Thanks Joe! Homicide Rates Plummet from Trump Era Highs

[hadit]

Talk to some of our resident gun nuts, they'll claim it's only 12 by only counting those where five or more people died.

Doesn't this news negate the panting hysteria about more guns in circulation meaning more shootouts and more dead?

 

[hadit]

You guys have no answer for the fact crime is lower under Biden than Trump. I hate shattering your worldview but then again, no I don’t.

More guns =/= more crime. That's cool.

 

[citygator]

And when the correct statistics come out, when they are shown to be false, when we get some honest reporting about the true statistics and somebody posts it up in here......

It will be moved to -- somewhere. Maybe Crime and Justice. Maybe Current events.

Just like this topic should be. But it won't. It caresses the frayed nerves of dimocrap scum so, it's okay.

The stats are bullshit. Nothing bad is 'down' in this Country. Nothing.

Only pussies cry about the statistics. It shows you can’t debate. If you don’t trust the stats showing crime is dropping how the fuck did you trust them when they said they were going up?

 

[hadit]

Only pussies cry about the statistics. It shows you can’t debate. If you don’t trust the stats showing crime is dropping how the fuck did you trust them when they said they were going up?

This is great news. It shows that more guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens does not equal more crime. There's no reason then to keep griping about them.

 

[citygator]

Derp derp derp................................

By the way, read the bottom line where I highlighted the text.

Executive Order 13767​

Executive Order 13767, titled Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements, was issued by United States President Donald Trump on January 25, 2017.[1][2] The order directs a wall, colloquially called the "Trump wall",[3] to be built along the Mexico–United States border. On December 22, 2018, the federal government went into a shutdown due to Trump's demand for $5.6 billion in federal funds to begin work on the wall. By January 12, 2019, the shutdown became the longest budget shutdown in U.S. history.[4][5]

The wall was a central presidential campaign promise.[6] Trump repeatedly pledged that Mexico would "pay for that wall" and on many occasions falsely asserted that it was doing so; in fact, Mexico never contributed anything to wall construction, and the Trump administration steered millions of dollars in U.S. taxpayer money to wall construction, diverting funds from the military construction budget and other sources.[7][8] The Trump administration sought $18 billion in funding.[9]

In late 2017 the Department of Homeland Security paid about $3 million for the construction of eight prototypes near San Diego, California, with local taxpayers spending about $2.3 million in security.[10] In November 2017 SWF Construction won an $18 million contract to replace an existing 2-mile wall[9] in Calexico, California. Construction began in February 2018.

The executive order was revoked by Trump's successor, President Joe Biden.[11]

Provisions[edit]​

The Mexico–United States border
The order directs "executive departments and agencies ... to deploy all lawful means to secure the Nation's southern border, to prevent further illegal immigration into the United States, and to repatriate illegal aliens swiftly, consistently, and humanely", and states that "It is the policy of the executive branch to secure the southern border of the United States through the immediate construction of a physical wall on the southern border."[12]

Funding[edit]​

The executive order, signed on January 25, 2017,[13] calls for the construction of "a physical wall along the southern border" and defines wall as "a contiguous, physical wall or other similarly secure, contiguous, and impassable physical barrier."[12]

The order did not estimate a cost for the wall project.[14] An internal report by the Department of Homeland Security acquired by Reuters in February 2017 estimated that Trump's proposed border wall would take an estimated 3.5 years to build and cost $21.6 billion. The cost was higher than estimates given by Trump during the campaign, in part because it accounted for the time and cost of acquiring the required private land on the border.[15]

Federal budget shutdown in 2018–2019[edit]​

Main article: United States federal government shutdown of 2018–2019
On December 22, 2018, the federal government went into a shutdown due to Trump's demand for $5.6 billion in federal funds for a wall on the US–Mexico border. On January 12, 2019, the shutdown became the longest budget shutdown in U.S. history.[16][5]

The government shutdown ended after Congress passed, and Trump signed, a bill without the billions in funding for the border wall Trump demanded. The next month, however, Trump thereafter issued a proclamation declaring a "national emergency" on the border, and began to divert money from other projects to border-wall construction.[17] This precipitated a constitutional clash over separation of powers.[17]

Revocation[edit]​

President Joe Biden issued Executive Order 14010 in early February 2021, shortly after he took office; the order revoked Trump's Executive Order 13767.[11]

Executive Order 13767 - Wikipedia

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From Trump’s DHS:

Humanitarian and Security Crisis at Southern Border Reaches 'Breaking Point' | Homeland Security

The U.S. Border Patrol is currently encountering illegal immigration at the highest rates since 2007, according to new data. In fact, in February more than double the level of migrants crossed the border without authorization compared to the same period last year, approaching the largest numbers...

www.dhs.gov

 

[DigitalDrifter]

From Trump’s DHS:

Humanitarian and Security Crisis at Southern Border Reaches 'Breaking Point' | Homeland Security

The U.S. Border Patrol is currently encountering illegal immigration at the highest rates since 2007, according to new data. In fact, in February more than double the level of migrants crossed the border without authorization compared to the same period last year, approaching the largest numbers...

www.dhs.gov

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And speaking of 2019.....................................

Biden in 2019: The Fact​

A video clipping of Biden speaking at a debate prior to general elections in 2019 clearly shows him say, 'Surge the borders.' "I would in fact make sure that there is immediately a surge to the border. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. "We're a nation that says, 'You want to flee, and you're fleeing oppression, you should come,'" Biden had told during a debate moderated by Univision's Jorge Ramos in 2019.

 

[Lesh]

Notice Republicans use every distraction they can think of to try and make the FACTS go away

Murder rates are DOWN

 

[Dragonlady]

The hundred thousand murdered in Gaza by Genocide Joe, kind of destroys your point.

Joe Biden didn't murder anyone in Gaza. That would be Netanyahu and his government.

We're talking about the US crime and murder rates. The ones that Trump insists are completely out of control.

 

[Lesh]

 

[scruffy]

That is pretty dumb even for a low information rightie. We spend money all the time. Spending money isnt war. War involves troops.

Yesterday it did. Today it's about drones and hellfire.

 

[gipper]

Joe Biden didn't murder anyone in Gaza. That would be Netanyahu and his government.

We're talking about the US crime and murder rates. The ones that Trump insists are completely out of control.

Wrong. Without US support the Israelis couldn’t do what they’re doing. Do you not know about the votes at the UN? Massive munitions sent by US at Genocide Joe ‘s direction. Tons of 2000lb bombs to slaughter entire neighborhoods.

Stop and think for once.

 

[struth]

Zero.

I could of sworn he just sign a multi billion dollar package to fund a war in Europe

Trump signed peace accords, xiden signs billions for bombs

 

[citygator]

I could of sworn he just sign a multi billion dollar package to fund a war in Europe

Trump signed peace accords, xiden signs billions for bombs

Trump abandoned the Kurds, alienated our allies, emboldened our enemies, and you are surprised Biden had to stand up to the Russians? Sometimes I wonder if any of you even try.

 

[struth]

Trump abandoned the Kurds, alienated our allies, emboldened our enemies, and you are surprised Biden had to stand up to the Russians? Sometimes I wonder if any of you even try.

Xiden surrendered to the terrorist and got held in contempt of the UK.

Your lies are going nowhere, you are only lying to yourself

 

[Crepitus]

Suddenly? Really? You haven’t paid attention. No one on the board wants the killing to stop more than me, and I’ve made that clear since Hamas attacked.

The death toll is likely higher. I’m hardly the first person to use that figure, but I might be to someone who gets their news from NPR, BBC, and Newsweek.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I haven't seen any of the right wingers giving two shits about palestinians.

 

[gipper]

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I haven't seen any of the right wingers giving two shits about palestinians.

Again I’ve opposed the genocide from day one. And it’s not just right wingers who support genocide, many libs, progs, and Ds do. Your decrepit D potus is a genocidal maniac.

I’ve been banned four times because of my outspoken criticism of Israel. Never banned before in all my years here.

 

[Lesh]

Again I’ve opposed the genocide from day one. And it’s not just right wingers who support genocide, many libs, progs, and Ds do. Your decrepit D potus is a genocidal maniac.

I’ve been banned four times because of my outspoken criticism of Israel. Never banned before in all my years here.

You were banned because you’re an asshole.

I’ve been outspoken about my opposition to the actions of Israel and never been banned

 

[Crepitus]

Your decrepit D potus is a genocidal maniac.

Joe Biden does not want genocide.

 

[gipper]

You were banned because you’re an asshole.

I’ve been outspoken about my opposition to the actions of Israel and never been banned

This from a dick who uses an Ukraine avatar. You support war in Ukraine where 500,000 have died and think you’re some kind of peacenik for opposing Israeli genocide.

Sorry son that shit don’t fly. Warmonger!

Never banned in 13 years. Then four times after Israel started killing. So, I guess I wasn’t an asshole until recently. lol.

 

[gipper]

Joe Biden does not want genocide.

Yet he’s supported it for months now.