The biggest problem America faces? Obamacare? Terrorism? Politicians?

[BULLDOG]

At least we didn't threaten to kill electors and call for the impeachment of s president before he was even sworn in to office.

But I agree. The American people should put the Democrat Party to death!

Uneducated Deplorables will be the death of America....

So there weren't death threats for Obama before he was sworn in? You know better

They cherry pick crazy Dems on the BS/Hate GOP propaganda machine. And make the dupes hate all Dems. Great job.

They don't make the dupes hate all democrats. The dupes already hate all democrats. They just reinforce the crazy lies that the dupes already believe.

 

[francoHFW]

At least we didn't threaten to kill electors and call for the impeachment of s president before he was even sworn in to office.

But I agree. The American people should put the Democrat Party to death!

Uneducated Deplorables will be the death of America....

So there weren't death threats for Obama before he was sworn in? You know better

They cherry pick crazy Dems on the BS/Hate GOP propaganda machine. And make the dupes hate all Dems. Great job.

They don't make the dupes hate all democrats. The dupes already hate all democrats. They just reinforce the crazy lies that the dupes already believe.

..and made them HATE in the first place lol.

 

[BULLDOG]

At least we didn't threaten to kill electors and call for the impeachment of s president before he was even sworn in to office.

But I agree. The American people should put the Democrat Party to death!

Uneducated Deplorables will be the death of America....

So there weren't death threats for Obama before he was sworn in? You know better

They cherry pick crazy Dems on the BS/Hate GOP propaganda machine. And make the dupes hate all Dems. Great job.

They don't make the dupes hate all democrats. The dupes already hate all democrats. They just reinforce the crazy lies that the dupes already believe.

..and made them HATE in the first place lol.

Yep. They have been working at that for a long time.

 

[Carter Malone]

Trump and his love and fear of Putin. How that has contributed to the right-left divide is beyond my understanding. To the right, Putin is an ally to be sucked up to. It's repugnant but there it is.


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[francoHFW]

At least we didn't threaten to kill electors and call for the impeachment of s president before he was even sworn in to office.

But I agree. The American people should put the Democrat Party to death!

So there weren't death threats for Obama before he was sworn in? You know better

They cherry pick crazy Dems on the BS/Hate GOP propaganda machine. And make the dupes hate all Dems. Great job.

They don't make the dupes hate all democrats. The dupes already hate all democrats. They just reinforce the crazy lies that the dupes already believe.

..and made them HATE in the first place lol.

Yep. They have been working at that for a long time.

Newt and Rush 1987. or so.

 

[Chuz Life]

Add my name to the list of those who are glad the divide is deepening. For decades now, the leftardz have been poking a sleeping giant with their leftarded agenda. The giant was slow to wake and it barely awoke in time to defeat Hitlary. Now it's time to reverse as much of their leftarded commie baby killing drug crazed socialist agenda as we can.

No one expects the snowflakes to take it quietly or peacefully but fuck them. The gloves are off and I (for one) am glad that they finally are.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a battle to the death.

... of the country.
.

 

[Mac1958]

How do we come back?

My guess is that, since it's now infected the culture, it has to be fixed through the culture.

That means having "leaders" from all walks of life to be brave and start calling their own side, and start sincerely reaching out to the other. Then perhaps some kind of momentum can be reached, some kind of escape velocity.

And no, I don't see that happening any time soon.
.

If we can't find leaders doing that we have to become leaders doing that

Well, that would be a second option. The question is how long that will take, and how much further damage will be done before then.
.

 

[Mac1958]

Well, Grampa Murked U , this thread has gone as one would have expected.

People just can't help themselves, they're locked into the binary mindset we're seeing. "It's all your fault".

All hate, all anger, all the time.

I don't know what fixes this.
.

 

[initforme]

let's remember that this country has aways been divided in many more ways than it is United. race religion class gender nationality politics union/ confederate the list goes on. division is healthy and if we adopt one philosophy only and say we are United it's game over. When have we ever been United?

 

[deanrd]

Us.

Yep. We've allowed ourselves to become more divided. This was our choice.
.

Republicans are 90% white. Democrats are everyone else. There is a reason for that.

Your shtick is tiresome. Please for the love of god find some new material

Until Republicans get over their racism, getting new material is difficult.

Fortunately, the new leader of the GOP, serial adulterer and Russian minion, Donald Trump, has been providing new material every day.

We did that in the 1860s. We can't, however, get over yours. You are the only one who can do that

44 - Georgia GOP Congressman Calls Obama 'Uppity'

What were two Republicans thinking, calling Obama 'tar baby' and 'boy'?

Georgia Senator prays for Obama's death - in public

GOP Senator Asks Christians to Pray for Obama’s Speedy Death

Oh yea, we don't do that anymore.

But it's OK. Your kind treats gays even worse.

 

[danielpalos]

Why does Mr. Trump want to increase spending on the drug war and not health care?

that was one of my main problems with the sessions appointment. Lets not forget the Holder regime in the AG's office raided dispernseries in states with legal cannibis. Dem Or Repub, the drug war has done more to undermine the fourth(also second, 8th, and 5th and sixth) amendment rights of Americans than any other policy, including the so called war on terror.

The right claims they are for limited government and Individual Responsibility to go along with Individual Liberty.

We are. Problem is not everyone in the right is actually on the right.

There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.

There is no grant of authority for general welfare. There is one on interstate and foreign trade

Yes, there is; it says so in the general welfare clause. There is no common Offense clause or general Warfare clause.

 

[Avatar4321]

that was one of my main problems with the sessions appointment. Lets not forget the Holder regime in the AG's office raided dispernseries in states with legal cannibis. Dem Or Repub, the drug war has done more to undermine the fourth(also second, 8th, and 5th and sixth) amendment rights of Americans than any other policy, including the so called war on terror.

The right claims they are for limited government and Individual Responsibility to go along with Individual Liberty.

We are. Problem is not everyone in the right is actually on the right.

There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.

There is no grant of authority for general welfare. There is one on interstate and foreign trade

Yes, there is; it says so in the general welfare clause. There is no common Offense clause or general Warfare clause.

So there is no general welfare clause but it says so in it?

The constitution only mentions general welfare in the preamble. The preamble is not a grant of authority. It is a statement of what the purpose of the Constitution is. The grants of authority in article 8 and elsewhere define how they are allowed to seek the general welfare.

The constitution provides that the federal government may regular interstate commerce and foreign trade. The drug trade falls within that scope.

So you are exactly backward in your assertions

 

[danielpalos]

The right claims they are for limited government and Individual Responsibility to go along with Individual Liberty.

We are. Problem is not everyone in the right is actually on the right.

There is no drug war clause; there is a general welfare clause. Guess what the right wing has the most problem with.

There is no grant of authority for general welfare. There is one on interstate and foreign trade

Yes, there is; it says so in the general welfare clause. There is no common Offense clause or general Warfare clause.

So there is no general welfare clause but it says so in it?

The constitution only mentions general welfare in the preamble. The preamble is not a grant of authority. It is a statement of what the purpose of the Constitution is. The grants of authority in article 8 and elsewhere define how they are allowed to seek the general welfare.

The constitution provides that the federal government may regular interstate commerce and foreign trade. The drug trade falls within that scope.

So you are exactly backward in your assertions

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law or economics.

Providing for the general welfare is in Article 1, Section 8.

 

[Harry Dresden]

many of the far right yes i agree.....now lets talk about far lefties like you dean.....you hate more than half the people in the country .....and why?.....they just have to not agree with your shit and they will be put into that big fucking tent you put everyone in.....YOU are no fucking different than those far righties who are on the other side of that coin all you assholes are on....now prove me wrong.....

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors, The Clintons literally had people murdered, Obama was born in Kenya, supporting the right to abortion is the same as wanting to kill babies, Giving tax breaks to the rich is more important than having affordable healthcare available to all, we are in danger of our legal system being taken over by Sharia. All Muslims are a threat, and could become mass murdering terrorists at any minute, and all the other crap that comes with being a RWNJ, I would love to have a rational discussion about the issues with them. So far, I haven't found any right wingers like that.

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors
far right yes like that dipshit shootspeeder,tipsey is another piece of shit....but a moderate righty no.....and i can say the same about the far left saying the same about republicans,the example is right here your buddy dean,and matthew is another, luddy calls anyone he doesnt like traitors,lakota calls people who disagrees with his bullshit Nazicons....your side aint exactly nicer than the right bulldog....

So point him or her out. I know there are extremes on both sides, but point out one on the right that doesn't support the claims made in my post, and the other crazy right wing accusations and claims that are part and parcel of the right wing ideology. Can you disavow those crazy accusations and claims?

hjmick leans right but he doesnt think like that.....like i said bulldog moderates on both sides can actually have a conversation ....the far left and right think ANYONE who does not agree with them are trying to destroy the country,are traitors,should go live somewhere else,eat shit and die....the list goes on....

many of the far right yes i agree.....now lets talk about far lefties like you dean.....you hate more than half the people in the country .....and why?.....they just have to not agree with your shit and they will be put into that big fucking tent you put everyone in.....YOU are no fucking different than those far righties who are on the other side of that coin all you assholes are on....now prove me wrong.....

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors, The Clintons literally had people murdered, Obama was born in Kenya, supporting the right to abortion is the same as wanting to kill babies, Giving tax breaks to the rich is more important than having affordable healthcare available to all, we are in danger of our legal system being taken over by Sharia. All Muslims are a threat, and could become mass murdering terrorists at any minute, and all the other crap that comes with being a RWNJ, I would love to have a rational discussion about the issues with them. So far, I haven't found any right wingers like that.

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors
far right yes like that dipshit shootspeeder,tipsey is another piece of shit....but a moderate righty no.....and i can say the same about the far left saying the same about republicans,the example is right here your buddy dean,and matthew is another, luddy calls anyone he doesnt like traitors,lakota calls people who disagrees with his bullshit Nazicons....your side aint exactly nicer than the right bulldog....

So point him or her out. I know there are extremes on both sides, but point out one on the right that doesn't support the claims made in my post, and the other crazy right wing accusations and claims that are part and parcel of the right wing ideology. Can you disavow those crazy accusations and claims?

hjmick leans right but he doesnt think like that.....like i said bulldog moderates on both sides can actually have a conversation ....the far left and right think ANYONE who does not agree with them are trying to destroy the country,are traitors,should go live somewhere else,eat shit and die....the list goes on....

Great. you found one right winger who you don't think adheres to all the standard right wing rhetoric. Such a large reasonable group you got there.

you said point him or her out....which i did,but now lets move the goalposts and say i need to name more....now its your turn point out a lefty here who does not adhere to the far left way of thinking which is ....
ANYONE who does not agree with them are obviously assholes and can go fuck themselves.....

 

[Harry Dresden]

no it was the die hard party people on both sides who divided us and your good buddy dean is one of the best examples of a lefty we have in this forum who has been doing that since he first joined....

Republicans divided the country years ago when they demonized the word "liberal".

What is good about a Republican conservative?

They have an entire hate list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

They aren't for anything except tearing things down. They don't build, don't invent, they scare people, they are dishonest. And their single excuse is "Democrats do it". The mantra they use to justify their evil deeds.

Look at the GOP cutting food stamps for poor children, daycare, school lunches and children's healthcare. To justify that, they say, "You murder babies". I don't know a single Democrat who is for abortion. Democrats are for women's rights. And that includes the right of women to have self determination, something Republicans want to end. Clearly, Republicans don't care about babies once they are born. Their actions prove it.

Now come on right wingers, start crying, "He saying it again and it's not true". Only it is true. We all know it to be true.

many of the far right yes i agree.....now lets talk about far lefties like you dean.....you hate more than half the people in the country .....and why?.....they just have to not agree with your shit and they will be put into that big fucking tent you put everyone in.....YOU are no fucking different than those far righties who are on the other side of that coin all you assholes are on....now prove me wrong.....

Except we're not misinformed and don't hate anything but the incredible lies and bs character assassination you believe. Thanks Fox Rush Breitbart etc etc etc. See sig, last line.

are you telling me you are a far lefty franco?....

Anywhere but FoxAmerica I'm a pragmatic centrist...Go Bills.

then why were you defending what i said about the far left which is true?......go bills?.....lol.....

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors, The Clintons literally had people murdered, Obama was born in Kenya, supporting the right to abortion is the same as wanting to kill babies, Giving tax breaks to the rich is more important than having affordable healthcare available to all, we are in danger of our legal system being taken over by Sharia. All Muslims are a threat, and could become mass murdering terrorists at any minute, and all the other crap that comes with being a RWNJ, I would love to have a rational discussion about the issues with them. So far, I haven't found any right wingers like that.

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors
far right yes like that dipshit shootspeeder,tipsey is another piece of shit....but a moderate righty no.....and i can say the same about the far left saying the same about republicans,the example is right here your buddy dean,and matthew is another, luddy calls anyone he doesnt like traitors,lakota calls people who disagrees with his bullshit Nazicons....your side aint exactly nicer than the right bulldog....

So point him or her out. I know there are extremes on both sides, but point out one on the right that doesn't support the claims made in my post, and the other crazy right wing accusations and claims that are part and parcel of the right wing ideology. Can you disavow those crazy accusations and claims?

hjmick leans right but he doesnt think like that.....like i said bulldog moderates on both sides can actually have a conversation ....the far left and right think ANYONE who does not agree with them are trying to destroy the country,are traitors,should go live somewhere else,eat shit and die....the list goes on....

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors, The Clintons literally had people murdered, Obama was born in Kenya, supporting the right to abortion is the same as wanting to kill babies, Giving tax breaks to the rich is more important than having affordable healthcare available to all, we are in danger of our legal system being taken over by Sharia. All Muslims are a threat, and could become mass murdering terrorists at any minute, and all the other crap that comes with being a RWNJ, I would love to have a rational discussion about the issues with them. So far, I haven't found any right wingers like that.

If you will point out a right winger who doesn't claim the the Democrats want to destroy the country, and are all traitors
far right yes like that dipshit shootspeeder,tipsey is another piece of shit....but a moderate righty no.....and i can say the same about the far left saying the same about republicans,the example is right here your buddy dean,and matthew is another, luddy calls anyone he doesnt like traitors,lakota calls people who disagrees with his bullshit Nazicons....your side aint exactly nicer than the right bulldog....

So point him or her out. I know there are extremes on both sides, but point out one on the right that doesn't support the claims made in my post, and the other crazy right wing accusations and claims that are part and parcel of the right wing ideology. Can you disavow those crazy accusations and claims?

hjmick leans right but he doesnt think like that.....like i said bulldog moderates on both sides can actually have a conversation ....the far left and right think ANYONE who does not agree with them are trying to destroy the country,are traitors,should go live somewhere else,eat shit and die....the list goes on....

Great. you found one right winger who you don't think adheres to all the standard right wing rhetoric. Such a large reasonable group you got there.

you said point him or her out....which i did,but now lets move the goalposts and say i need to name more....now its your turn point out a lefty here who does not adhere to the far left way of thinking which is ....
ANYONE who does not agree with them are obviously assholes and can go fuck themselves.....

Mac

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Franco a centrist?

Hahaha, just call me St Fucking Nick then

 

[sartre play]

We have always had people who push things to the extreme. we have always had one issue voters, we always have had people who wont look at both sides of an issue. things don't seem to be getting better for the average American, is it possible that while we fight each other the power/money people are fighting each other to gobble up more power & more money for them self, with little regard for us.

 

[francoHFW]

Republicans divided the country years ago when they demonized the word "liberal".

What is good about a Republican conservative?

They have an entire hate list:

1. Gays
2. Muslims
3. Blacks
4. Hispanics
5. Liberals
6. Jews
7. Women's rights
8. Sick and disabled
9. College professors
10. Scientists

They aren't for anything except tearing things down. They don't build, don't invent, they scare people, they are dishonest. And their single excuse is "Democrats do it". The mantra they use to justify their evil deeds.

Look at the GOP cutting food stamps for poor children, daycare, school lunches and children's healthcare. To justify that, they say, "You murder babies". I don't know a single Democrat who is for abortion. Democrats are for women's rights. And that includes the right of women to have self determination, something Republicans want to end. Clearly, Republicans don't care about babies once they are born. Their actions prove it.

Now come on right wingers, start crying, "He saying it again and it's not true". Only it is true. We all know it to be true.

many of the far right yes i agree.....now lets talk about far lefties like you dean.....you hate more than half the people in the country .....and why?.....they just have to not agree with your shit and they will be put into that big fucking tent you put everyone in.....YOU are no fucking different than those far righties who are on the other side of that coin all you assholes are on....now prove me wrong.....

Except we're not misinformed and don't hate anything but the incredible lies and bs character assassination you believe. Thanks Fox Rush Breitbart etc etc etc. See sig, last line.

are you telling me you are a far lefty franco?....

Anywhere but FoxAmerica I'm a pragmatic centrist...Go Bills.

then why were you defending what i said about the far left which is true?......go bills?.....lol.....

Half the GOP are misinformed haters. They hate "violent Dems" who it turns out aren't Dems at all- and the BS character assassination of crooked Hilary, Obama, pedophile Bill, Lerner, Holder etc etc never go anywhere in the real world. I blame the brainwashing/lying/spinning GOP BS/hate propaganda machine at this point, and lying GOP pols like Trump....his campaign promises of being a better friend of minorities etc than Hillary turn out to be total garbage. Bills looking GOOD!!!! lol argh. Well you never know...The QB might break out, or send in Cardel Jones gd it...