SOURCE: Shutdown Agreement Reached, Announcement Set for 1PM

State of the union back on. Next three weeks Trump calls state of emergency to build the wall. And especially getting the government back open. Win win.

Trump didn't declare an emergency because the courts won't let him do that. In order to call an emergency, the has to BE an actual emergency, not a petulant man-child who won't take "No" for an answer.
 
no one caved or even blinked. It's still a virtual statement.
 
The asshole caves after showing the country that the leviathan is unnecessary. What a shit heel.
 
He did the right thing. My opinion of him has gone up.


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He said something interesting right at the beginning: that the Democrats had finally admitted that barriers are an important part of border security. A bipartisan group is being convened to review information on what works and what is needed, supplied by experts in the field. The committee has three weeks (Feb 15) and if they have not come up with an acceptable plan by then, he will invoke a national emergency.

Doesn't sound like much of a "cave" to me. I am hopeful that this will work.

Oh, another comment of interest was that the tentative agreement will include improved and heightened drug-detection equipment at the customs crossing points. He said they are greatly outdated. So maybe they will actually be able to stop some of the drug flow into the country. A lot comes in on ships, though, and they'll never be able to catch it all.
I don't recall anyone disputing that barriers at ports of entry would make illegal entry harder. It may be that the dems have offered him something he can claim is a beginning of a bigger barrier. After Trump blew up the continuing resolution senate deal, it seemed to me the dems wanted to deny even this face saving to Trump, but .... compromise is how American govt works because the Founders set it up that way.
 
.........to the Bond villain Pelosi Gallore.

So who within the GOP is up to the challenge in 2020?

Ted Cruz?

No he didn't. He did the right thing and read post #18 to see exactly what he did.

Damned impressive.
 
Trump let me down. I am not happy whatsoever.

-Geaux

Neither are Coulter or Rush.
Bad move for Trump that will burn him for years to come

-Geaux

how dare him do the right thing! folks like you will never let him live it down!

you are no better than all the Dems gloating about this.

Fuck all the beaners Pelosi and Schummer love. We are overrun with those losers adding to the 49% who pay no taxes but call the shots. Fuck them all, Trump too

-Geaux
 
The government reopened to pay the government workers. After three weeks if democrat leaders continue to prove not caring about our border. Trump will declare the emergency to build the wall.
He will lose in court

If he thought it would work, he would have done it a month ago and bypassed congress
 
The government reopened to pay the government workers. After three weeks if democrat leaders continue to prove not caring about our border. Trump will declare the emergency to build the wall.

There's no emergency. The undocumented are not coming here in droves like before and the drugs will get here no matter what. The p.o.s. in the oval office just wanted to hold a shutdown no matter how it hurt the country.
Fuck them, they can all go to hell

-Geaux
 
The government reopened to pay the government workers. After three weeks if democrat leaders continue to prove not caring about our border. Trump will declare the emergency to build the wall.
Then a federal judge will block it.

Wall won't be built, like I said all along. The left are losers and that includes republicans.

Start getting ready for socialism.

10 dollars a gallon for gas
Mass taxes on use of air conditioning and other luxuries that only rich socialists should enjoy.
Unreal long waits to see a doctor.
Stock up on as many tubes of toothpaste and over the counter medicine now.
That is my suggestion.
Because the example of other nations with Democratic Socalism are loathesome hellish places like Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany and Norway.

Honestly, the fear mongering ginned up by American Reactionaries can be staggering in its hyperbole.
 
Trump let me down. I am not happy whatsoever.

-Geaux

Neither are Coulter or Rush.
Bad move for Trump that will burn him for years to come

-Geaux

how dare him do the right thing! folks like you will never let him live it down!

you are no better than all the Dems gloating about this.

Fuck all the beaners Pelosi and Schummer love. We are overrun with those losers adding to the 49% who pay no taxes but call the shots. Fuck them all, Trump too

-Geaux

That's the spirit fuck them all.
 
Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached

From what I see it's a 3 week continuance.

Let's see if the Dems will actually negotiate now, or will they just keep demanding their way or the highway.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump's position 'my way or the highway'?

Shutting down the government is not the way political agendas are accomplished in this nation. Autocracies maybe, but not in a nation with three coequal branches of government. Shutting down the government is not the way to advance legislation either. And neither is declaring a National Emergency when no such emergency exists.

When a Democrat once again sits in the Oval Office, would it be appropriate to declare gun violence a National Emergency? Climate change? Wealth disparity? These three issues pose a much more dire and immediate threat to national security. A couple thousand foot sore Guatemalans can't threaten the security of the United States anymore than the Kiwanis or the Rotary Clubs can.
I agree with you about shutting down the government as a negotiating tool and declaring a national emergency over this. However, people need to stop rubbing each other's noses in this and get crackin' on coming up with a feasible border security plan that can be passed.
 
Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached

From what I see it's a 3 week continuance.

Let's see if the Dems will actually negotiate now, or will they just keep demanding their way or the highway.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Trump's position 'my way or the highway'?

Shutting down the government is not the way political agendas are accomplished in this nation. Autocracies maybe, but not in a nation with three coequal branches of government. Shutting down the government is not the way to advance legislation either. And neither is declaring a National Emergency when no such emergency exists.

When a Democrat once again sits in the Oval Office, would it be appropriate to declare gun violence a National Emergency? Climate change? Wealth disparity? These three issues pose a much more dire and immediate threat to national security. A couple thousand foot sore Guatemalans can't threaten the security of the United States anymore than the Kiwanis or the Rotary Clubs can.

How many shutdowns have we had before over political fighting? This isn't anything new.

And how many National Emergencies have been declared in the past?

The difference with this one is building a wall doesn't impact any of my rights. not. a. single. one.

It's funny that people like you are responsible for the breakdown of our civic discourse by calling anyone opposed to you evil via an "ist/ic" route, and then wonder why everything is so nasty nowadays.

Welcome to the fire you started, morons.
 
Bad poll numbers, airport problems and workers who don't want to work for free have forced Trump to concede to Democrats led by Nancy Pelosi:
Trump to speak after tentative deal to end shutdown is reached
He didn't cave dumbass. He did the right thing.

In his address he stated very clearly that a number of Democrats are
already on board that the country needs a wall.

He went on to remark that both sides have agreed to reach a proposal
that will be good to all parties involved.

As you wrote, he has passed along the shutting down of government
over to the Democrats. At the same time, he has allowed everybody
with a way to "save face."

The Bi-partisan committee is going to formulate its resolution on the
word of the experts provided by Homeland Security

Damned impressive.
 
The asshole caves after showing the country that the leviathan is unnecessary. What a shit heel.

We all knew it was unnecessary.

We did not need Trump to show us that, but you're right, he did.
 

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