The Bible Tells Us When Jesus Returns - Between Tisha B'Av and Day of Atonement 2029

[ninja007]

the Bible also states that no one but God knows when the end will come...

but we can know when it is near, even at the door.

 

[Parture]

O
Oh that I had that much time....
I have been a Christian since I was nine. I think I'll stay one.

Parture doesn;t believe in eternal security and OSAS I take it! I guess Jesus was a liar when He said Believe on me and be saved, and dozens of other passages!

I believe in OSAS why sin bearing false witness?

and why is that?

Why do you sin bearing false witness? Perhaps it gets you off.

YOU JUST AGREED with me.... which is it?

Why do you disagree?

the Bible also states that no one but God knows when the end will come...

but we can know when it is near, even at the door.

Believe it.

 

[Parture]

I believe in OSAS why sin bearing false witness?

and why is that?

Why do you sin bearing false witness? Perhaps it gets you off.

what false witness are you speaking about?


Parture, the believer lives under grace. This guarantees God's ability to bring to a conclusion what we cannot. We were not saved by our works, so we don't undo our salvation by works. One cannot keep themselves saved, since we didn’t save ourselves in the first place, we remain saved by grace, by His power.

Why do you reject God once saved always saved?

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

 

[Parture]

the Bible also states that no one but God knows when the end will come...

Nobody knows when the world ends (Matt. 24.35,36), but we know when Jesus returns to reign for the millennial kingdom on earth.

 

[Parture]

Here's some verses to help you...

"In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory" (Eph. 1.13,14).

"And it is this Good News that saves you if you firmly believe it [the born-again "shall never perish" John 10.28]--unless, of course, you believed something that was never true in the first place [a person could lose salvation]" (1 Cor. 15.2). There is not a single person who received initial salvation in the Bible that ended up losing it. The question put to all non-OSASers is this: "And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?" (John 11.26). It does not say "whosoever...keepest on believing me shall never die...." which speaks of self strength. How foolish!

Do you believe that when you are saved (born again, new birth) right there and then you have received eternal life which is eternal and can never be taken away (preservation of the saints), because once what God gives to be His Own uncreated eternal life by the Holy Spirit with His infinite foreknowledge (omniscience), it shall last forever for the Holy Spirit to indwell? Was your choice to receive Christ a condition fulfilled required by God without the option to get out later? "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand" (John 10.27-29).

When our assurance of salvation is based at all on our works, we can never have absolute assurance...! But does Scripture discourage giving objective assurance of salvation? Hardly! On the contrary, the Lord Jesus (John 5.24), Paul (Romans 8.38-39), and John (1 John 5.11-13) have no qualms about offering absolute, objective assurance of salvation. Furthermore, works are never included as a requirement of assurance. Whoever believes on Him shall be judged no more, because he "hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life" (John 5.24). How can this happen more than once? It is a one-time, once-for-all transaction. In eternity He has formed a will which wills to save us that none of us should be lost: "And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day" (John 6.39). How then can we be saved and later be unsaved? Our salvation is forever secured in the unchangeable will of God.

Christ guarantees, "him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out" (John 6.37). I came to Him by faith in His Word so I can never be lost. My assurance is in His promise and keeping power, not in my efforts or performance. He said, "I give unto them [my sheep] eternal life; and they shall never perish" (John 10.28). "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away. Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time" (1 Pet. 1.3-5).

"For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day" (2 Tim. 1.12). "Being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete [perfect] it until the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1.6). "For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord" (Rom. 8.38-39). "For the gifts and the call of God are irrevocable" (Rom. 11.29).

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God...ye have received the Spirit of adoption.... The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ" (Rom. 8.14-17). "If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself" (2 Tim. 2.13). "But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God" (John 1.12). "These things I write to you, who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know you have eternal life" (1 John 5.13). How could a man know he had eternal life, passed out of death into life, if he had not been justified by faith permanently? He couldn't. In Roman Catholicism, allegedly you believe in Christ and work like a beaver, and if you don't, at best its purgatory and at worse eternal damnation in Hell. You can tell this is forced and not of God. Does God want you to work so hard and so rushed in the backdrop of eternity? What's the rush? Wait on the Lord and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit. An unsaved person's views seem to take on the particular predisposition of his own flesh. The holder of the non-OSAS view naturally tends to be strong-willed, but the Bible says not by the will of man nor the will of the flesh is one saved. "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1.13).

"But it is God who establishes us with you in Christ, and has commissioned us; who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee" (2 Cor. 1.21-22). "Do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption" (Eph. 4.30). The use of the word "grieve" here and not "anger" reveals the Holy Spirit's love. "Grieve" it says and not "cause to depart," for "he dwells with you and will be with you" (John 14.17). While every born-again believer does have the Holy Spirit permanently residing in him, nevertheless the plight of the indwelling Spirit may not be the same in all saints-He may be either grieved or gladdened. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever" (John 14.16). Forever is forever!

In the OT the Holy Spirit came upon men, but never indwelt them. For example, Saul had the Holy Spirit upon him for a time, but then left. If he had the Holy Spirit within him then He would never have left (1 Sam. 28.15). The same happened to Samson (Judges 16.20). So the warning that the Holy Spirit can leave a person under the OT period is given in Ps. 51.11. The Holy Spirit is a gift (Acts 2.38, 10.45) and a seal on their hearts, a guarantee of eternal life (2 Cor. 1.22), "sealed with that holy Spirit of promise" (Eph. 1.13). There is no place in the NT someone who has received the indwelling Holy Spirit ever lost Him.

 

[ninja007]

and why is that?

Why do you sin bearing false witness? Perhaps it gets you off.

what false witness are you speaking about?


Parture, the believer lives under grace. This guarantees God's ability to bring to a conclusion what we cannot. We were not saved by our works, so we don't undo our salvation by works. One cannot keep themselves saved, since we didn’t save ourselves in the first place, we remain saved by grace, by His power.

Why do you reject God once saved always saved?

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

 

[Parture]

Why do you sin bearing false witness? Perhaps it gets you off.

what false witness are you speaking about?


Parture, the believer lives under grace. This guarantees God's ability to bring to a conclusion what we cannot. We were not saved by our works, so we don't undo our salvation by works. One cannot keep themselves saved, since we didn’t save ourselves in the first place, we remain saved by grace, by His power.

Why do you reject God once saved always saved?

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

 

[ninja007]

what false witness are you speaking about?


Parture, the believer lives under grace. This guarantees God's ability to bring to a conclusion what we cannot. We were not saved by our works, so we don't undo our salvation by works. One cannot keep themselves saved, since we didn’t save ourselves in the first place, we remain saved by grace, by His power.

Why do you reject God once saved always saved?

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

re-read your post 107. Your proposal in the reply to her is not possible if you believe in OSAS. You cannot lose your salvation, then get it back as you referred to. I.R. also believes in OSAS like me.

 

[Parture]

Why do you reject God once saved always saved?

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

re-read your post 107. Your proposal in the reply to her is not possible if you believe in OSAS. You cannot lose your salvation, then get it back as you referred to. I.R. also believes in OSAS like me.

Your reading skills are very poor, and to be honest, you're not too bright. Citing someone else's position is not an endorsement of it which the rest of the post confirms.

You're an idiot. Some people really are idiots, and you happen to be one of them of your volition.

 

[ninja007]

are you serious? I DO NOT REJECT IT. YOU DO, as noted in your reply to Irish Ram.

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

re-read your post 107. Your proposal in the reply to her is not possible if you believe in OSAS. You cannot lose your salvation, then get it back as you referred to. I.R. also believes in OSAS like me.

Your reading skills are very poor. Citing someone else's position is not an endorsement of it.

That was a false assumption on your part as she is a OSAS believer.

 

[Parture]

Why do you reject OSAS? Don't you believe?

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

re-read your post 107. Your proposal in the reply to her is not possible if you believe in OSAS. You cannot lose your salvation, then get it back as you referred to. I.R. also believes in OSAS like me.

Your reading skills are very poor. Citing someone else's position is not an endorsement of it.

That was a false assumption on your part as she is a OSAS believer.

I never said that. I showed her why her being non-OSAS is wrong in post after post. You're an idiot. Do all idiots know they are idiots? I thought I would ask you personally since you excel at it. It's entertaining though seeing how stupid you can get. I bet you can outdo yourself if you really apply yourself. Do you think there are clubs or organizations for morons? You would fit in so well. You could teach people how to be moronic. I'm telling you, you have a talent at it. The Holy Spirit is telling me that you are quite good at being an idiot. I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it. You are one of the most talented idiots I have ever come across by your persistent ability to be a moron. I really enjoyed our talk. I hope you don't stop being a retard, because it is really quite funny! Did you mean to be that funny? That's funny actually, a moron who doesn't realize he is being funny. What a breath of fresh air you are. You're quite the special one with special needs. I hope you are getting government support, because I don't think someone of your caliber would be employable. I was thinking that if you know you are an idiot that mustn't make you feel very good knowing you are incompetent to stand trial.

 

[ninja007]

do you have a reading comprehension issue? I do believe in OSAS, but YOU do not. Proved by your reply to Irish Ram in Post #107. How do you believe in OSAS comparing it to your post in 107?

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem since I believe in OSAS and you do not.

re-read your post 107. Your proposal in the reply to her is not possible if you believe in OSAS. You cannot lose your salvation, then get it back as you referred to. I.R. also believes in OSAS like me.

Your reading skills are very poor. Citing someone else's position is not an endorsement of it.

That was a false assumption on your part as she is a OSAS believer.

I never said that. I showed her why her being non-OSAS is wrong in post after post. You're an idiot. Do all idiots know they are idiots? I thought I would ask you personally since you excel at it. It's entertaining though seeing how stupid you can get. I bet you can outdo yourself if you really apply yourself. Do you think there are clubs or organizations for morons? You would fit in so well. You could teach people how to be moronic. I'm telling you, you have a talent at it. The Holy Spirit is telling me that you are quite good at being an idiot. I wouldn't say it if I didn't believe it. You are one of the most talented idiots I have ever come across by your persistent ability to be a moron. I really enjoyed our talk. I hope you don't stop being a retard, because it is really quite funny! Did you mean to be that funny? That's funny actually, a moron who doesn't realize he is being funny. What a breath of fresh air you are. You're quite the special one with special needs. I hope you are getting government support, because I don't think someone of your caliber would be employable. I was thinking that if you know you are an idiot that mustn't make you feel very good knowing you are incompetent to stand trial.

lol, judging by your name calling post you are def. NOT saved and most likely 12 years old.

 

[ninja007]

let me leave you with this fruitloop before putting you on permanent ignore;


Matthew 12:35
A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.

 

[Parture]

let me leave you with this fruitloop before putting you on permanent ignore;


Matthew 12:35
A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him.

You have a lot sinning bearing false witness stored up in you. My prayer is one day you give your life to Christ to be saved otherwise you are going to Hell with that non-OSASer Ram. You're quite the wing nut. Ram's a nut job. I hope by putting me on ignore you exhibit some self control from your excessive stupidity.

 

[Parture]

Good talk.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why is it that the so-called "christians" use name calling as proof of their piety? And the way they argue over who is the better christian and who knows more about the bible always seems kinds sad to me.

All it really proves is that they all have Google.

 

[hortysir]

Various rabble rousers and wannabe cult leaders have made similar "Endtimes" predictions.

To the back of the line you go for your allotment of the gullible and the superstitious.

The difference is I proved it here. They did not. Evidence is what matters.

You have proved nothing.

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR
period

And you don't get to call my Bible a lie

 

[hortysir]

Why is it that the so-called "christians" use name calling as proof of their piety? And the way they argue over who is the better christian and who knows more about the bible always seems kinds sad to me.

All it really proves is that they all have Google.

Falsehood

 

[Parture]

Why is it that the so-called "christians" use name calling as proof of their piety? And the way they argue over who is the better christian and who knows more about the bible always seems kinds sad to me.

All it really proves is that they all have Google.

You're under the mistaken impression non-OSASers are Christians. They are not. They are Remonstrants of the great harlot of religious Rome the Roman Catholic Church that in Rev. 17 will be destroyed by fire in verse 16 for she makes drunk the nations with the wine of the wrath of her fornications (14.8).

 

[Parture]

Various rabble rousers and wannabe cult leaders have made similar "Endtimes" predictions.

To the back of the line you go for your allotment of the gullible and the superstitious.

The difference is I proved it here. They did not. Evidence is what matters.

You have proved nothing.

NO MAN KNOWS THE DAY OR HOUR
period

And you don't get to call my Bible a lie

No man knows the day or hour of the end of the world (Matt. 24.35,36), but we do know when Jesus returns as He told use we would know after the Tetrad (Rev. 6.12) by the sign of the Son of Man (Matt. 24.30) and if we are watchful (Rev. 3.3).

Why do you reject what the Bible says?