Suggestion to Moderate Muslims

[RetiredGySgt]

Before the terrorists and Jihadists get you killed , if you actually out number them and are in fact a member of a peaceful religion do something about them. Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

 

[georgephillip]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

 

[Two Thumbs]

Before the terrorists and Jihadists get you killed , if you actually out number them and are in fact a member of a peaceful religion do something about them. Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

If they were going to do something, it would have been done by now

 

[Two Thumbs]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

 

[Sally]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

You have to admit that Gaza George is one fine Dhimmi.

 

[Sally]

Before the terrorists and Jihadists get you killed , if you actually out number them and are in fact a member of a peaceful religion do something about them. Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

I don't think we should hold our breaths waiting for this to happen.


Young Dutch Turks radical views worry MPs call for more research - DutchNews.nl

Turks increasingly sympathetic to Islamic State - Al-Monitor the Pulse of the Middle East#

Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News Some pro-terror Facebook entries of UNRWA teachers

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

Provide evidence that millions have died due to the Iraq Invasion.

 

[Mineva]

Before the terrorists and Jihadists get you killed , if you actually out number them and are in fact a member of a peaceful religion do something about them. Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Islam and terrorism cannot be side by side. Does not matter what they claim, this is something concers all the World, not only muslims. Stop supporting dictators and stop feeding terrorist organizations. Then they will dissappear themselves, you wont need to tire your arms to throw stones.

 

[I.P.Freely]

Muslim Leaders Worldwide Condemn ISIS Washington s Blog
Many Americans Want to Know Why Muslims Aren’t Condemning ISIS
ABC News’ Laura Ingraham, Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Fox & Friends and other U.S. media commentators say that Muslims are silent and complicit in the barbarian crimes of ISIS. Fox News hostAndrea Tantaros said that all Muslims are the same as ISIS, and implied that all Muslims should be met “with a bullet to the head”.

Why don’t we hear Muslims condemning the barbarian ISIS terrorists?

Turns out they are loudly condemning ISIS … but our press isn’t covering it.

Father Elias Mallon of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association explains:

“Why aren’t Muslims speaking out against these atrocities?” The answer is: Muslimshave been speaking out in the strongest terms, condemning the crimes against humanity committed by ISIS (or, as it is increasingly called, IS) and others in the name of Islam.

Father Mallon is right …

Vatican Radio – an official Vatican news site – reported last month:

Two of the leading voices in the Muslim world denounced the persecution of Christians in Iraq, at the hands of extremists proclaiming a caliphate under the name Islamic State.

The most explicit condemnation came from Iyad Ameen Madani, the Secretary General for the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the group representing 57 countries, and1.4 billion Muslims.

In a statement, he officially denounced the “forced deportation under the threat of execution” of Christians, calling it a “crime that cannot be tolerated.” The Secretary General also distanced Islam from the actions of the militant group known as ISIS, saying they “have nothing to do with Islam and its principles that call for justice, kindness, fairness, freedom of faith and coexistence.”

Meanwhile, Turkey’s top cleric, the spiritual successor to the caliphate under the Ottoman Empire, also touched on the topic during a peace conference of Islamic scholars.

In a not-so-veiled swipe at ISIS, Mehmet Gormez declared that “an entity that lacks legal justification has no authority to declare war against a political gathering, any country or community.” He went on to say that Muslims should not be hostile towards “people with different views, values and beliefs, and regard them as enemies.”

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Gormez said death threats against non-Muslims made by the group, formerly known as Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), were hugely damaging. “The statement made against Christians is truly awful. Islamic scholars need to focus on this (because) an inability to peacefully sustain other faiths and cultures heralds the collapse of a civilization,” he told Reuters in an interview.

The Independent noted last month:

Muslim leaders in Britain have condemned the extremist group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isis), expressing their “grave concern” at continued violence in its name.

Representatives from both the Sunni and Shia groups in the UK met at the Palace of Westminster and relayed their message that the militant group does not represent the majority of Muslims.

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Shuja Shafi, of the Muslim Council of Great Britain, said: “Violence has no place in religion, violence has no religion.

100 Sunni and Shiite religious leaders from the U.K. produced a video denouncing the Islamic State, saying they wanted to “come together to emphasise the importance of unity in the UK and to decree ISIS as an illegitimate, vicious group who do not represent Islam in any way.”

Breitbart noted earlier this month:

Two prominent Muslim leaders are urging Muslim men not to join the radical jihadists.

“The public have to be critical. This is not about [establishing] a Caliphate [Islamic State]; but [a group] working for its own cause and gains from a sectarian issue,” said Nahdlatul Ulama executive council chair, Slamet Effendy Yusuf.

The Nahdlatul Ulama is one of the largest Islamic organizations in the world and concentrates on traditional Islam.

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Muhammadiyah, an organization with 29 million members, is more modern, well-known for educational activities, and avoids politics. Secretary Abdul Mu’ti said ISIS does not represent Islam.

“That’s my point, this [movement] is not in the context of religion [Islam],” Abdul said. “We all need to question the group’s goals. Don’t just follow radicals who tried to win their own wars in other countries; we will be the ones to suffer losses.”

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These men are not the first Muslim leaders to denounce the Islamic State. The International Union of Muslim Scholars (IUMS) spoke out against IS’s expulsion of Christians in Mosul. The group claimed the rejection served to “violate Islamic laws, Islamic conscience and leave but a negative image of Islam and Muslims.”

Al Arabiya News reports that the Arab League Chief denounced acts committed by the Islamic State in Iraq as “crimes against humanity,” demanding that they be brought to justice, and he:

Strongly denounced the crimes, killings, dispossession carried out by the terrorist (ISIS) against civilians and minorities in Iraq that have affected Christians in Mosul and Yazidis.

The Daily Star writes that Egypt’s highest religious authority – Al-Azhar’s Grand Mufti Shawqi Allam - denounced the Islamic State as a threat to Islam and said that the group violates Islamic law:

[They] give an opportunity for those who seek to harm us, to destroy us and interfere in our affairs with the [pretext of a] call to fight terrorism.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – the largest Muslim group in the U.S. – called ISIS un-Islamic and morally repugnant,” noted that the Islamic State’s “human rights abuses on the ground are well-documented,” called the Islamic State “both un-Islamic and morally repugnant” and called the killing of American journalist James Foley “gruesome and barbaric”. See this, this and this.

The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) – the largest Muslim organization on the continent - released a statement denouncing the Islamic State “for its attacks on Iraq’s religious minorities and the destruction of their places of worship.” ISNA President Imam Mohamed Magid said, “ISIS actions against religious minorities in Iraq violate the Quranic teaching, ‘Let there be no compulsion in religion’ … ” adding, “Their actions are to be denounced and are in no way representative of what Islam actually teaches.” INSA condemned the vicious execution of Foley at the hands of the terrorist group ISIS, terming it as “un-Islamic behaviour”, and said:

ISIS actions have never been representative nor in accordance to the mainstream teachings of Islam. This act of murder cannot be justified according to the faith practiced by over 1.6 billion people.

The head Shia religious leader in Iraq and Sunni religious leaders in Iraq have all condemned – and called for war against – ISIS.

Al Jazeera reports:

Saudi Arabia’s highest religious authority has condemned the armed groups Islamic State and al-Qaeda as apostates and labelled them the “number one enemy of Islam”.

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“Extremist and militant ideas and terrorism which spread decay on Earth, destroying human civilisation, are not in any way part of Islam, but are enemy number one of Islam, and Muslims are their first victims” ….

The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) released a statement condemning “the barbaric execution of American Journalist James Foley by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).” MPAC urged “all people of conscience to take a stand against extremism” and offered condolences to Foley’s family. MPAC also noted the importance of countering ISIS and other extremist groups by working “to empower the mainstream and relegate extremists to the irrelevance they deserve.”this, this, this, this, this, this, this and this. Hardly the acts of devout Muslims.

Huffington Post reports:

Can you guess which books the wannabe jihadists Yusuf Sarwar and Mohammed Ahmed ordered online from Amazon before they set out from Birmingham to fight in Syria last May? A copy of Milestones by the Egyptian Islamist Sayyid Qutb? No. How aboutMessages to the World: the Statements of Osama Bin Laden? Guess again. Wait, The Anarchist Cookbook, right? Wrong.

Sarwar and Ahmed, both of whom pleaded guilty to terrorism offences last month, purchased Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies. You could not ask for better evidence to bolster the argument that the 1,400-year-old Islamic faith has little to do with the modern jihadist movement. The swivel-eyed young men who take sadistic pleasure in bombings and beheadings may try to justify their violence with recourse to religious rhetoric – think the killers of Lee Rigby screaming “Allahu Akbar” at their trial; think of Islamic State beheading the photojournalist James Foley as part of its “holy war” – but religious fervour isn’t what motivates most of them.

In 2008, a classified briefing note on radicalisation, prepared by MI5′s behavioural science unit, was leaked to the Guardian. It revealed that, “far from being religious zealots, a large number of those involved in terrorism do not practise their faith regularly. Many lack religious literacy and could . . . be regarded as religious novices.” The analysts concluded that “a well-established religious identity actually protects against violent radicalisation“, the newspaper said. [Here's the Guardian report.]

For more evidence, read the books of the forensic psychiatrist and former CIA officer Marc Sageman; the political scientist Robert Pape [Pape found that foreign occupation - and not religion - made certain Arabs into terrorists; the CIA's top Bin Laden hunter agreed]; the international relations scholar Rik Coolsaet; the Islamism expert Olivier Roy; the anthropologist Scott Atran. They have all studied the lives and backgrounds of hundreds of gun-toting, bomb-throwing jihadists and they all agree that Islam isn’t to blame for the behaviour of such men (and, yes, they usually are men).

Instead they point to other drivers of radicalisation ….

When he lived in the Philippines in the 1990s, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, described as “the principal architect” of the 11 September attacks by the 9/11 Commission, once flew a helicopter past a girlfriend’s office building with a banner saying “I love you”. His nephew Ramzi Yousef, sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, also had a girlfriend and, like his uncle, was often spotted in Manila’s red-light district. The FBI agent who hunted Yousef said that he “hid behind a cloak of Islam”. Eyewitness accounts suggest the 9/11 hijackers were visiting bars and strip clubs in Florida and Las Vegas in the run-up to the attacks. The Spanish neighbours of Hamid Ahmidan, convicted for his role in the Madrid train bombings of 2004, remember him “zooming by on a motorcycle with his long-haired girlfriend, a Spanish woman with a taste for revealing outfits”, according to press reports.

And alleged Boston marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a pothead. And his brother Tamerlan looked more like an ego-driven hustler than a devout Muslim (that’s his Mercedes in the background).

I agree with Bill O’Reilly when he said that it is unfair to call the Norwegian mass murderer a “Christian”. Likewise, we shouldn’t call Arab terrorists “Muslims”.

Postscript: I am not a Muslim. I am, however, American. And knee-jerk hatred of any group of people based on their religion – including Christians, Jews or Muslims, – is deeply anti-American.

And the most crazed, radical Islamic terrorists would never have gained power if the U.S. and our allies hadn’t overthrown the more moderate Arab leaders.

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[georgephillip]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

Provide evidence that millions have died due to the Iraq Invasion.

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

Provide evidence that millions have died due to the Iraq Invasion.

Try responding to what I wrote instead of contrived straw men; millions of Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced by the US invasion of Iraq.

 

[georgephillip]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

Yuk it up, Clown.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

You have to admit that Gaza George is one fine Dhimmi.

Who? What?

 

[Two Thumbs]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

Yuk it up, Clown.

That's an armed soldier, not millions of innocent muslims ya lying fuck stick

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Before the terrorists and Jihadists get you killed , if you actually out number them and are in fact a member of a peaceful religion do something about them. Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Here is the problem as I see it. The word "moderate" as it is most often used does not mean moderate by our standards, but by theirs. It is entirely relativist. A "Moderate" Muslim adheres to a value system that is quite extreme by our standards, as they are still totalitarian in political outlook, but only differ from the terrorists as to methods for achieving it.

Also, because the term is so relativist, it has experienced considerable creep in application over the years. As the leading edge of Islam becomes more and more barbaric -- ISIS being the latest standards bearer -- what is being called moderate keeps moving. Heck, the fucking Muslim Brotherhood is now being referred to as moderate, and this most definitely wasn't the case 50 or even 20 years ago.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You have to admit that Gaza George is one fine Dhimmi.

Or wants the rest of us to be his.

I think we all tend to create pictures of various posters as being westerners, but Islamists are all over the internet plying their craft. Now, George here seems to be about 20 IQ points below average, and so could be attributed to mere stupidity and Dhimmitude, but I do believe there are some committed propagandists working various discussion boards.

 

[SAYIT]

Speak out, stop them from blackening the supposed peaceful religion of Islam with mass murder the murder of innocent women and children the murder of innocent civilians and the terror they launch in the name of Islam.

Since millions of innocent Muslim civilians have been maimed, murdered, and displaced because of an illegal invasion/occupation of Iraq, why aren't you calling on Americans to first end the "war on terror?"

You have the right to repeat (ad nauseam) any silliness you choose but once again you lamely attempt to deflect from the realities of the Arab/Muslim Mideast and the viciously perverse Islamist culture which infects it.
Yazidi families struggle to find and free enslaved daughters Al Jazeera America

 

[georgephillip]

That's an armed soldier, not millions of innocent muslims ya lying fuck stick

How many innocent Muslims did he maim, murder, or displace. You seem to think the deaths of Muslims is comical,
Remember, flag-flap?

 

[Two Thumbs]

That's an armed soldier, not millions of innocent muslims ya lying fuck stick

How many innocent Muslims did he maim, murder, or displace. You seem to think the deaths of Muslims is comical,
Remember, flag-flap?

you claimed a million, that was what was funny

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I just paid a thousand bucks for a Palestinian falafel.

A buck of that was for the ingredients and 999 bucks went for the advertising campaign.

 

[georgephillip]

you claimed a million, that was what was funny

I claimed millions of dead, maimed and displaced Muslims.
Why would you find that funny?