Studies confirm: Trump voters were motivated by racial prejudice — not ‘economic anxiety’

[oreo]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

 

[danielpalos]

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

We have let in 40 million illegals into this country. If you think that doesn't drive down wages, you're an idiot.

Might be 50 million.

only True socialists don't like to compete; ask Boss or Ding.

Feel free to move to Mexico and compete with Mexicans earning $0.50/hr.

I prefer to stay in my home country, and advocate for better government.

 

[danielpalos]

but what should we be cutting?
immigrants help the economy.

Good for the immigrants.

The discussion is about illegal immigrants

It's actually about all immigrants, but illegals aggravate an already serious problem.

Oh, so even legal immigrants are bad? You are of Native American descent or you are a hypocrite?

Yes. It doesn't matter whether they are legal or illegal, 40 million immigrants from a low wage country are going to suppress American wages. Illegal immigration needs to be eliminated, and legal immigration needs to be reduced significantly.

shall we ship the statue of liberty to canada?

I already made a motion to give our Statue of Liberty back to the French and, "blame the right wing".

 

[JustAnotherNut]

It became conventional wisdom during the presidential campaign that Donald Trump supporters were motivated by bigotry, until the Republican candidate won and it became politically incorrect for Democrats to say that.

But the problem with that forgiving logic is, it’s just not really true, reported The Intercept.

“Whether it’s good politics to say so or not, the evidence from the 2016 election is very clear that attitudes about blacks, immigrants, and Muslims were a key component of Trump’s appeal,” Philip Klinkner, a political scientist at Hamilton College, told the website.

An entire genre of newspaper reports has profiled Trump supporters who regret their votes, now that programs they use are on the chopping block, or still back the president — but a common theme is their disdain for “illegal” immigrants and changing U.S. demographics.

What was stunning to me was this bigotry toward Hispanics in this country. I live in a heavily populated Hispanic state (Colorado) and have-lived here all my life, and am used to hearing Spanish everywhere I go, many of us are bi-lengual because of this diversity, and we all get along just fine. My nefew married an hispanic woman. Their family ties are as strong as ours if not stronger--and we don't notice the difference between white and brown in this state. We're not segregated by any means, nor do we want to be.

I could not believe the hate and angry coming out of these Trump rallies across this country. Mexico used to own the entire southwest of this country before the white man ever showed up.

This candidate was campaigning on WALL building, threatening Mexico, threatening Mexicans who have lived in this country for decades, and I found that disgusting. I found Trump supporters to be disgusting. What I thought no longer existed in this country, bigotry, came out from under their rocks and showed up for Donald Trump.

Even people I thought were not racists, actually were. They were just very good at hiding it well, until Trump showed up.

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

We've been in that drug war for years......where have you been?

 

[danielpalos]

Good for the immigrants.

The discussion is about illegal immigrants

It's actually about all immigrants, but illegals aggravate an already serious problem.

Oh, so even legal immigrants are bad? You are of Native American descent or you are a hypocrite?

Yes. It doesn't matter whether they are legal or illegal, 40 million immigrants from a low wage country are going to suppress American wages. Illegal immigration needs to be eliminated, and legal immigration needs to be reduced significantly.

shall we ship the statue of liberty to canada?

What doe the Statue of Liberty have to do with illegals?

We have a Commerce Clause.

 

[Correll]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Your desire for cheap slave labor does not trump the law.

Deport the illegals. Deport them ALL.

 

[danielpalos]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Once again a liberal doesn't use or evidently understand the word ILLEGAL.

We have a Commerce Clause, all they need do is look for a job.

 

[danielpalos]

What was stunning to me was this bigotry toward Hispanics in this country. I live in a heavily populated Hispanic state (Colorado) and have-lived here all my life, and am used to hearing Spanish everywhere I go, many of us are bi-lengual because of this diversity, and we all get along just fine. My nefew married an hispanic woman. Their family ties are as strong as ours if not stronger--and we don't notice the difference between white and brown in this state. We're not segregated by any means, nor do we want to be.

I could not believe the hate and angry coming out of these Trump rallies across this country. Mexico used to own the entire southwest of this country before the white man ever showed up.

This candidate was campaigning on WALL building, threatening Mexico, threatening Mexicans who have lived in this country for decades, and I found that disgusting. I found Trump supporters to be disgusting. What I thought no longer existed in this country, bigotry, came out from under their rocks and showed up for Donald Trump.

Even people I thought were not racists, actually were. They were just very good at hiding it well, until Trump showed up.

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Trump and Russia started the Drug War? Who knew?

Your guy is in office now; are we, "getting Commercial" or not.

 

[Correll]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Once again a liberal doesn't use or evidently understand the word ILLEGAL.

We have a Commerce Clause, all they need do is look for a job.

All they need to do is go home.

They can do it on their own, or with a boot up their ass. THe choice is theirs.

 

[Unkotare]

It became conventional wisdom during the presidential campaign that Donald Trump supporters were motivated by bigotry, until the Republican candidate won and it became politically incorrect for Democrats to say that.

But the problem with that forgiving logic is, it’s just not really true, reported The Intercept.

“Whether it’s good politics to say so or not, the evidence from the 2016 election is very clear that attitudes about blacks, immigrants, and Muslims were a key component of Trump’s appeal,” Philip Klinkner, a political scientist at Hamilton College, told the website.

An entire genre of newspaper reports has profiled Trump supporters who regret their votes, now that programs they use are on the chopping block, or still back the president — but a common theme is their disdain for “illegal” immigrants and changing U.S. demographics.

What was stunning to me was this bigotry toward Hispanics in this country. I live in a heavily populated Hispanic state (Colorado) and have-lived here all my life, and am used to hearing Spanish everywhere I go, many of us are bi-lengual because of this diversity, and we all get along just fine. My nefew married an hispanic woman. Their family ties are as strong as ours if not stronger--and we don't notice the difference between white and brown in this state. We're not segregated by any means, nor do we want to be.

I could not believe the hate and angry coming out of these Trump rallies across this country. Mexico used to own the entire southwest of this country before the white man ever showed up.

This candidate was campaigning on WALL building, threatening Mexico, threatening Mexicans who have lived in this country for decades, and I found that disgusting. I found Trump supporters to be disgusting. What I thought no longer existed in this country, bigotry, came out from under their rocks and showed up for Donald Trump.

Even people I thought were not racists, actually were. They were just very good at hiding it well, until Trump showed up.

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Spam

 

[danielpalos]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Global warming can lead to global sea rising. It may potentially be useful.

I guess the progressives, "missed the boat" in trying to get a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage passed, to get people to work.

 

[danielpalos]

What was stunning to me was this bigotry toward Hispanics in this country. I live in a heavily populated Hispanic state (Colorado) and have-lived here all my life, and am used to hearing Spanish everywhere I go, many of us are bi-lengual because of this diversity, and we all get along just fine. My nefew married an hispanic woman. Their family ties are as strong as ours if not stronger--and we don't notice the difference between white and brown in this state. We're not segregated by any means, nor do we want to be.

I could not believe the hate and angry coming out of these Trump rallies across this country. Mexico used to own the entire southwest of this country before the white man ever showed up.

This candidate was campaigning on WALL building, threatening Mexico, threatening Mexicans who have lived in this country for decades, and I found that disgusting. I found Trump supporters to be disgusting. What I thought no longer existed in this country, bigotry, came out from under their rocks and showed up for Donald Trump.

Even people I thought were not racists, actually were. They were just very good at hiding it well, until Trump showed up.

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

We've been in that drug war for years......where have you been?

should we give the right wing, "the memo", so they can stop blaming the poor for the debt or their tax burden?

 

[danielpalos]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Your desire for cheap slave labor does not trump the law.

Deport the illegals. Deport them ALL.

It is a matter of priority; first degrees should go first.

 

[danielpalos]

What was stunning to me was this bigotry toward Hispanics in this country. I live in a heavily populated Hispanic state (Colorado) and have-lived here all my life, and am used to hearing Spanish everywhere I go, many of us are bi-lengual because of this diversity, and we all get along just fine. My nefew married an hispanic woman. Their family ties are as strong as ours if not stronger--and we don't notice the difference between white and brown in this state. We're not segregated by any means, nor do we want to be.

I could not believe the hate and angry coming out of these Trump rallies across this country. Mexico used to own the entire southwest of this country before the white man ever showed up.

This candidate was campaigning on WALL building, threatening Mexico, threatening Mexicans who have lived in this country for decades, and I found that disgusting. I found Trump supporters to be disgusting. What I thought no longer existed in this country, bigotry, came out from under their rocks and showed up for Donald Trump.

Even people I thought were not racists, actually were. They were just very good at hiding it well, until Trump showed up.

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Spam

fallacy is spam. you need a valid argument; spammer.

 

[Unkotare]

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Spam

fallacy is spam. you need a valid argument; spammer.

You posting the same damn nonsense over and over again is spam.

 

[Correll]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Your desire for cheap slave labor does not trump the law.

Deport the illegals. Deport them ALL.

It is a matter of priority; first degrees should go first.

You don't understand the meaning of the word, focus.

It's doesn't mean that anyone not a serious offender get's a pass, until all the hard core criminals are taken care of.


Pedro go home.

 

[boedicca]

So you think enforcing our immigration laws is "disgusting?" The only thing illegals are being "threatened" with is enforcing the laws on the books. You have to be a moron or a douche bag to object to that.

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Trump and Russia started the Drug War? Who knew?

Your guy is in office now; are we, "getting Commercial" or not.

Are you a time traveler from the Dark Ages? The U.S. has been commercial for ages.

 

[danielpalos]

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Spam

fallacy is spam. you need a valid argument; spammer.

You posting the same damn nonsense over and over again is spam.

it is relevant, dear. the right wing, never gets it.

 

[danielpalos]

i don't know why anyone wants more imported people of any type in the USA . Regarding economy as a reason for more immigration . My parents had excellent money making conditions after ww2 when my Dad and Uncles all left the USA military and went to work at various jobs when the USA population was maybe 150 million Americans . Same for me who started working a Railroad job that was good enough to keep in 1969 when USA population was about 210 million Americans . Now the USA population is about 310 million in 2010 with millions of uncounted illegal aliens and young milenials are seen riding skateboards , getting tattoos , living in their parents basement and if they have jobs as a married couple both work at places like -wal mart- or 'mcdonalds' while paying off huge student loans [chuckle] and buying disposable diapers at -wal mart- . And in closing , think that it was about the 1980 - 1990 when living in America required a married couple to both have jobs to simply pay bills , pay student loans , pay car insurance , health insurance and already mentioned disposable diapers . -------------------- yeah , immigration is making every American Wealthy [chuckle] .

I think the problem here is that you really think "immigrants" are the cause of these problems.

The thing is when your dad and mine left the military after WWII, there were plenty of jobs because we had the only industrial infrastructure left after the war.

The problem was of course, is that the people who ran our industries didn't modernize or keep up... not that bad old immigrants took those jobs.

Now, the thing was, yes, in the 1980's, two parent income became the norm. This was partly due to hyper-inflation in the 1970's followed by severe deunionization in the early 1980s driving down wages. Another factor, less talked about was feminism making it more normal for a woman to work outside the home.

When you can hire a woman for 70% of what you pay a man, and she does a better job, why wouldn't you?

Again, none of this had anything to do with bad old immigrants, doing immigrant stuff.

Nor millennials living in their parents basements. Do you really think they wouldn't be living in Mom's basement if they could get those great floor-sweeping jobs the Mexicans are taking? Don't be daft. They didn't go to college for 4 years to do that.

Well if kids in the country wouldn't take under water basket weaving class's in college they probably would be able to get a decent job.

Look we already have an experiment with what happened in Alabama when they chased out all illegals. It wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

You just can't get white workers to do the work of illegals in this country. If you come back and state because farmers, milk--eggs-- fruit and veggie producers in this country are not paying enough, then I want you imagine what your grocery bills would look like--after these people stopped using migrant--illegal workers. The worst hurt would be the Trump voter, becaiuse the majority of them are poor, or elderly on a fixed income. They wouldn't be able to afford to EAT.
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences
Alabama Illegal Immigrant Crackdown Destroys Farm Business

Which is why DONALD TRUMP staffs his hotels with immigrants many of them with what you would consider illegals. Trump even stated he needed them. He's not going to hire someone that expects to make 50K a year for cleaning hotel rooms.
At Trump hotel site, immigrant workers wary

Your desire for cheap slave labor does not trump the law.

Deport the illegals. Deport them ALL.

It is a matter of priority; first degrees should go first.

You don't understand the meaning of the word, focus.

It's doesn't mean that anyone not a serious offender get's a pass, until all the hard core criminals are taken care of.


Pedro go home.

it is a matter of degree; first degrees need to go, first.

 

[danielpalos]

We have one of the largest economies in the entire world; illegal immigration is not the problem. lousy management is the problem.

That so called 'largest economy' isn't based on a solid foundation....it's been falsely pumped up & over-inflated by continually raising the debt limit and printing excesses of past years.......under previous managers. Can't blame that one on Trump......or Russia

yet, we can afford a drug war?

Trump and Russia started the Drug War? Who knew?

Your guy is in office now; are we, "getting Commercial" or not.

Are you a time traveler from the Dark Ages? The U.S. has been commercial for ages.

Nothing but diversion? Is Mr. Trump going to be legal to our Commerce Clause, or not, regarding our alleged, War on Drugs?