Startup Org. to Out Seditious Civil Servants Who Might ‘Resist’ Trump

That's up to the voters, isn't it?
Not really. Congress passed the laws that created the modern federal Bureaucracy to prevent that type of political cronyism and Benedict Donald envisions.
the House was supposed to be the one part of government that most directly represented the people

The House elections should be changed to popular representation per party by a % of the state wide vote to prevent the type of Gerrymandering that both parties have used.
 
Not really. Congress passed the laws that created the modern federal Bureaucracy to prevent that type of political cronyism and Benedict Donald envisions.
The problem with that is we end up with an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy that has the power to in essence enforce policy for the government, no matter what the written policies are. Some would call that the deep state, a term that is used to ridicule, but one that is very real and very possible. There's a reason why an incoming president usually tries to get rid of as many holdovers from the previous administration as possible, because he/she doesn't want to hit opposition at every turn. There are extremes to be avoided, both on the autocratic and bureaucratic side. IOW, a president should not be dictator, but he/she should also not be figurehead to the real power, the entrenched bureaucracy.
The House elections should be changed to popular representation per party by a % of the state wide vote to prevent the type of Gerrymandering that both parties have used.
Gerrymandering sucks big time. Districts should be drawn as regular polygons containing the same number of people whose only distinguishing characteristics are size. It would take a computer a few seconds to generate them.
 
Not really. Congress passed the laws that created the modern federal Bureaucracy to prevent that type of political cronyism and Benedict Donald envisions.
I think the director of the FBI reports to the president. You should learn that.
 
There's a reason why an incoming president usually tries to get rid of as many holdovers from the previous administration as possible, because he/she doesn't want to hit opposition at every turn.
SOP

The United States Government Policy and Supporting Positions, or Plum Book, is used to identify presidentially appointed positions within the federal government. The 2016 Plum Book is available here and some updated information for a 2020 Plum Book is available here. It lists the over 9,000 potential civil service leadership and support positions in the Legislative and Executive branches of the federal government that may be subject to political appointments.

Published every four years after a presidential election, the Plum Book is best thought of as a snapshot of presidentially appointed positions within the federal government at the time of publishing.

 
I think the director of the FBI reports to the president. You should learn that.
"I, xxx, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

They are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate and serve at the pleasure of the President.

 
Imagine what Trump could have got done if the government was not full of saboteurs in his first term. This is a good start to weed these people out. When a president makes policies they need to be implemented not kneecapped by traitors.

"In a normal workplace, these employees would be fired for insubordination. In the most extreme of circumstances they would be charged with sedition against the government and punished accordingly, with execution not outside the range of possibilities.


Instead, many of these conspirators—some of them dedicated socialists—were celebrated for their efforts by the Trump-Deranged media and the Democrat leaders who egged them on. But the day of reckoning may arrive with a second Trump term that offers the benefit of hindsight, having rooted them out while their guard was down.


From his home office in small-town Kentucky, a seasoned political operative is quietly investigating scores of federal employees suspected of being hostile to Trump’s policies, an effort that dovetails with broader conservative preparations for a new White House.


Tom Jones and his American Accountability Foundation are digging into the backgrounds, social media posts and commentary of key high-ranking government employees, starting with the Department of Homeland Security, where one top official was recently found to harbor Hamas sympathies."

Trying to tell us “resistance is futile “, Borg?

#MAGAHIVEMIND
 
"I, xxx, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God."

They are appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate and serve at the pleasure of the President.

The president can fire the FBI director.
 
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Pretty fucked up

They want to replace career government officials with “loyalists”
I'm pretty sure this is a bullshit lie.

I have read large portions of this document. It does not seem in keeping with the tone of it.

Please link to the page or screen shot the page please, and quote the text.


It is a nine-hundred page document, so I want it narrowed down.
 
My bottom line remains, if an employee of an administration publicly declares his/her intention to actively resist the policies of the administration, there is no reason to keep that employee on staff.
I'm pretty sure this is a bullshit lie.

I have read large portions of this document. It does not seem in keeping with the tone of it.

Please link to the page or screen shot the page please, and quote the text.


It is a nine-hundred page document, so I want it narrowed down.
The fear is not rational, it's paranoia.
 
These questions would seem to violate EEO laws.
Nope.

Here is the link. The civil service was established after the strange story of the assassination of President James Garfield. Up until that time, part of the "spoils," of getting elected, was not only packing the courts with folks who were aminiable to your political party, but also to fire everyone in the government, and re-hire and pack the entire government.

Someone didn't get a job that they thought they were going to get? So they killed Garfield, and the leaders in D.C. decided maybe it was time for reform.


This does NOT mean that they thought that all hiring based on political ideology should be done away with. . . That the left is bitching in this thread, and seriously trying to say, that the Biden admin hasn't packed the bureaucracy with folks friendly to them? Is a lark, it really is. . . :lol:

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I assume they're getting around it since they're not the employer. They're just an "independent" screener.
They get around it, because the political patronage system in the civil service system is different than in employment in the private sector, it is specifically political, like when politicians appoint judges. It isn't as concerned with efficiently delivering service. This is not. . "on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, or sex. "

Trump is NOT the first president to do this. . I have no idea why you are all outraged now, just because he is so explicit about it.. :rolleyes:

Government is now, one of the biggest employers, they are, in and of themselves, an interest group. Congress is well aware, and now, this has become a problem.

Congress Must Pass the Preventing a Patronage System Act To Protect Federal Civil Servants’ Impartiality​


". . . The Trump administration used heretofore unnoticed authority for this unprecedented civil service restructuring scheme found in Title 5, Section 7511 of the U.S. Code. This statute specifically exempts from civil service job protections employees “whose position has been determined to be of a confidential, policy-determining, policy-making or policy-advocating character by … the President for a position that the President has excepted from the competitive service.”

Partisan political loyalty requirements for all government workers. In America or they're out. No way this could even be CONSIDERED here before. Now? No big deal.

It started when the establishment stabbed Trump and the Americans who voted for him in the back. That? Is treason. If the government had just cooperated with the will of the people, instead of attacking a president that the people voted for? We would not be here now.

I remember when the employees of the entire bureaucracy revolted after he was elected, and he had no idea who they were.
. . and then the leaks started in the press. . . and then the bogus impeachments. :rolleyes:

(I can't say I blame his paranoia and this move by his supporters after that last shitshow. TBH If the nation and the bureaucracy had just treated him and his supporters with a little decency and respect like we used to always do in this nation. meh.)

Unverified ‘alternative’ government accounts target Trump on Twitter​

January 27, 2017

Except that's not what Trump wants. He wants people who are loyal to him above all else. People who will do his bidding without question. He doesn't give to shits about people doing their jobs as long as they bend a knee before him.

Of course. That is what EVERY politician wants. That is what they all want. They all pack the bureaucracy with hires that are aligned with folks that think and feel just like them. They just aren't as obvious about it.

The old boy network has always worked the same for the past two and a half centuries, and anyone that says otherwise is either naive or lying.
 
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My bottom line remains, if an employee of an administration publicly declares his/her intention to actively resist the policies of the administration, there is no reason to keep that employee on staff.

The fear is not rational, it's paranoia.
Most folks on here do very little reading and research, and they just fall for propaganda and yes, fear.
 
Jan 6th footage proves you wrong, again. Some of them are very violent.

Hitler murdered his political opponents. The only President who routinely talks about getting away with murder or executing his opponents is Benedict Donald.
Then identify every violent person. They can and they do not. I wonder why. J6 was full of FBI and DHS agents.
 

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