Supreme Court: Coach Can Pray on the Sidelines. Ruling 6-3

[Billy_Bob]

Not what the story reported

They left out critical facts.. They created a narrative...

 

[Papageorgio]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

As long as the coach doesn't require the prayer, then it is fine and if another religion would want to have a prayer, so be it. I believe prayer is private and personal, so I would not participate with the coach but those that want to have a right. It is not a violation of church and state.

 

[Sunsettommy]

So, you aren't sensitive about someone kneeling during the national anthem? Forced coercion.

You are deflecting to something else.

Try again.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You mean like they did with Roe? You people have no ability to be introspect.

yes, just like that. There is no difference between the two sides.

And I am not "you people" as you will not find a post from me doing it

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Now this is interesting.....can you think of any other situation where this could also apply to?

Do you have a point you are trying to make?

 

[iceberg]

I did not claim that he did, I asked a question.

So let's speculate on the unknown and throw that on there to cast shade on a discussion when what you are suggesting can't be proven either

OK.

 

[Meister]

Do you have a point you are trying to make?

Yeah, little children, and having teachers introduce them to alternative genders

 

[Harpy Eagle]

As long as the coach doesn't require the prayer, then it is fine and if another religion would want to have a prayer, so be it.

I did multiple sports in high school, players will often do things that are not "required" to stay within the good graces of the coach. So, while the coach may not require it, there is still pressure on the athletes to please the coach.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Or call any public library

SEPARATION

Sue me...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yeah, little children, and having teachers introduce them to alternative genders

That should not be happening either.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Yeah, little children, and having teachers introduce them to alternative genders

In violation of the parents deeply held religious beliefs... What could go wrong...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

So let's speculate on the unknown and throw that on there to cast shade on a discussion when what you are suggesting can't be proven either

OK.

It was merely a question, and it totally leaves out the peer pressure the players might feel to join in.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Shortly after the Supreme Court ruled against school prayer, Schools responded that these prayers were “voluntary”

The Court rejected that claim and ruled that such prayer was coercion and that it unreasonably influences students to participate

Today the Court reversed itself and says these public prayers do not coerce participation

That was in the CLASSROOM where the kids were in a position where they had little recourse to refrain.

Private prayers after a game on the 50-yard line isn't imposing anything onto people who are leaving the stands quickly and several players join on their own after a while.

It is all about coercion and intrusion of speech onto others which can't happen at the 50 years line.

 

[rightwinger]

He never coerced anyone to join in, they did it on their volition

The Court ruled on this in the past when schools claimed that such prayers were “voluntary”

Due to the positions of power that a teacher or coach had over students, it was ruled coerced prayer

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is all about coercion and intrusion of speech onto others which can't happen at the 50 years line.

Of course it can.

 

[Moonglow]

As the TRUMPCourt continues to erode Constitutional protections long understood.

The coach has a right to personally pray but not to coerce players to participate in public prayer

The coach was fired for ignoring instructions not to hold public prayers not for the act of praying

It still doesn't help his team to win.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Private prayers after a game on the 50-yard line

Nothing done on the 50 yard line after a game with people still there can be called private.

 

[rightwinger]

It is all about coercion and intrusion of speech onto others which can't happen at the 50 years line.

If you are a second string Wide Receiver and all other Wide a receivers are praying at the 50 yard line…….are you being coerced to join in?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Bad decision by the Court.

The Coach is a paid employee, by choosing to pray to his chosen god he is endorsing that god as part of his official duties as head coach. Endorsing one religion over all others is the first step to establishing it.

I cannot wait till the Satanist get ahold of this and start to hold their version of "prayers" after a football game.

No, it is their interpretation of what the Constitution says

That is literally, their job.

 

[Meister]

The Court ruled on this in the past when schools claimed that such prayers were “voluntary”

Due to the positions of power that a teacher or coach had over students, it was ruled coerced prayer

But, that wasn't the intent of the Constitution.
That was legislating from the bench.

You need to take in account where the FF's influence came from. It came from a country that
the Church dictated politics to the King. That is not the case with all the subsequence rulings regarding the subject
of the separation between church and state.