Supreme Court ruling on health care for millions, today or next monday

[rdean]

Seems we won't have long to wait. Democrats already have a plan and it covers millions. The GOP plan is to strip millions, many Republicans, of their health care.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Still waiting on my $2500 savings from (bait and) switching to Obamacare

 

[rdean]

Still waiting on my $2500 savings from (bait and) switching to Obamacare

Don't lie. It's unbecoming.

 

[BlackFlag]

Stripping millions of low income Americans of healthcare, a republican wet dream.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Still waiting on my $2500 savings from (bait and) switching to Obamacare

Don't lie. It's unbecoming.

 

[Claudette]

Stripping millions of low income Americans of healthcare, a republican wet dream.

Forcing the taxpayers of America to pay for healthcare for millions of low income Americans, a Democratic wet dream.

 

[Obiwan]

Stripping millions of low income Americans of healthcare, a republican wet dream.

Forcing the taxpayers of America to pay for healthcare for millions of low income Americans, a Democratic wet dream.

While working Americans saw insurance premiums and deductibles skyrocket, effectively denying THEM medical care....

Dilemma over deductibles Costs crippling middle class

Physician Praveen Arla is witnessing a reversal of health care fortunes: Poor, long-uninsured patients are getting Medicaid through Obamacare and finally coming to his office for care. But middle-class workers are increasingly staying away.

"It's flip-flopped," says Arla, who helps his father run a family practice in Hillview, Ky. Patients with job-based plans, he says, will say: " 'My deductible is so high. I'm trying to come to the doctor as little as possible. … What is the minimum I can get done?' They're really worried about cost."

It's a deep and common concern across the USA, where employer plans cover 60% of working-age Americans, or about 150 million people. Coverage long considered the gold standard of health insurance now often requires workers to pay so much out-of-pocket that many feel they must skip doctor visits, put off medical procedures, avoid filling prescriptions and ration pills — much as the uninsured have done.

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A recent Commonwealth Fund survey found that four in 10 working-age adults skipped some kind of care because of the cost, and other surveys have found much the same. The portion of workers with annual deductibles — what consumers must pay before insurance kicks in — rose from 55% eight years ago to 80% today, according to research by the Kaiser Family Foundation. And a Mercer study showed that 2014 saw the largest one-year increase in enrollment in "high-deductible plans" — from 18% to 23% of all covered employees.

Meanwhile the size of the average deductible more than doubled in eight years, from $584 to $1,217 for individual coverage. Add to this co-pays, co-insurance and the price of drugs or procedures not covered by plans — and it's all too much for many Americans.

Holly Wilson of Denver, a communications company fraud investigator who has congestive heart failure and high blood pressure, recently went without her blood pressure pills for three months because she couldn't afford them, given her $2,500 deductible. Her blood pressure shot so high, her doctor told her she risked a stroke.

And LaRita Jacobs of Seminole, Fla., who gets insurance through her husband's job and has an annual family income of $70,000, says $7,500 a year in out-of-pocket costs kept her from dealing with an arthritis-related neck problem until it got so bad she couldn't lift a fork. She's now putting off shoulder surgery.

"How did we get to this crazy life?" asks Jacobs, 54. "We're struggling to pay our bills like we were struggling when we first got started."

Why is this happening? Many patients and doctors blame corporate greed — a view insurers and business leaders reject. Some employers in turn blame the Affordable Care Act, saying it has forced them to pare down generous plans so they don't have to pay a "Cadillac tax" on high-cost coverage in 2018. But health care researchers point to a convergence of trends building for years: the steep rise in deductibles even as premiums stabilize, corporate belt-tightening since the economic downturn and stagnant middle-class wages.

LaRita Jacobs has severe arthritis and delayed a neck surgery until it got so bad she couldn’t lift a fork. Now, she is delaying shoulder surgery that her doctor recommends and opting for less expensive physical therapy and enduring the pain. Here, she readies the needle for her weekly injection of Methotrexate, a type of chemotherapy regularly used for people with autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis.
(Photo: Melissa Lyttle for USA TODAY)



"It's a case of companies trying to offer workers health insurance and still generate profit," said Eric Wright, a professor of sociology and public health at Georgia State University. "But whenever costs go up for the consumers across the board … it promotes a delay in care."

 

[danielpalos]

Stripping millions of low income Americans of healthcare, a republican wet dream.

Forcing the taxpayers of America to pay for healthcare for millions of low income Americans, a Democratic wet dream.

Some on the federalist left believe promoting the general welfare is a laudable goal.

 

[hortysir]

Still waiting on my $2500 savings from (bait and) switching to Obamacare

Don't lie. It's unbecoming.

The Obameter Cut the cost of a typical family s health insurance premium by up to 2 500 a year PolitiFact

 

[hortysir]

Still waiting on my $2500 savings from (bait and) switching to Obamacare

Don't lie. It's unbecoming.

Rtroll won't be back

 

[Maryland Patriot]

How is it that its considered taking away millions of peoples health care when all they are doing is making it affordable again.
the only people that will lose it are the ones that recently got it by mooching off of the paychecks of others.
I would look at it more like the republicans wanted to try and restore some level of dignity to the mooches.

 

[hortysir]

How is it that its considered taking away millions of peoples health care when all they are doing is making it affordable again.
the only people that will lose it are the ones that recently got it by mooching off of the paychecks of others.
I would look at it more like the republicans wanted to try and restore some level of dignity to the mooches.

If it's "free" in the sense that they're not paying for it how can it be taken away?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

How is it that its considered taking away millions of peoples health care when all they are doing is making it affordable again.
the only people that will lose it are the ones that recently got it by mooching off of the paychecks of others.
I would look at it more like the republicans wanted to try and restore some level of dignity to the mooches.

If it's "free" in the sense that they're not paying for it how can it be taken away?

because once a liberal mooch gets something, it becomes a right.
like, cell phones, take them back away and you violate their civil rights.
or remember when the healthcare freebie program was first being discussed? The republicans supposedly were letting millions die in the streets? although the left was never able to provide any proof of this.
so now that Pookie has free health care to go with his free house and free phone and free utilities and free food and transportation, to take any of the free away would be a violation of his rights.
think about this, why do you suppose that welfare got the name welfare? there is a good reason for it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Republicans are secretly hoping the law is upheld.

 

[NYcarbineer]

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think about this, why do you suppose that welfare got the name welfare? there is a good reason for it.

From the Preamble to the Constitution?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If its overruled Obama will order his legions of mindless zombies to take to the streets

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Republicans are secretly hoping the law is upheld.

democrats should be hoping its not.
elections coming up soon, and the increases are going to be very fresh in peoples minds.
why do you think that the kenyan is so intent on his illegal pets being allowed to vote?

 

[Maryland Patriot]

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think about this, why do you suppose that welfare got the name welfare? there is a good reason for it.

From the Preamble to the Constitution?

Indeed.
although the term welfare didnt mean to give people free stuff when that was written, by calling it welfare now they can point to the constitution and claim that welfare is a function of government.
becomes unconstitutional to take it away.
If you cant pass a new amendment, just call something by a name that will fit into the existing constitution.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

If its overruled Obama will order his legions of mindless zombies to take to the streets

Thats fine
we have the 2A to assist us should it be needed.

 

[hortysir]

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think about this, why do you suppose that welfare got the name welfare? there is a good reason for it.

From the Preamble to the Constitution?

Still not grasping the difference between promote and provide