Supreme Court: Coach Can Pray on the Sidelines. Ruling 6-3

[Billy_Bob]

Nothing done on the 50 yard line after a game with people still there can be called private.

IT does not have to be private... Public displays are not illegal. As long as he was not coercing others it violates no law and is protected under the 1st amendment.

GET OVER IT!

 

[Sunsettommy]

From the article:

"The Court's majority opinion noted that Kennedy had "voluntarily discontinued the school tradition of locker-room prayers and his postgame religious talks to students," and that the school district only took action against him "only for his decision to persist in praying quietly without his players after three games in October 2015."

At the District’s request, he voluntarily discontinued the school tradition of locker-room prayers and his postgame religious talks to students. The District disciplined him only for his decision to persist in praying quietly without his players after three games in October 2015."

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He wasn't disciplined for prayers in the lockeroom where it could be construed as being forced onto some players to the 50 yard line that wasn't forcing anything onto anyone else.

The school district was being inconsistent here.

 

[Meister]

If you are a second string Wide Receiver and all other Wide a receivers are praying at the 50 yard line…….are you being coerced to join in?

no

 

[okfine]

You are deflecting to something else.

Try again.

It's not much different.

 

[Sunsettommy]

If you are a second string Wide Receiver and all other Wide a receivers are praying at the 50 yard line…….are you being coerced to join in?

The article doesn't say a word about their being coerced thus you are making this up out of the air because you are trying to find away to dispute the ruling.

 

[rightwinger]

But, that wasn't the intent of the Constitution.
That was legislating from the bench.

You need to take in account where the FF's influence came from. It came from a country that
the Church dictated politics to the King. That is not the case with all the subsequence rulings regarding the subject
of the separation between church and state.

That was the intent of the Constitution to block Government establishment of religion

In this case, the school is an agent of the Government

 

[rightwinger]

The article doesn't say a word about their being coerced thus you are making this up out of the air because you are trying to find away to dispute the ruling.

The opposing opinions talk about coercion

 

[Meister]

That was the intent of the Constitution to block Government establishment of religion

In this case, the school is an agent of the Government

And the coach didn't promote any religion when he was praying on the 50 yard line.
He didn't use a megaphone promoting his religion

 

[Sunsettommy]

Nothing done on the 50 yard line after a game with people still there can be called private.

Now you are entering the twilight zone because the middle of the 50 yard line is over 50 feet from the stands which people are in the business of leaving.

There are no mention of players and people from the stands complaining about the prayers they can't hear in the article.

Your desperation is obvious bringing up bogus arguments.

 

[Billy_Bob]

That was the intent of the Constitution to block Government establishment of religion

In this case, the school is an agent of the Government

Was he forming a religious power over the government or mandating a religion of the government? No, he wasn't... Epic Failure

 

[Sunsettommy]

The opposing opinions talk about coercion

But they didn't show it was real outside of their dissenting heads and the article doesn't mention it either.

 

[rightwinger]

But they didn't show it was real outside of their dissenting heads and the article doesn't mention it either.

Today’s decision is particularly misguided because it elevates the religious rights of a school official, who voluntarily accepted public employment and the limits that public employment entails, over those of his students, who are required to attend school and who this Court has long recognized are particularly vulnerable and deserving of protection," Sotomayor wrote. "In doing so, the Court sets us further down a perilous path in forcing States to entangle themselves with religion, with all of our rights hanging in the balance."

 

[rightwinger]

Was he forming a religious power over the government or mandating a religion of the government? No, he wasn't... Epic Failure

Yes, in expressing his religious views publicly and encouraging “voluntary“ participation he was coercing participation from players who depend on him for playing time

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yes, in expressing his religious views publicly and encouraging “voluntary“ participation he was coercing participation from players who depend on him for playing time

Voluntary is not coercing.... You destroyed your own argument.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Now you are entering the twilight zone because the middle of the 50 yard line is over 50 feet from the stands which people are in the business of leaving.

There are no mention of players and people from the stands complaining about the prayers they can't hear in the article.

Your desperation is obvious bringing up bogus arguments.

Perhaps you do not understand what the word "private" means.

I have no desperation, I am expressing my view of this ruling.

That is all.

Why is everything about emotions with you?

 

[Meister]

Yes, in expressing his religious views publicly and encouraging “voluntary“ participation he was coercing participation from players who depend on him for playing time

Whoa.....that is really stretching it even for you, RW.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Whoa.....that is really stretching it even for you, RW.

Is it though?

Did you ever do any sports in high school?

 

[Sunsettommy]

That was the intent of the Constitution to block Government establishment of religion

In this case, the school is an agent of the Government

Once again have to educate you as you keep disrespecting the First Amendment:

Cornell Law

Amendment I​

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

 

[Meister]

Perhaps you do not understand what the word "private" means.

I have no desperation, I am expressing my view of this ruling.

That is all.

Why is everything about emotions with you?

Private:
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.


He was kneeling alone on the 50 yard line....alone, praying.
Nobody was coerced to join in.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Private:
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.


He was kneeling alone on the 50 yard line....alone, praying.
Nobody was coerced to join in.

clearly he was not alone.

Nobody was overtly coerced to join in.