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sure it does. You assume that individuals are the sum total influence in their personal income. You can't deny that opportunity is starkly limited in Ethiopia like you can when ignoring the reality of a starved middle class in America. Feel free to either admit you are wrong or dance around the facts some more.
I did previously admit that the playing field is not even for everyone. And indeed quite up hill for the avg. Ethiopian I would imagine. But we're not talking about Ethiopia. We're talking about America. The middle class is not starving in America. Hell be current statistical measurements i would be considered poor on my salary. Making it even more amazing what I am able to afford even though I am technically 'poor'. Yes there is some middle ground. But you seem to believe exactly as I said that where people wind up financially as all about fate and that individuals can't possibly be responsible for the position they find themselves in life. The fact is all it takes is some simple observation of the people around you. If you aren't motivated to do what it takes to become more than a phone rep. then you have no right to expect that you'll be more than that and make more than the pay said skill set deserves.
Indeed, those beggars on the streets of calcutta probably have no idea where their own bootstraps are too, RIGHT BERN?
Don't know, don't care. YOU are whining about the plight of people in this country. Stay on subject.
1. In Ethiopia OR America the economic fact simply isn't a matter of one's own ability to achieve and raise themselves up by their bootstraps. It's funny that you can admit this about one but not the other when the same range of external forces apply to both. For example, former factory workers in America are not, themselves, responsible for the absolute jettison of manufacturing to places like China and India. Nor are all those call centers that cater to American consumers, which directly limit employment opportunity HERE, the product of a lack of effort by the middle class. If you can't admit that Americans are economically stunted just because "they are not starving" then you are simply being disingenuous. Motivation or not, if the opportunity isn't available because the American standard of living can't compete with third world dirt class paupers then you really have nothing to add when predicting my mention of Calcutta.
2. "Don't know, don't care"
well, at least you are honest about ONE thing.