Stop pussy footing around. Own your opinion

[JBond]

We should allow in those persecuted by the totalitarian ideology known as Islam. Let the others stay where they are.

I like that line of thinking actually. No one ASKS the simple question. Of where these war refugees WANT to live. They just want to survive. (the actual persecuted and at risk ones). So one day they are going to Australia and the next their told Mozambique or some damn place. A LOT have no real WISH to live a Western life. They just don't want to die in their home countries right now. I've seen dozens of interviews where these "refugees" are NOT SOLD on being citizens of Western countries.

And that's a problem. If we are imagining that they are becoming US citizens.

Not a fan of the Orange Guy. But FINALLY some world leader is talking about "safe zones" in Syria and Iraq. A MUCH better solution than ASSUMING that bulk of these people really WANT to be French or American. It is a totally fucked up situation that NONE of the G13 countries were pushing for safe zones in the conflict area. It's the largest failure of world leadership I've seen in my lifetime. Should have been done AT LEAST 3 or 4 years ago..

How about the other Muslim countries take in the refugees. Saw earlier tonight trump finally got a commitment from the Saudi's to take some. Not sure if that is good or bad based on history.

 

[MaryL]

I have NO PROBLEM banning ANYONE from our country that isn't a citizen & who practices Islam.

We live in the 21st century and only one faith professes & acts out like they're living in the 10th century.

Until they can join the rest of the world fuckem.

Liberalism is a illness. The only cure is a straight up dose of reality.

 

[JBond]

Firstt they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Another bed wetter. The Trump is gonna get you! Run! Hide!

 

[flacaltenn]

We should allow in those persecuted by the totalitarian ideology known as Islam. Let the others stay where they are.

I like that line of thinking actually. No one ASKS the simple question. Of where these war refugees WANT to live. They just want to survive. (the actual persecuted and at risk ones). So one day they are going to Australia and the next their told Mozambique or some damn place. A LOT have no real WISH to live a Western life. They just don't want to die in their home countries right now. I've seen dozens of interviews where these "refugees" are NOT SOLD on being citizens of Western countries.

And that's a problem. If we are imagining that they are becoming US citizens.

Not a fan of the Orange Guy. But FINALLY some world leader is talking about "safe zones" in Syria and Iraq. A MUCH better solution than ASSUMING that bulk of these people really WANT to be French or American. It is a totally fucked up situation that NONE of the G13 countries were pushing for safe zones in the conflict area. It's the largest failure of world leadership I've seen in my lifetime. Should have been done AT LEAST 3 or 4 years ago..

How about the other Muslim countries take in the refugees. Saw earlier tonight trump finally got a commitment from the Saudi's to take some. Not sure if that is good or bad based on history.

Gotta be part of the BETTER solution than ASSUMING they always wanted to be Germans, or French or Americans. Will never understand why the Arab countries or the West sat on their hands for 4 or 5 years and did not act to create safe zones in Syria and Iraq.

There's NOTHING left of Syria. Might as well start building a new one.

 

[JBond]

We should allow in those persecuted by the totalitarian ideology known as Islam. Let the others stay where they are.

I like that line of thinking actually. No one ASKS the simple question. Of where these war refugees WANT to live. They just want to survive. (the actual persecuted and at risk ones). So one day they are going to Australia and the next their told Mozambique or some damn place. A LOT have no real WISH to live a Western life. They just don't want to die in their home countries right now. I've seen dozens of interviews where these "refugees" are NOT SOLD on being citizens of Western countries.

And that's a problem. If we are imagining that they are becoming US citizens.

Not a fan of the Orange Guy. But FINALLY some world leader is talking about "safe zones" in Syria and Iraq. A MUCH better solution than ASSUMING that bulk of these people really WANT to be French or American. It is a totally fucked up situation that NONE of the G13 countries were pushing for safe zones in the conflict area. It's the largest failure of world leadership I've seen in my lifetime. Should have been done AT LEAST 3 or 4 years ago..

How about the other Muslim countries take in the refugees. Saw earlier tonight trump finally got a commitment from the Saudi's to take some. Not sure if that is good or bad based on history.

Gotta be part of the BETTER solution than ASSUMING they always wanted to be Germans, or French or Americans. Will never understand why the Arab countries or the West sat on their hands for 4 or 5 years and did not act to create safe zones in Syria and Iraq.

There's NOTHING left of Syria. Might as well start building a new one.

The leftist globalists want radical Islam in every country. Anything to undermine the current structure. Soros became a wealthy man destroying countries.

 

[FA_Q2]

I have a problem with any government entity that attempts to control religion. You still think that you will always be on the winning side of this and that is rather naive. A government that can ban Islam or outlaw its practice can do the same thing with Christianity.

Islam is not just a religion, it has it's own political and legal system, both of which are incompatible with ours.

While I do not concede that Islam must be both a religious and legal system, it is irrelevant. Communism is counter to being an American as well yet it is also protected under the first amendment.

So tell me, how many American communist are engaging in honor killings, terrorist attacks and advocating the killing of anyone who they think is evil, which includes just about anyone that doesn't adhere to their particular sect of islam? Let's just guess that only 1% think like that among the refugees, even though surveys show more, that would be around 5,500 in this country form 2007 to date. Are you really good with that?

This is all bloviating and a deflection.
How many of the refugees thus far have done any of that? How many have perpetrated terrorist actions?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Liberalism is a illness. The only cure is a straight up dose of reality.

I think liberalism is just fine, myself. It's these useful idiot leftists calling themselves liberal that is the real problem.

People like Sam Harris and Bil Maher are liberals who actually support liberal values. They may be drowned out by all the low functioning leftists such as are inflicted upon us here on a daily basis, but there are still a few here and there who support actual liberalism.

My way of looking at it is that a person can support liberalism or they can support Islam, but never the twain shall meet. The who defend Islam CANNOT be liberal by very nature of what they are defending.

 

[OKTexas]

I have a problem with any government entity that attempts to control religion. You still think that you will always be on the winning side of this and that is rather naive. A government that can ban Islam or outlaw its practice can do the same thing with Christianity.

Islam is not just a religion, it has it's own political and legal system, both of which are incompatible with ours.

While I do not concede that Islam must be both a religious and legal system, it is irrelevant. Communism is counter to being an American as well yet it is also protected under the first amendment.

So tell me, how many American communist are engaging in honor killings, terrorist attacks and advocating the killing of anyone who they think is evil, which includes just about anyone that doesn't adhere to their particular sect of islam? Let's just guess that only 1% think like that among the refugees, even though surveys show more, that would be around 5,500 in this country form 2007 to date. Are you really good with that?

This is all bloviating and a deflection.
How many of the refugees thus far have done any of that? How many have perpetrated terrorist actions?

The question is how many are acceptable to YOU? I can easily provide examples of refugees perpetrating attacks or be arrested on terrorism related charges, but what's the point if you're going to try to minimize them?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

FDR Barred Jewish immigration during WW II... sooooo......

 

[Coyote]

FDR Barred Jewish immigration during WW II... sooooo......

Yes. And look what happened. You seem to think that was a good thing.

 

[FA_Q2]

I have a problem with any government entity that attempts to control religion. You still think that you will always be on the winning side of this and that is rather naive. A government that can ban Islam or outlaw its practice can do the same thing with Christianity.

Islam is not just a religion, it has it's own political and legal system, both of which are incompatible with ours.

While I do not concede that Islam must be both a religious and legal system, it is irrelevant. Communism is counter to being an American as well yet it is also protected under the first amendment.

So tell me, how many American communist are engaging in honor killings, terrorist attacks and advocating the killing of anyone who they think is evil, which includes just about anyone that doesn't adhere to their particular sect of islam? Let's just guess that only 1% think like that among the refugees, even though surveys show more, that would be around 5,500 in this country form 2007 to date. Are you really good with that?

This is all bloviating and a deflection.
How many of the refugees thus far have done any of that? How many have perpetrated terrorist actions?

The question is how many are acceptable to YOU? I can easily provide examples of refugees perpetrating attacks or be arrested on terrorism related charges, but what's the point if you're going to try to minimize them?

The question is nonsense and you sidestepping naming those people is based on bull excuse.

 

[OKTexas]

Islam is not just a religion, it has it's own political and legal system, both of which are incompatible with ours.

While I do not concede that Islam must be both a religious and legal system, it is irrelevant. Communism is counter to being an American as well yet it is also protected under the first amendment.

So tell me, how many American communist are engaging in honor killings, terrorist attacks and advocating the killing of anyone who they think is evil, which includes just about anyone that doesn't adhere to their particular sect of islam? Let's just guess that only 1% think like that among the refugees, even though surveys show more, that would be around 5,500 in this country form 2007 to date. Are you really good with that?

This is all bloviating and a deflection.
How many of the refugees thus far have done any of that? How many have perpetrated terrorist actions?

The question is how many are acceptable to YOU? I can easily provide examples of refugees perpetrating attacks or be arrested on terrorism related charges, but what's the point if you're going to try to minimize them?

The question is nonsense and you sidestepping naming those people is based on bull excuse.

Thanks for proving my point. The Boston bombers came here as refugees. Now here's a couple of more recent examples.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/08/...alifornia-accused-of-terrorism-ties.html?_r=0

Exclusive: 'Dozens' of Terrorists May Be in US as Refugees

I think one is too many, now answer my question. How many are acceptable to you?