.

Did you have a point of some kind?

He's got no point, just a useless piece of shit trying to derail decent folks conversations!!

 

[peach174]

Socialism is bad for America because it results in large, intrusive and controlling government that diminishes the role and value of individual citizens; it is largely based on “false compassion” that promotes victimhood and big government solutions; and it offers a false hope of utopian brotherhood and equality, resulting in the loss of freedom and the rise of governmental tyranny.

It's the reason that the middle class is being destroyed.

Socialism results in large, intrusive and controlling government that diminishes the role and value of individual citizens. It is a form of statism, which sees the state as all-powerful, all-wise, and more capable of determining and supplying the needs of its citizens than the citizens themselves. Socialism empowers government, through its bureaucrats, to act as a great benevolent mother caring for her people by appropriating and redistributing the fruits of the people’s labor, as it sees fit, through high taxation and generous social welfare programs.

Socialists believe that all the ills and inequities of society can be remedied by government programs that require ever more tax dollars to fund them. Professor Arndt stated that the belief that government intervention was needed to correct “market failure” and protect the weak resulted in “big government, widespread government failures, excessive bureaucratic regulation of business and the lives of citizens, and a ‘political market’ which dispenses protection, subsidies and welfare expenditures in response to organized lobbying.” He contended that such ambitious spending and redistribution triggered inflation, increased unemployment and enlarged the government.

Ever-increasing levels of taxation, social welfare programs, and restrictions on business result in numerous unsustainable consequences, such as deep national debt, unfunded liabilities, wasted capital and loss of productivity, creativity, innovation and consumer choices. F.A. Hayek, author of The Road to Serfdom (1944), showed that “soft socialism–social democratism-will in the long run produce the same results as hard, fundamentalist socialism, namely the bankruptcy of government and enormous opportunity costs: the prosperity that society misses out on as compared to a genuine free market order.

Ever-increasing levels of taxation, social welfare programs, and restrictions on business result in numerous unsustainable consequences, such as deep national debt, unfunded liabilities, wasted capital and loss of productivity, creativity, innovation and consumer choices. F.A. Hayek, author of The Road to Serfdom (1944), showed that “soft socialism–social democratism-will in the long run produce the same results as hard, fundamentalist socialism, namely the bankruptcy of government and enormous opportunity costs: the prosperity that society misses out on as compared to a genuine free market order.”

Why Socialism is Bad for America | Todd Weber's Random Thoughts

Radnitzky noted that redistributing wealth from the productive segments of society (industry, commerce, etc.) to the non-productive (the political class, bureaucracy, social welfare recipients, etc.) “reduces the rewards for enterprise and production and cuts innovation and employment.”

The same thing that our Founders knew and was against.

Another reason why socialism is bad for America is that socialism is largely based on false compassion, which results in a host of serious, though unintended, consequences. The term “false compassion” is used for two reasons. First, because socialism takes the care of those in need out of the willing hearts and hands of truly compassionate individuals, and places it in the hands of the impersonal bureaucracy of government, which then takes by force from those who have, via taxation, and redistributes it, often with great inefficiency and waste, to others who have not, the recipients have no connection to the source of such benefits (the taxpayer). Secondly, this involuntary benevolence often results, not in good will, gratitude, and a sense of community, but rather resentment among those who are taxed, and a sense of entitlement and continuing dependency among those who benefit. This false compassion is seen in the socialist obsession with equality and fairness accompanied by the conviction that capitalism and those who espouse it are inherently unfair, insensitive and cruel.

It promotes big Government elites who have it all, while the rest of us have little or nothing.

Socialists consider inequality in wealth and incomes as injustice; and the greater the disparity, the greater the injustice. Mises observed that this view then justifies the confiscation of wealth from the rich in order to provide for the poor, presumably resulting in a more equitable situation. However, this always proves to be a slippery slope of never-ending redistribution. Mises noted:

The history of the taxation of profits, incomes, and estates in all countries clearly shows that once the principle of equalization is adopted, there is no point at which the further progress of the policy of equalization can be checked…As long as any degree of inequality is left, there will always be people whom envy impels to press for a continuation of the equalization policy.

In the end, socialist efforts toward economic equalization result in universal poverty, except perhaps among the ruling class. Rather than achieving a higher quality of life for all, the forces of socialism invariably push everyone down to equal impoverishment and misery. This has been demonstrated everywhere that all-out socialism has been practiced, most notably in the former Soviet Union, North Korea, and China, among many others. Muravchik astutely observed, “There is no escape from inequality, except through uniform poverty.”

The final reason we will note as to why socialism is bad for America is that it offers false and empty hope in an idealistic fantasy that has never succeeded in practice, and which has repeatedly resulted in tyranny and terrible human suffering. Those who would implement socialist or quasi-socialist policies in the United States of America are either unaware of the bleak history of socialism and have not considered the long-term consequences of their aims, or they are so enamored of their ideology that they don’t care. Ludwig von Mises wrote that politicians who recommend socialist policies while claiming that they want to preserve the market economy and economic freedom are “either hypocrites who want to bring about socialism by deceiving the people about their real intentions, or they are ignoramuses who do not know what they are talking about.”

Socialism is not costing the US its middle class. This is the nonsense they have you believing and you have taken the bait, hook, line, and sinker.

It's actual Historical Facts that prove that it's true.
Any one who reads History knows it.
Look at any country that has different forms of socialism and they all have low percentage of middle class.

Look at Cuba - they have 1% high class, 25% middle class and 74% low class.

 

[healthmyths]

The point of the thread was showing how the socialist leanings of Obama will have the rest of us living as his brother because remember...Obama has told us he is his brother's keeper and this is where his brother that he keeps lives....

 

[Manchester]

Quiet now sonny, the adults are talking.

I got your sonny hanging bitch!!

Oh dear on to the Ignore naughty step until you can learn to be civil.

 

[healthmyths]

All of you... How can anyone believe ONE single word Obama says when he piously announces:
"And so it comes as no surprise that this week President Obama will announce a new initiative titled "My Brother's Keeper."
President Obama will launch a significant new effort this week to bolster the lives of young men of color, seeking to use the power of the presidency to help a group of Americans whose lives are disproportionately affected by poverty and prison."
Horizons: "My Brother's Keeper"

And all the while his brother lives in a hut that costs $12 a year.

Now I really don't understand HOW any one can support such unabashed hypocrisy unless those supporters are also pure hypocrites!
Obama supporters say conservatives push grandmas over cliffs, starve children, anything.. YET these pictures are worth thousands of words..
Obama even has the gall to START a program with YOUR tax dollars while He makes $400,000 and can't at least write a check to his brother for $1,000 !

But what happens to someone who DOES help his brother..

"He asked if I could provide $1,000 to help him," D'Souza told Huckabee. "And I'm like, 'You're the president's half-brother. Isn't there somebody else you can call?' And he said, 'no.'"
"I ended up sending $1,000 to George Obama, while President Obama apparently now announces this new initiative called 'My Brother's Keeper,'" D'Souza said. "Well, evidently, he hasn't been much of his brother's keeper."


Dinesh D’Souza, the conservative author and political commentator, was arrested and indicted on charges of campaign finance fraud on Thursday.

In a statement, U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara's office said that D'Souza made "illegal contributions to a United States Senate campaign in the names of others" and "[caused] false statements to be made to the Federal Election Commission in connection with those contributions.”