Socialism sucks! (Virus hits). Socialism save us!!

[EdwardBaiamonte]

What has been done since 2008 has done nothing but make the wealth gap grow.

True enough!! Our poor now live at about $70,000 income a year while much of the world's poor live at 750- $1000 per year.

There are a lot of people who live in some other reality than the one most live in.

can you tell us what you are trying to say?

 

[georgephillip]

True enough!! Our poor now live at about $70,000 income a year while much of the world's poor live at 750- $1000 per year.

U.S. Median Household Income Up in 2018 From 2017

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Socialism is when government gives airlines billions of dollars in bailouts AFTER said airlines have used 96% of their cash flow over the past decade for stock buybacks, iow. making the rich richer.

Does the liberal think the owners should have been smart enough to see the pandemic coming and saved the money to pay for it??

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

True enough!! Our poor now live at about $70,000 income a year while much of the world's poor live at 750- $1000 per year.

U.S. Median Household Income Up in 2018 From 2017

True enough!! Our poor now live at about $70,000 income a year while much of the world's poor live at 750- $1000 per year.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

[the government could simply nationalize commercial air travel?

Then we'd have soviet bureaucrats running the airlines, and other industries, and another 150 million slowly starved to death??

Thomas Jefferson:
"Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread."

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Everyone in Canada has health care.

USA too. And??????????

 

[pknopp]

Everyone in Canada has health care.

USA too. And??????????

Once again with your alternative reality.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Everyone in Canada has health care.

USA too. And??????????

Once again with your alternative reality.

can you get with your Mom and try to put into words why you think it is alternate??

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What the Soviets were good at was killing off tremendous numbers of their own soldiers through gross incompetence.

They were good at killing Nazis too.
In fact, they were much better at it than the US was.

France is wrong about who defeated the Nazis

The Soviets lost 25 MILLION fighting the Germans. The Germans lost 5 million fighting EVERYONE.

Don't confuse commies with math.

 

[georgephillip]

Name one social problem that socialism has fixed.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Name one social problem that socialism has fixed.

it goes to prove that you can make literacy mandatory even in a liberal concentration camp where income is 8% of what it is in USA

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Name one social problem that socialism has fixed.

The extra 0.8% makes the boot smashing into your face worth it, eh moron?

 

[gipper]

Read this. It might help you understand.

Sorry, don't take reading assignments from fools. Why not try to put into words what you think others don't understand. We can all post 1 million links to sites that prove we are right.

Read this. It might help you understand.

Sorry, don't take reading assignments from fools. Why not try to put into words what you think others don't understand. We can all post 1 million links to sites that prove we are right.

Oh well. Your loss.

 

[georgephillip]

Does the liberal think the owners should have been smart enough to see the pandemic coming and saved the money to pay for it??

Does the resident fascist believe tax payers should subsidize stock buybacks and extravagant CEO compensation?

Would that not constitute crony capitalism?

 

[westwall]

Name the economic system that will solve "social problems."

You can't fix envy.

You can't stop selfishness.

Socialism solves social problems like class division, for example. Capitalism divides the population into those who own the wealth and the means to produce wealth and the remaining 99% sell their labor to produce the 1%'s profits.

Under socialism productive employees would become more entitled to corporate profits than parasitic shareholders.

Those who produce the wealth should own it, right?

The Divine Right of Capital by Marjorie Kelly: A Summary

"Here’s the basic formula you’ll find on financial statements:

"Capital Income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Employee income + Cost of materials)

"Kelly uses some simple algebra to show that this formula could just as easily be re-written as:

"Employee income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Capital income + Cost of materials)

"In other words, the company could just as easily be optimized to maximize employee income."

Name one social problem that socialism has fixed.

Everyone in Canada has health care.

Good luck getting it in a timely manner. Canadian politicians, and those who can afford to, come to the US and pay for their medical procedures.

 

[westwall]

No socialism is the government taking ownership of businesses.

Socialism is when government gives airlines billions of dollars in bailouts AFTER said airlines have used 96% of their cash flow over the past decade for stock buybacks, iow. making the rich richer.

Unlike workers airlines can use their assets as collateral to borrow any funds they need to continue operating, or the government could simply nationalize commercial air travel?

No, that's crony capitalism. Which is a form of fascism.

 

[SAYIT]

There are a lot of people who live in some other reality than the one most live in.

can you tell us what you are trying to say?

He would if he knew. PKnopp spews the leftarded talking points but like so many comrades doesn't really

the government could simply nationalize commercial air travel?

Then we'd have soviet bureaucrats running the airlines, and other industries, and another 150 million slowly starved to death??
Thomas Jefferson:
"Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread."

A lesson some cannot or refuse to comprehend.

 

[georgephillip]

The extra 0.8% makes the boot smashing into your face worth it, eh moron?

All those Cuban boots smashing into rich, white faces makes you sad, Sap?

"The Platt Amendment set the conditions to end the United States military occupation of Cuba and was passed at the end of the Spanish-American War of 1898, which was fought over which country should oversee the governing of the island.

"The amendment was intended to create a path to Cuban independence while still allowing the U.S. to have an influence in its domestic and international politics. It was in effect from February 1901 until May 1934."

The Platt Amendment and US-Cuba Relations

 

[Cecilie1200]

Socialism is the government telling businesses they must close shop so yeah it fucking sucks.

Even that isn't really socialism. One of the reasons we have governments is precisely to deal with emergency situations.

Yes, it sucks massively. But uncontained spread of a virus we're not prepared to effectively treat would be far worse.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Name the economic system that will solve "social problems."

You can't fix envy.

You can't stop selfishness.

Socialism solves social problems like class division, for example. Capitalism divides the population into those who own the wealth and the means to produce wealth and the remaining 99% sell their labor to produce the 1%'s profits.

Under socialism productive employees would become more entitled to corporate profits than parasitic shareholders.

Those who produce the wealth should own it, right?

The Divine Right of Capital by Marjorie Kelly: A Summary

"Here’s the basic formula you’ll find on financial statements:

"Capital Income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Employee income + Cost of materials)

"Kelly uses some simple algebra to show that this formula could just as easily be re-written as:

"Employee income + Retained earnings = Revenue – (Capital income + Cost of materials)

"In other words, the company could just as easily be optimized to maximize employee income."

Socialism solves social problems like class division, for example.

That's funny.

Any examples?

Those who produce the wealth should own it, right?

Wrong.

Those who work for wages should get wages.

"In other words, the company could just as easily be optimized to maximize employee income."

Marjorie should start such a company, instead of working at a non-profit.

Anyone who thinks the only people in a company who "produce the wealth" are the lowest-level unskilled grunt workers has clearly never been anything but a lowest-level unskilled grunt worker.

I have a co-worker who is utterly convinced that our manager does nothing all day, and that when I was hired, I took on all of his work. Truth is, I did take an enormous chunk of work that was on his plate before I got there, but only to free him up to do a ton of things I'm not able to do. I can see that he's far busier than either of us, but she can't . . . probably because I'm trying to help him and she's huddled in her office, avoiding everyone.