Ted Cruz Natural Born ?

[JakeStarkey]

The birfers continue to reingest their own vomit and nothing can be done about that.

Candidates for the presidency do not have to be born in the US, but must meet the following: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President;

 

[JakeStarkey]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

 

[Vigilante]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

You're not qualified to have an opinion, but we do have a Constitution that gives, even scum like you, a say....unfortunately you subversives are the ones who want to shut up the PATRIOTS!....Just thought I'd remind everyone about you leftists!

 

[Syriusly]

It only happened to Obama.!

Yep- Birthers have only 'care' about the issue of eligibility when it refers to Obama.

If the candidate is white- Stevie doesn't care.

 

[Syriusly]

barack h obama using stolen social security number...

Ah Youtube....Birthers love Youtube.....because Youtube is a perfect conduit for lies, innuendo and speculation.

 

[Syriusly]

barach hussein obama released a forged selective service card...

More Youtube Batshit crazy crap

Sent By:
“Richard Flahavan” On: Mar 03/30/09 12:09 PM
To: [email protected]

Dear Mr. Arduini:

Facts will never trump speculation by conspiracy theorists. But the reality is the following:

a. The 10-character Document Locator Number (DLN) was placed on Selective Service Registration Forms beginning prior to the establishment of our current Data Management Center on 31 August 1981.

b. Prior to 1981, the DLN configuration was different from what is used today.

c. At that time when Mr. Obama registered, the first three characters (089) indicated that the form was keyed in by one of the contract keying centers – in this case 089 equated to the Internal Revenue Service.

d. Later, an 11th digit was added to the DLN just prior to Y2K to differentiate another decade.

Thus, the first three characters of the DLN do NOT represent the year the form was keyed into the SSS registrant database, despite what some may hold dear.

Richard S. Flahavan
Associate Director, Public and Intergovernmental Affairs
Selective Service System National Headquarters

Obama s Forged Selective Service Registration - Obama Conspiracy Theories

 

[Syriusly]

Birthers believe anything they see on the internet just so long as it concludes "Obama not eligible"

 

[Syriusly]

NOTHING about obama is the truth. Its ALL a LIE, a FORGERY, a SHAM..

LOL....Birthers....how do they even manage to tie their own shoes?

 

[Syriusly]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

You're not qualified to have an opinion, but we do have a Constitution that gives, even scum like you, a say....unfortunately you subversives are the ones who want to shut up the PATRIOTS!....Just thought I'd remind everyone about you leftists!

LOL.....yet here you are posting your opinion exactly like Jake was posting his opinion.

See the Constitution allows even scum like you a say, which all Americans should support, even when you want to shut up the Patriots.....just thought I would remind everyone about you batshit crazy Conservative wingnuts.

 

[Syriusly]

More Youtube video's......LOL......

 

[Syriusly]

"of course the real story here is the obots and the press, and the fun we will have watching them back peddle"

Wrong again, as usual.

Not only do democrats believe Cruz is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president, but they'd love nothing more than for Cruz to indeed be the GOP nominee.

Crus is NOT a Natural Born Citizen... his father is a Cuban foreign National, thus Cruz is a citizen by law and as a result he is not qualified to be the President.

Sadly, Cruz and his Father are sublime Americans and EITHER of them would make a fine American President.

Wow....you manage to get every single thing in that post wrong.

 

[Vigilante]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

You're not qualified to have an opinion, but we do have a Constitution that gives, even scum like you, a say....unfortunately you subversives are the ones who want to shut up the PATRIOTS!....Just thought I'd remind everyone about you leftists!

LOL.....yet here you are posting your opinion exactly like Jake was posting his opinion.

See the Constitution allows even scum like you a say, which all Americans should support, even when you want to shut up the Patriots.....just thought I would remind everyone about you batshit crazy Conservative wingnuts.

You are a dimwit, aren't you, as that is what I said! ...But Patriots will let you socialist, commie loving pond scum continue with your worthless diatribes, and point out just how dangerous you are to the FORMER American way of life!

 

[Syriusly]

Ted would have little problem.....

Ted Cruz can be president probably - CNN.com

Good article- worth quoting

The Constitution says that only "natural born citizens" are eligible to be president. Is Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas eligible, given that he was born in Canada of a U.S. citizen mother and a Cuban immigrant father?

If Cruz runs, 2016 will be the third consecutive election in which there were questions about the right of a major party candidate to serve. Unfortunately, the Framers left few clues about exactly what a "natural born citizen" is; Congress has not used the phrase in citizenship statutes since 1790.

Indeed, the phrase is so obscure that it has been called the Constitution's worst provision by the dean of the Yale Law School. But it is likely that Cruz is a natural born citizen, because he was a citizen by birth. In any event, even if there were some question, the courts are unlikely to interfere with the decisions of the electorate about who we want as our president.

We have clear rules for who is a citizen by birth, and who can become a citizen after birth by naturalization, but neither the Constitution nor laws passed by Congress define "natural born citizen."

The phrase comes from the English common law, which defined the term as including anyone who, by natural law, owed duties to, and was protected by, the monarch. The sovereign expected obedience from anyone born in the country, other than the child of a foreign diplomat or an enemy soldier. So children born in England, even to parents who were not English themselves, were natural born subjects. As such they were obligated to pay taxes, say, or perform military service, and they had the rights of English people.

The word "natural" was critical. English courts found that some people were naturally subjects if born in the dominion of the sovereign even if Parliament had passed no law making them such. Simply being born naturally created rights and duties.

Politics: Who is eligible to run for president?


The United States had natural citizenship in this same sense; white people born in the United States were always regarded as citizens, even before the Fourteenth Amendment, passed in 1868, put that principle in the Constitution and extended it to African-Americans.

Clearly, those born in the United States are eligible to be president; if they are not, no one is. There is also wide agreement that people who became citizens after birth, such as former governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, cannot run. Naturalized citizens are ineligible, no matter how able and popular, no matter how loyal and integrated into American society.

The question about eligibility has always been with regard to children of U.S. citizens born overseas, like Ted Cruz, and Republican presidential candidates John McCain and George Romney before him. The Supreme Court has held that foreign-born children are U.S. citizens only to the extent that a law passed by Congress makes them so. As the child of a U.S. citizen mother, Ted Cruz was born a citizen by virtue of the Immigration and Nationality Act. But did that make him a natural born citizen?

The United States has citizens, not subjects; we are a nation of free people, not ruled by a hereditary sovereign. Therefore, the English concept does not translate directly to the American context. Instead, the question is who is a natural member of the political community.

Most immigration and citizenship scholars, including me, believe that the answer is that any person who is a U.S. citizen at birth is naturally a part of the political community and hence eligible to be president. (I argued that John McCain was not eligible, because the statute granting citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone was passed only after he was born; since he was not a citizen at birth, he could not be a natural born citizen.)

 

[Siete]

NOTHING about obama is the truth. Its ALL a LIE, a FORGERY, a SHAM..

LOL....Birthers....how do they even manage to tie their own shoes?

this thread, # 127

 

[Syriusly]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

You're not qualified to have an opinion, but we do have a Constitution that gives, even scum like you, a say....unfortunately you subversives are the ones who want to shut up the PATRIOTS!....Just thought I'd remind everyone about you leftists!

LOL.....yet here you are posting your opinion exactly like Jake was posting his opinion.

See the Constitution allows even scum like you a say, which all Americans should support, even when you want to shut up the Patriots.....just thought I would remind everyone about you batshit crazy Conservative wingnuts.

You are a dimwit, aren't you, as that is what I said! ...But Patriots will let you socialist, commie loving pond scum continue with your worthless diatribes, and point out just how dangerous you are to the FORMER American way of life!

LOL- being called a dimwit by a clueless irrational Rightist wingnut like you is a compliment!

Thanks

 

[Dana7360]

And there is no executive order by Barack Obama sealing his immigration and student visas- just more Birther lies, speculation and innuendo.

REALLY?

THEN SHOW THEM TO ME.

YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET THEM WITH A FOIA REQUEST.

SHOW THEM TO ME.

A person can't prove a negative.

However you can prove your claim quite easily.

Here's a list of all of Obama's executive orders. Please tell everyone on this board which one seals his immigration and student visas.

Executive Orders | The White House

Hint, the documents you are talking about don't exist. There are no immigration records nor is there any visa for entrance to America records. Citizens of America don't need or have those records.

If you believe they exist please show all of us where. We will need honest and credible proof. Far right wing, and birther sites aren't credible so don't even try to pass that off as truth.

 

[Vigilante]

Ted would have little problem.....

Ted Cruz can be president probably - CNN.com

Good article- worth quoting

The Constitution says that only "natural born citizens" are eligible to be president. Is Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas eligible, given that he was born in Canada of a U.S. citizen mother and a Cuban immigrant father?

If Cruz runs, 2016 will be the third consecutive election in which there were questions about the right of a major party candidate to serve. Unfortunately, the Framers left few clues about exactly what a "natural born citizen" is; Congress has not used the phrase in citizenship statutes since 1790.

Indeed, the phrase is so obscure that it has been called the Constitution's worst provision by the dean of the Yale Law School. But it is likely that Cruz is a natural born citizen, because he was a citizen by birth. In any event, even if there were some question, the courts are unlikely to interfere with the decisions of the electorate about who we want as our president.

We have clear rules for who is a citizen by birth, and who can become a citizen after birth by naturalization, but neither the Constitution nor laws passed by Congress define "natural born citizen."

The phrase comes from the English common law, which defined the term as including anyone who, by natural law, owed duties to, and was protected by, the monarch. The sovereign expected obedience from anyone born in the country, other than the child of a foreign diplomat or an enemy soldier. So children born in England, even to parents who were not English themselves, were natural born subjects. As such they were obligated to pay taxes, say, or perform military service, and they had the rights of English people.

The word "natural" was critical. English courts found that some people were naturally subjects if born in the dominion of the sovereign even if Parliament had passed no law making them such. Simply being born naturally created rights and duties.

Politics: Who is eligible to run for president?


The United States had natural citizenship in this same sense; white people born in the United States were always regarded as citizens, even before the Fourteenth Amendment, passed in 1868, put that principle in the Constitution and extended it to African-Americans.

Clearly, those born in the United States are eligible to be president; if they are not, no one is. There is also wide agreement that people who became citizens after birth, such as former governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Granholm, cannot run. Naturalized citizens are ineligible, no matter how able and popular, no matter how loyal and integrated into American society.

The question about eligibility has always been with regard to children of U.S. citizens born overseas, like Ted Cruz, and Republican presidential candidates John McCain and George Romney before him. The Supreme Court has held that foreign-born children are U.S. citizens only to the extent that a law passed by Congress makes them so. As the child of a U.S. citizen mother, Ted Cruz was born a citizen by virtue of the Immigration and Nationality Act. But did that make him a natural born citizen?

The United States has citizens, not subjects; we are a nation of free people, not ruled by a hereditary sovereign. Therefore, the English concept does not translate directly to the American context. Instead, the question is who is a natural member of the political community.

Most immigration and citizenship scholars, including me, believe that the answer is that any person who is a U.S. citizen at birth is naturally a part of the political community and hence eligible to be president. (I argued that John McCain was not eligible, because the statute granting citizenship to people born in the Canal Zone was passed only after he was born; since he was not a citizen at birth, he could not be a natural born citizen.)

Did you read the part about presidential eligibility from his mothers citizenship?

 

[Vigilante]

Cruz is qualified for the presidency by Constitutional criteria.

He is not qualified emotionally or spiritually.

You're not qualified to have an opinion, but we do have a Constitution that gives, even scum like you, a say....unfortunately you subversives are the ones who want to shut up the PATRIOTS!....Just thought I'd remind everyone about you leftists!

LOL.....yet here you are posting your opinion exactly like Jake was posting his opinion.

See the Constitution allows even scum like you a say, which all Americans should support, even when you want to shut up the Patriots.....just thought I would remind everyone about you batshit crazy Conservative wingnuts.

You are a dimwit, aren't you, as that is what I said! ...But Patriots will let you socialist, commie loving pond scum continue with your worthless diatribes, and point out just how dangerous you are to the FORMER American way of life!

LOL- being called a dimwit by a clueless irrational Rightist wingnut like you is a compliment!

Thanks

I shall continue to compliment such a left wing nut, as yourself! Now, don't wet your panties with that compliment!

 

[Porker]

Little uptight there defending the Kenyan president are you? That sumbitch is a born and bred Kenyan, a muslim and a member of the fake Christian church led by warlord Jeremiah Wright...FOR TWENTY EFFING YEARS. A close personal friend of Bill Ayers, the mad bomber and arsonist of the 1970s, hired as the liberal in charge of teaching communism at the University of Illinois for years after he got out of prison (just some guy who lived in the neightborhood). And his auntie (pronounced ountie) was present at his birth in K-E-N-Y-A. Everything about the asshole is a lie including "his and Michelles" children who apparently do not have birth certificates either...

 

[Syriusly]

obama is not qualified... he dam' well KNEW he was not qualified from the get-go and ran and won the office ENTIRELY upon the fundamental elements of Leftism: Deceit, FRAUD and Ignorance.

Why would Obama 'know' what no one else 'knew'?

The voters thought he was eligible.
The electoral College thought he was eligible when they elected him.
Congress thought he was eligible when they confirmed his election without a single dissent.
Chief Justice Roberts thought he was eligible when he swore him in.
All of that- twice.

Virtually no one but a few wingnuts believe this made up definition of 'natural Born citizens' that even only a few Birthers believe.