bodecea
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- #121
When posters like Ollie say they support the traditions of our Founders....you know they are either lying or really ignorant of our history.I have never had an issue with children reciting the pledge of allegience - particularly as part of teaching civics (is that even taught any more?)....but I do have an issue with the addition of "God" - something added long after the pledge was written, in fact - it was added under Eisenhower through pressure from the religious right as a statement against "godless communism". Allegience to a diety - which it essentially is - belongs in the realm of the churches, not public school systems. I'm picky about my dieties.
Whether you like it or not our founding fathers held God In high regard. I bet you don't have any problems with US currency.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed .."
"Whether you like it or not our founding fathers held God In high regard. I bet you don't have any problems with US currency."
our original currency (printed by our forefathers) did NOT have "one nation under god" printed on it.
that wasn't added until AFTER the civil war (thanks to the shrill shrieks of whinny conservative christians who just REFUSED to leave America alone and must have HATED our original forefathers)
Our original motto was "e pluribus unum",
it was changed AFTER the civil (thanks to the shrill shrieks of whinny conservative christians who just REFUSED to leave America alone and must have HATED our original forefathers)
Our original pledge did NOT include "under god"
that was added in the 1950's during the right wing mcarthy red scare
(thanks to the shrill shrieks of whinny conservative christians who just REFUSED to leave America alone and must have HATED our original forefathers)
so
if you really think that we should just restore things to the way our forefathers set them then you should SUPPORT the REMOVAL of all those god references.