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The Big Lie
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Democrats are just Nazis who miss the 1930s
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
And I answered. You're not listening. As far as you're concerned - I'm not a libertarian. Clear?
BlindBoo
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ou said that the "means by which the rabid right" got it's information was not effected.
I agreed with the point, though I dropped your partisan spin.
I went on to make a point that my original concern was more about the more moderate voters.
That was not a "backhanded insult". That was my conceding your point. There was no insult at all.
"might have learned to ignore the propaganda spouted by people like you"
Then you besmirch and sow mistrust of my fellow Americans and try to instill faithlessness in our democratic elections with:
"they are not an informed electorate, but a MISINFORMED electorate."
"And the election is thus not legitimate."
I completely disagree.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
dictionary.cambridge.org
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
www.merriam-webster.com
BlindBoo
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Libertarians are just disenfranchised Republicans with a slight twist. Meh.You kaz, i.e., lie, again. You're no libertarian. No real libertarian would have voted for Trump.LOLI don't like what you do Using libertarian to justify Democrat party fascism and totalitarian government and alibiing their racism is pretty pathetic
I'm not really using the term "libertarian" any more. Not on this board. I still think the word has meaning - a radically different meaning than your conception - but words mean what people mean when they use them. And what you mean when you say "libertarian" has, apparently, utterly nothing to do with what I mean when I use the term.
So, to avoid confusion, let me state clearly that whatever it is you mean by "libertarian" - I'm not it. Clear? I want exactly nothing to do with your Trumpster statist idiocy.
What a bunch of useless hot air. And again you disagree with EVERY libertarian on the board and are saying they aren't libertarians and leftists love you. You slap each other on the butt, high five each other and grove all the time. Even Faun, who is one of the most hate filled leftists on the board. He walks up and is like you're great. Mac. The list goes on. They love the Democrat party, they love you.
So, what do I believe that you think isn't small government libertarian? Be specific.
Dayum, it really bothers you that I find some common ground with some libertarians.
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
You're not the only totalitarian leftist who likes him. And he doesn't get along either with a single libertarian on the board.
Let him answer the question, I really would like to know how it makes sense that someone formerly called a libertarian resonates only with totalitarians
Another leftist who says I'm not a libertarian ... who can't come up with any examples ...
Yawn
Democrats are just Nazis who miss the 1930s
Another demon in Hell was hatched with elRushbo as part of its name.
progressive hunter
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thats far right in the european scale,, in america far right is libertarian to anarchy/no government,,Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
And I answered. You're not listening. As far as you're concerned - I'm not a libertarian. Clear?
You said you don't call yourself a libertarian. I asked what your views are. Just asking for a summary. Saying you don't call yourself a libertarian anymore doesn't answer that, no
Libertarians are just disenfranchised Republicans with a slight twist. Meh.You kaz, i.e., lie, again. You're no libertarian. No real libertarian would have voted for Trump.LOLI don't like what you do Using libertarian to justify Democrat party fascism and totalitarian government and alibiing their racism is pretty pathetic
I'm not really using the term "libertarian" any more. Not on this board. I still think the word has meaning - a radically different meaning than your conception - but words mean what people mean when they use them. And what you mean when you say "libertarian" has, apparently, utterly nothing to do with what I mean when I use the term.
So, to avoid confusion, let me state clearly that whatever it is you mean by "libertarian" - I'm not it. Clear? I want exactly nothing to do with your Trumpster statist idiocy.
What a bunch of useless hot air. And again you disagree with EVERY libertarian on the board and are saying they aren't libertarians and leftists love you. You slap each other on the butt, high five each other and grove all the time. Even Faun, who is one of the most hate filled leftists on the board. He walks up and is like you're great. Mac. The list goes on. They love the Democrat party, they love you.
So, what do I believe that you think isn't small government libertarian? Be specific.
Dayum, it really bothers you that I find some common ground with some libertarians.
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
You're not the only totalitarian leftist who likes him. And he doesn't get along either with a single libertarian on the board.
Let him answer the question, I really would like to know how it makes sense that someone formerly called a libertarian resonates only with totalitarians
Another leftist who says I'm not a libertarian ... who can't come up with any examples ...
Yawn
Democrats are just Nazis who miss the 1930s
Another demon in Hell was hatched with elRushbo as part of its name.
You like your left hate simple and clear, huh?
So basically if you don't like the information you are being given you just cry fake news. Makes you a little bitch not worth talking to.I don't understand why 50% of Republicans believe they were.Despite all the evidence I just showed you that Fox and other right wing media sources and politicians all tried pushing the narrative that ANTIFA was behind it and a fucking poll showed 50% of you dumb sons of bitches believed it?It doesn't surprise me that a person like you who is being lied to can't wrap your brain around it despite the evidenceI just gave an example of a right wing lie. Some small right wing radio host somewhere in America suggested that ANTIFA was behind the riot. Soon all the nuts who believe the election was stolen, without any proof, also believe that ANTIFA was behind the Capitol riot. Fox News even reported it. And where did this lie come from? Some small time radio host somewhere in rural white conservative America.You mean like Benghazi and Hillary's emails?We should not do what Democrats did after 2016, and spend four years chasing conspiracy theories.Maybe we should bring back the fairness doctrine.This is not a conspiracy. These are things that have happened. THAT MAKES THEM FACTS.
At the same time, I noted, the 2020 presidential election violated internationally accepted criteria for a free and fair election. “Voters were denied the ‘absolute’ right to a secret ballot [through flawed vote-by-mail systems]. They were denied ‘equal opportunity of access to the media, particularly the mass communications media, in order to put forward their political views.’ They were denied ‘security with respect to their lives and property.’ And they were denied “freedom of movement, assembly, association and expression.’
Pollak: The Real 'Big Lie' Is That the 2020 Election Was Free and Fair
The real "Big Lie" is that the 2020 election was free and fair, when it was marred by rule changes, censorship, and political violence.www.breitbart.com
Someone tell me that did not happen.
Those actually happened, so no, not like that.
Conspiracies are what Democrats do every time you lie about what Trump said. Misquotes = lies
And the next day all the Republicans on USMB were spreading that lie. And they don't know it's a lie. They truly believe what they were told.
I haven't heard anyone on Fox or on anything that I listen to or watch say that. There was at least one antifa person arrested, that's a fact. But that antifa is behind it is just some lame story of a nobody you read about on Crooks and Liars
The Antifa Lie: Conservative Lawmakers, Pundits Push A Baseless Claim That Leftists Were Behind Capitol Insurrection
No verifiable evidence has been presented that antifa supporters were a part of the mob that infiltrated the Capitol building.www.forbes.com
"I don't know if the reports are true, but The Washington Times has just reported some pretty compelling evidence from a facial recognition company that some of the people who breached the Capitol today were not Trump supporters — they were masquerading as Trump supporters and, in fact, were members of the violent terrorist group antifa," Gaetz said.
Anatomy of a lie: How the myth that Antifa stormed the Capitol became a widespread belief among Republicans
Despite numerous debunkings, the lie that Antifa is responsible for the attack, not Trump supporters, has become pervasive among Republicans -- after being promoted by a long list of prominent right-wing people and entities.www.cnn.com
FBI Director Christopher Wray was live on CNN and MSNBC when he told a Senate committee hearing on Tuesday morning that the FBI had not yet found any evidence that subscribers to the Antifa movement were involved in the January attack on the US Capitol.
At that moment, Fox News was in a commercial break from its regular programming. It had just urged viewers to stay tuned for a segment about educators "canceling" Dr. Seuss.
And so America's most popular right-wing television network again missed a chance -- or, perhaps, again chose to miss a chance -- to confront its viewers with the debunking of a lie that has become a widespread belief among right-wing Americans.
In part because of Fox, the conspiracy theory has become pervasive in conservative circles. Opinion polls suggest that a large percentage of Republicans baselessly think that Antifa was primarily responsible for the insurrection that was actually perpetrated by supporters of former President Donald Trump, some of whom have allegedly expressed irritation that Antifa has been given the credit for their own behavior.
Again, no one on Fox or any other mainstream right media is saying antifa was BEHIND that attacks. So what you said it pretty stupid. I just said they are NOT behind it, and you're saying I believe their lies.
So that means that you're saying Antifa IS behind it?
Of course not, you're just being an ass and lying, like Democrats always do
Then I give up. You win.
Antifa was not being January 6. What don't you understand about that you stupid fuck???
Did you know that 80% of statistics are made up on the spot?
BlindBoo
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thats far right in the european scale,, in america far right is libertarian to anarchy/no government,,Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
So they use something like a metric system for politics or what?
Sneaky bastards
"Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. “Conservative” smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free‐market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever‐changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.
“Classical liberal” is a bit closer to the mark, but the word “classical” fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.
“Liberal” may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.
The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato’s work has increasingly come to be called “libertarianism” or “market liberalism.” It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.
This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.
Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African‐Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.
Dragonlady
Designing Woman
Ok.More nothing. Is trolling all you do?Nothing.
I filtered out the petty personal insults, and this was all that was left. Do you any arguments? Evidence? Ideas? Anything intelligent to say? Anything worth responding to?
Change my quotes outside the quote box. Seriously
Yes, you are not to be addressed without your permission. Noted.
And you don't like the rules, talk to the PTBs, but you are not allowed to edit my quotes in the quote box
So, still nuthin'?
I know you don't like me - I'm quite content with that. But I am interested in debating the topic. Even with idiots like you. That is, if and when you post something like a debate. But all you ever do is call me names and shit. It's flattering that you're so fixated on me - but don't you have any ideas you'd like to express?
It depends what you mean not like you. I'm not a fan, I agree with that. If you think I have any negative view of you personally that's your projection.
I don't like what you do. Using libertarian principles to justify Democrat party fascism and totalitarian government and alibiing their racism is pretty pathetic.
As for your changing my quote, yes I have an issue with that. When you misrepresent my views in your posts it's clear that's your opinion, so Democrats love you and everyone else disagrees like everything else you say.
When you change my quote, you are saying that "I" said that and not you. Which is truly a lie. Just don't do that
Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement. By definition, that would make the Republican Party the fascist party in this scenario. Republicans are also lying and saying they won the election and trying to over the results and install their authoritarian leader back in the White House.
That makes every you posted completely false. You need to look in the dictionary, for the words "fascist", "racist" and "totalitarianism". Every time you post you reveal your abject ignorance on all things political, and economic.
Except your side is the one using brown shirt tactics. Right up to arresting the victims of attacks and imprisoning them for defending themselves.
The police are murdering suspects. The police shoot and kill 1000 people every year. In public, in broad daylight, in front of passersby. #1 with a bullet.
American cities paid out over $300 million in excessive force complaints just last year, and the year before that one too. You have multiple members of the same families in multiple cities whose relative have been either killed, or publically attacked by police. Black business people wear suits and ties everywhere so they're not mistaken for "thugs" and every black parent has the "Talk" with their teenagers.
So tell me again that it's the protestors who are the problem here. The rest of the world is not seeing it.
If you're talking about the insurrectionists who were arrested, the tried a violent overthrow of the federal government and threatened the lives of Congressional leaders. They are locked up because it's a federal offense to try to kill the Speaker of the House.
Libertarians are just disenfranchised Republicans with a slight twist. Meh.You kaz, i.e., lie, again. You're no libertarian. No real libertarian would have voted for Trump.LOLI don't like what you do Using libertarian to justify Democrat party fascism and totalitarian government and alibiing their racism is pretty pathetic
I'm not really using the term "libertarian" any more. Not on this board. I still think the word has meaning - a radically different meaning than your conception - but words mean what people mean when they use them. And what you mean when you say "libertarian" has, apparently, utterly nothing to do with what I mean when I use the term.
So, to avoid confusion, let me state clearly that whatever it is you mean by "libertarian" - I'm not it. Clear? I want exactly nothing to do with your Trumpster statist idiocy.
What a bunch of useless hot air. And again you disagree with EVERY libertarian on the board and are saying they aren't libertarians and leftists love you. You slap each other on the butt, high five each other and grove all the time. Even Faun, who is one of the most hate filled leftists on the board. He walks up and is like you're great. Mac. The list goes on. They love the Democrat party, they love you.
So, what do I believe that you think isn't small government libertarian? Be specific.
Dayum, it really bothers you that I find some common ground with some libertarians.
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
You're not the only totalitarian leftist who likes him. And he doesn't get along either with a single libertarian on the board.
Let him answer the question, I really would like to know how it makes sense that someone formerly called a libertarian resonates only with totalitarians
Another leftist who says I'm not a libertarian ... who can't come up with any examples ...
Yawn
Democrats are just Nazis who miss the 1930s
So let me get this straight. Trump employs all of Hitler's tactics. Nationalism. Racism. Trump even starts his own Beer Hall Putsch. And you have the balls to call us Nazi's?
Hitler went to jail after his failed coup. Let's see if Trump follows the same path.
But also keep in mind Hitler came into power after he was let out of prison. At least in this country you can't run for POTUS if you are a convicted felon. That's why Republicans refuse to impeach him in the Senate.
progressive hunter
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its called the american experiment where our founders created a whole new form of government,,thats far right in the european scale,, in america far right is libertarian to anarchy/no government,,Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
So they use something like a metric system for politics or what?
Sneaky bastards
"Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. “Conservative” smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free‐market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever‐changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.
“Classical liberal” is a bit closer to the mark, but the word “classical” fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.
“Liberal” may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.
The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato’s work has increasingly come to be called “libertarianism” or “market liberalism.” It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.
This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.
Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African‐Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.
thats far right in the european scale,, in america far right is libertarian to anarchy/no government,,Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
So they use something like a metric system for politics or what?
Sneaky bastards
"Today, those who subscribe to the principles of the American Revolution — individual liberty, limited government, the free market, and the rule of law — call themselves by a variety of terms, including conservative, libertarian, classical liberal, and liberal. We see problems with all of those terms. “Conservative” smacks of an unwillingness to change, of a desire to preserve the status quo. Only in America do people seem to refer to free‐market capitalism — the most progressive, dynamic, and ever‐changing system the world has ever known — as conservative. Additionally, many contemporary American conservatives favor state intervention in some areas, most notably in trade and into our private lives.
“Classical liberal” is a bit closer to the mark, but the word “classical” fails to capture the contemporary vibrancy of the ideas of freedom.
“Liberal” may well be the perfect word in most of the world — the liberals in societies from China to Iran to South Africa to Argentina tend to be supporters of human rights and free markets — but its meaning has clearly been altered in the contemporary United States.
The Jeffersonian philosophy that animates Cato’s work has increasingly come to be called “libertarianism” or “market liberalism.” It combines an appreciation for entrepreneurship, the market process, and lower taxes with strict respect for civil liberties and skepticism about the benefits of both the welfare state and foreign military adventurism.
This vision brings the wisdom of the American Founders to bear on the problems of today. As did the Founders, it looks to the future with optimism and excitement, eager to discover what great things women and men will do in the coming century. Market liberals appreciate the complexity of a great society, recognizing that socialism and government planning are just too clumsy for the modern world. It is — or used to be — the conventional wisdom that a more complex society needs more government, but the truth is just the opposite. The simpler the society, the less damage government planning does. Planning is cumbersome in an agricultural society, costly in an industrial economy, and impossible in the information age. Today collectivism and planning are outmoded and backward, a drag on social progress.
Libertarians have a cosmopolitan, inclusive vision for society. We applaud the progressive extension of the promises of the Declaration of Independence to more people, especially to women, African‐Americans, religious minorities, and gay and lesbian people. Our greatest challenge today is to continue to extend the promise of political freedom and economic opportunity to those who are still denied it, in our own country and around the world.
Republicans are unregulated free market capitalists who don't respect the government. That's because government is the referee in the game of business.
They don't realize their way makes the rich richer and the rest of us poorer. Or to them, they don't care because they are rich. So sure, let the market decide. Monopolies? No problem. Citizens United? Not even USMB Republicans can defend that decision. It must cause cognitive dissonance in their brains.
Faun
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Huh? What prevents a convicted felon of running for president, other than a felony of rebelling against the government?Libertarians are just disenfranchised Republicans with a slight twist. Meh.You kaz, i.e., lie, again. You're no libertarian. No real libertarian would have voted for Trump.LOLI don't like what you do Using libertarian to justify Democrat party fascism and totalitarian government and alibiing their racism is pretty pathetic
I'm not really using the term "libertarian" any more. Not on this board. I still think the word has meaning - a radically different meaning than your conception - but words mean what people mean when they use them. And what you mean when you say "libertarian" has, apparently, utterly nothing to do with what I mean when I use the term.
So, to avoid confusion, let me state clearly that whatever it is you mean by "libertarian" - I'm not it. Clear? I want exactly nothing to do with your Trumpster statist idiocy.
What a bunch of useless hot air. And again you disagree with EVERY libertarian on the board and are saying they aren't libertarians and leftists love you. You slap each other on the butt, high five each other and grove all the time. Even Faun, who is one of the most hate filled leftists on the board. He walks up and is like you're great. Mac. The list goes on. They love the Democrat party, they love you.
So, what do I believe that you think isn't small government libertarian? Be specific.
Dayum, it really bothers you that I find some common ground with some libertarians.
Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
You're not the only totalitarian leftist who likes him. And he doesn't get along either with a single libertarian on the board.
Let him answer the question, I really would like to know how it makes sense that someone formerly called a libertarian resonates only with totalitarians
Another leftist who says I'm not a libertarian ... who can't come up with any examples ...
Yawn
Democrats are just Nazis who miss the 1930s
So let me get this straight. Trump employs all of Hitler's tactics. Nationalism. Racism. Trump even starts his own Beer Hall Putsch. And you have the balls to call us Nazi's?
Hitler went to jail after his failed coup. Let's see if Trump follows the same path.
But also keep in mind Hitler came into power after he was let out of prison. At least in this country you can't run for POTUS if you are a convicted felon. That's why Republicans refuse to impeach him in the Senate.
toobfreak
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No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism.
You better get better dictionaries. Your web dictionaries are just copying shit from each other.
Unlike you, I grew up in a fact-rich existence.
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You're reading impaired. He never said that. He said he won't call himself that on this forum to avoid confusion with morons like you who call themselves libertarians.Libertarian. That is singular.
And it's unclear how dblack is a libertarian, that's why I asked him.
And I answered. You're not listening. As far as you're concerned - I'm not a libertarian. Clear?
You said you don't call yourself a libertarian.
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No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism.
You better get better dictionaries. Your web dictionaries are just copying shit from each other.
Unlike you, I grew up in a fact-rich existence.
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Fail.
Nothing there discounts Dragonlady's dictionary definition that fascism is rightwing.
toobfreak
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No insurrectionists were arrested.If you're talking about the insurrectionists who were arrested,
Only in your diseased, mind. The Fed was in no danger, and the police practically let them in.the tried a violent overthrow of the federal government
With their bare hands?and threatened the lives of Congressional leaders.
No attempt was made on the Speaker. No protester ever even got remotely close to her. About 25% of those charged are charged with nothing more than misdemeanor trespass.They are locked up because it's a federal offense to try to kill the Speaker of the House.
It's a sad world where idiots like you without the slightest grip on reality pass themselves off as able to give out advice, input or opinions.
Dragonlady
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thats far right in the european scale,, in america far right is libertarian to anarchy/no government,,Fascism is a white nationalist form of political movement.
We need to invent a pill to counter stupidity. Political systems have to do with POLITICS, Honey, and have NOTHING to do with race! If the Nazi Germans used fascism, that doesn't mean that Italians, English, Blacks or Laotians can't also do the same, idiot!
Fascism isn't even confined to Right or Left, but rather, the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT.
Wherever Fascism is employed, you will always have BIG GOVERNMENT, like in America.
No it is not. There is a dictionary definition of fascism. Here are 3 different dictionary definitions of fascism. Every one of the confirm that this is a right-wing form of nationalist and racist government, with a strong authoritarian leadership, which suppresses opposition.
From the Oxford Dictionary:
an extreme right-wing political system or attitude that is in favour of strong central government, aggressively promoting your own country or race above others, and that does not allow any opposition
fascism noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of fascism noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
From the Cambridge Dictionary:
fascism
1. a political system based on a very powerful leader, state control, and being…
How about Merriam Webster:
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Definition of FASCISM
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible… See the full definition
No you stupid dolt, that's incorrect. Merriam Webster is an American dictionary based in Springfield, Massachusetts.
‘Fascism’: The Word’s Meaning and History
And no, that meme about us isn’t true
www.merriam-webster.com
You know, you could google shit and check it out before you post your idiocy and ignorance for all to read.
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