Some History of Capitalism

[AnCap'n_Murica]

 

[Iceweasel]

"the capitalist class was the slavery class"

Most people who are self described "capitalists" are really just christians they see socialism as a form of atheism a religion to compete with there's. Americans know everything about socialism except the definition, most of them couldn't tell you what the word soviet even means.

What's soviet have to do with anything? I think most people over the age of 21 know socialism is spreading wealth around. Which sounds cool when you're still nursing off the teat. Not so cool when you start working for a living.

most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus".... thats about all you know as well and your like 90 right?

Well...I never heard a public school teacher say "praise white Jesus", but perhaps your local school was different.

Setting that aside, are you suggesting communism was not bad? Did we not win the cold war?

Maybe it's me, but I can't tell what the hell you're saying.

He's clueless.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Agreed. Add to this those bitching the most about capitalism are American bourgeoisie sipping their Starbuck's lattes and driving their Toyota Prius's.

I thought it was white jesus that made us great?

Nope. It was capitalism. Sure, most Americans are Protestants, but look at other capitalist nations with a high per capita GDP and you'll find they are capitalist, not socialist.


OTOH, even the US has a socialist safety net such as social security (forced savings), welfare (giving people other people's money), jobs programs (that's more of an investment IMO), Medicaid, etc. Capitalism is the money engine that allows country to have socialist programs. A pure socialist country quickly devolves into a poor nation growing beets to survive the winter.

Well thats what the propaganda film they showed us in high school said, so you must be right.

who coined the phrase capitalism by the way? George Washington?

 

[PurpleOwl]

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cute....

 

[Divine Wind]

All collectivist-oriented ideas about law and society have one common element: participation is not voluntary and is enforced by armed government agents. Capitalism is voluntary. If you don't like what I'm selling, you are free to choose differently.

I say if your idea requires jack booted thugs to enforce your will, you have a fundamentally bad idea.

Agreed, which is why:
1) all socialist nations quickly turn into totalitarian socialist nations.

2) The LW anti-gun mob seeks to apply the same idea to guns. "The reason anti-gun laws in Chicago don't work is because of pro-gun laws outside Chicago. Therefore we must ban guns everywhere."

3) Totalitarian systems eventually fail. It's just a matter of how much suffering people are willing to put up with before they are willing to risk dying in a revolt.

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

All collectivist-oriented ideas about law and society have one common element: participation is not voluntary and is enforced by armed government agents. Capitalism is voluntary. If you don't like what I'm selling, you are free to choose differently.

I say if your idea requires jack booted thugs to enforce your will, you have a fundamentally bad idea.

 

[Divine Wind]

Well thats what the propaganda film they showed us in high school said, so you must be right.

who coined the phrase capitalism by the way? George Washington?

Where was this propaganda film shown? Cuba? USSR? A California commune?

Are you bourgeoisie or not? Please confirm.

IIRC, Karl Marx put a name to a practice that has existed for centuries. Free trade, the private marketing of goods, is as old as the human race. It was Marx who put a name on it in order to create a straw man for him to attack.

 

[Winston]

"the capitalist class was the slavery class"

Most people who are self described "capitalists" are really just christians they see socialism as a form of atheism a religion to compete with there's. Americans know everything about socialism except the definition, most of them couldn't tell you what the word soviet even means.

What's soviet have to do with anything? I think most people over the age of 21 know socialism is spreading wealth around. Which sounds cool when you're still nursing off the teat. Not so cool when you start working for a living.

Well then most people are wrong. Socialism does not have a damn thing to do with spreading wealth around and everything to do with the government, or the people, owning the means of production. Perhaps one of the largest socialist organizations on earth is based right here in the United States, it is called the United States Department of Defense.

You have any bread in the house. Eat a biscuit or muffin from McDonalds? More than likely the flour used to make those products was milled by that socialist outfit called North Dakota Mill and Elevator. The damn state of North Dakota owns a mill, largest flour mill in the country.

And all that oil exploration in North Dakota, financed by--horrors of horrors, the state bank of North Dakota. The damn state of North Dakota owns a bank too. Only one in the country, which means businesses can finance at a lower rate than anywhere else in the country. Damn socialism.

 

[PurpleOwl]

Well thats what the propaganda film they showed us in high school said, so you must be right.

who coined the phrase capitalism by the way? George Washington?

Where was this propaganda film shown? Cuba? USSR? A California commune?

Are you bourgeoisie or not? Please confirm.

IIRC, Karl Marx put a name to a practice that has existed for centuries. Free trade, the private marketing of goods, is as old as the human race. It was Marx who put a name on it in order to create a straw man for him to attack.

capitalism has only been around since about the 1500's .... but you dont know the definition of that word either

 

[PurpleOwl]

All collectivist-oriented ideas about law and society have one common element: participation is not voluntary and is enforced by armed government agents. Capitalism is voluntary. If you don't like what I'm selling, you are free to choose differently.

I say if your idea requires jack booted thugs to enforce your will, you have a fundamentally bad idea.

Agreed, which is why:
1) all socialist nations quickly turn into totalitarian socialist nations.

2) The LW anti-gun mob seeks to apply the same idea to guns. "The reason anti-gun laws in Chicago don't work is because of pro-gun laws outside Chicago. Therefore we must ban guns everywhere."

3) Totalitarian systems eventually fail. It's just a matter of how much suffering people are willing to put up with before they are willing to risk dying in a revolt.

you dont know what "totalitarian" means either.... i bet you think it means high taxes or some bullshit

 

[Divine Wind]

most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus".... thats about all you know as well and your like 90 right?

Is that what you were taught at your Socialist commune?

Where are those exactly? Is it just in the paranoid racist fantasy world you imagine too justify your horrible beliefs?

If you don't want to answer where you were shown "propaganda" films and/or where you were taught "most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus", you don't have to do so. The United States isn't a totalitarian socialist nation. We believe in freedom of speech even when it is clearly false like yours.

 

[owebo]

"the capitalist class was the slavery class"

Democrats capitalists.....that's some funny shit.....

 

[PurpleOwl]

most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus".... thats about all you know as well and your like 90 right?

Is that what you were taught at your Socialist commune?

Where are those exactly? Is it just in the paranoid racist fantasy world you imagine too justify your horrible beliefs?

If you don't want to answer where you were shown "propaganda" films and/or where you were taught "most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus", you don't have to do so. The United States isn't a totalitarian socialist nation. We believe in freedom of speech even when it is clearly false like yours.

Again you dont know what totalitarian means... try using smaller words to get your point across

 

[Weatherman2020]

Some history on capitalism: You have a computer attached to an internet and can freely post whatever stupid crap you want all because of capitalism.

 

[Divine Wind]

you dont know what "totalitarian" means either.... i bet you think it means high taxes or some bullshit

Again you dont know what totalitarian means... try using smaller words to get your point across

ROFL. Go ahead and believe all the socialist crap you want, kid. Nobody can stop you. It's still a free country.

 

[eflatminor]

"the capitalist class was the slavery class"

Most people who are self described "capitalists" are really just christians they see socialism as a form of atheism a religion to compete with there's. Americans know everything about socialism except the definition, most of them couldn't tell you what the word soviet even means.

What's soviet have to do with anything? I think most people over the age of 21 know socialism is spreading wealth around. Which sounds cool when you're still nursing off the teat. Not so cool when you start working for a living.

most americans only know the brainwashed diatribe you get from high school history class "communism is bad we won the cold war praise white jesus".... thats about all you know as well and your like 90 right?

Well...I never heard a public school teacher say "praise white Jesus", but perhaps your local school was different.

Setting that aside, are you suggesting communism was not bad? Did we not win the cold war?

Maybe it's me, but I can't tell what the hell you're saying.

Are you suggesting you know anything more about communism than that?

Non-answer noted.

Is that really the best you can do in defending your own words?

That's rather sad.

 

[AnCap'n_Murica]

 

[PurpleOwl]

you dont know what "totalitarian" means either.... i bet you think it means high taxes or some bullshit

ROFL. Go ahead and believe all the socialist crap you want, kid. Nobody can stop you. It's still a free country.

since when is America a free country?

 

[Weatherman2020]

"the capitalist class was the slavery class"

Most people who are self described "capitalists" are really just christians they see socialism as a form of atheism a religion to compete with there's. Americans know everything about socialism except the definition, most of them couldn't tell you what the word soviet even means.

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That's always the standard response on why every socialist government ends up collapsing - they just didn't do it right.

 

[danielpalos]

Capitalism is what made us great. Everything you enjoy right now came to you via capitalism, the inventions, innovations, manufacturing, etc. Socialism is the religion for losers. Those that can't telling other people to provide.

only in right wing fantasy. socialism took us to the Moon and back, last millennium. capitalism is still looking for a for-profit clue and a for-profit Cause.