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They Did Notcolfax_m said:They did.karpenter said:Why Didn't Dem's Subpoena Them During Their Failed "Investigations" ??
Yes they did. Yet they got a blanket response.
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They Did Notcolfax_m said:They did.karpenter said:Why Didn't Dem's Subpoena Them During Their Failed "Investigations" ??
There’s much more to this than the phone call. Bolton was in on many things.
The impeachment is about the phone call. Nothing else factual has been provided as evidence.
You’re factually incorrect. The case against Trump goes well beyond the phone call with Zelensky.
That's funny! That is all the House used as evidence and then lied about it being factual, instead choosing to believe something along Schiff's fairy tale.
That’s also factually incorrect. There were thousands of pages of testimony corroborating the Democratic case.
Corroborating? You need to learn the meaning of that word before you misuse it again. The phone call was the only basis for the charges against Trump under Article 1 of the impeachment. Everything else is pure fiction or hearsay.
What? WTF?I’m fine with that, but everything he says has to be questioned. I doubt he is above lying under oath. He’s a neocon you know?Put him under oath.
Of course he should be questioned. But if all you’re going to do is claim he’s lying, then you’re case is rather weak.
I mean, if Bolton testifies that Trump connected aid and investigations, then Trump would need to respond. If the response is just “he’s lying” then that’s a very weak response.
Bolton would need something on hard-copy to prove he just wasn't saying that Trump knew, and then, what if all this is true? It still means nothing!
They Did Notcolfax_m said:They did.karpenter said:Why Didn't Dem's Subpoena Them During Their Failed "Investigations" ??
Yes they did. Yet they got a blanket response.
WTF?? Who says hearsay doesn't count? You??Nope.That’s also factually incorrect. There were thousands of pages of testimony corroborating the Democratic case.
Rumors and heresy don't count.
There was zero actual evidence and zero actual witnesses.
Shiffdt refused and still refuses to subpoena them.So lets have Mulvaney and Pompeo testify.
What? WTF?I’m fine with that, but everything he says has to be questioned. I doubt he is above lying under oath. He’s a neocon you know?
Of course he should be questioned. But if all you’re going to do is claim he’s lying, then you’re case is rather weak.
I mean, if Bolton testifies that Trump connected aid and investigations, then Trump would need to respond. If the response is just “he’s lying” then that’s a very weak response.
Bolton would need something on hard-copy to prove he just wasn't saying that Trump knew, and then, what if all this is true? It still means nothing!
Goalposts are moving. First you wanted firsthand witnesses. Now you’re demanding documentary evidence. Nothing will ever satisfy the true Trump believers.
If it’s all true, then it contradicts something that the Trump defense has been working very hard to convince us of. Wouldn’t you wonder why Trump was trying to sell you on a lie that didn’t even matter?
Dumbfuck, abuse of power is an impeachable offense. The House drafted an article of impeachment on abuse of power against Nixon and Clinton as well.The articles don't list a crime or impeachable wrongdoing.It's about more than just that one phone call. It was a course of conduct for which he was impeached. I highly recommend you actually read the articles of impeachment or have them explained to you if you're that incapable of understanding them.
Just 2 vague whines.
WTF?? Who says hearsay doesn't count? You??Nope.That’s also factually incorrect. There were thousands of pages of testimony corroborating the Democratic case.
Rumors and heresy don't count.
There was zero actual evidence and zero actual witnesses.
And there was actual evidence. From Impeached Trump himself...
"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."
Drafts of the book outline the potential testimony of the former national security adviser if he were called as a witness in the president’s impeachment trial.
WASHINGTON — President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, according to an unpublished manuscript by the former adviser, John R. Bolton.
NYT: Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Demands for Inquiries, Bolton Book Says
John Bolton Reportedly Recalls Trump Tying Ukraine Aid To Biden Investigation
How can Republicans not vote for witnesses after this? By Maggie Haberman and Michael S. Schmidt. They are two of the Times best and most credible reporters.
Dumbfuck, abuse of power is an impeachable offense. The House drafted an article of impeachment on abuse of power against Nixon and Clinton as well.The articles don't list a crime or impeachable wrongdoing.It's about more than just that one phone call. It was a course of conduct for which he was impeached. I highly recommend you actually read the articles of impeachment or have them explained to you if you're that incapable of understanding them.
Just 2 vague whines.
Ukraine and America have a mutual anti corruption treaty for cooperation.WTF?? Who says hearsay doesn't count? You??
And there was actual evidence. From Impeached Trump himself...
"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."
LOLOLOLWhat? WTF?Of course he should be questioned. But if all you’re going to do is claim he’s lying, then you’re case is rather weak.
I mean, if Bolton testifies that Trump connected aid and investigations, then Trump would need to respond. If the response is just “he’s lying” then that’s a very weak response.
Bolton would need something on hard-copy to prove he just wasn't saying that Trump knew, and then, what if all this is true? It still means nothing!
Goalposts are moving. First you wanted firsthand witnesses. Now you’re demanding documentary evidence. Nothing will ever satisfy the true Trump believers.
If it’s all true, then it contradicts something that the Trump defense has been working very hard to convince us of. Wouldn’t you wonder why Trump was trying to sell you on a lie that didn’t even matter?
Bolton is not a firsthand witness either as he was FIRED by Trump. If Trump actually did anything that Bolton didn't like, why didn't Bolton appear before the House impeachment inquiry?
I just said where it came from. Are you hard of learning??WTF?? Who says hearsay doesn't count? You??Nope.That’s also factually incorrect. There were thousands of pages of testimony corroborating the Democratic case.
Rumors and heresy don't count.
There was zero actual evidence and zero actual witnesses.
And there was actual evidence. From Impeached Trump himself...
"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."
What is your source for that comment? Is that Schiff's fantasy conversation?
I just said where it came from. Are you hard of learning??WTF?? Who says hearsay doesn't count? You??Nope.That’s also factually incorrect. There were thousands of pages of testimony corroborating the Democratic case.
Rumors and heresy don't count.
There was zero actual evidence and zero actual witnesses.
And there was actual evidence. From Impeached Trump himself...
"Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it..."
What is your source for that comment? Is that Schiff's fantasy conversation?
Boltins publisher is dragging Democrats around by the noseBolton is cashing in on left wing hate.
His profits from his book makes it impossible for him to be a fair witness at this point
...….next
it is not a coupeachable offenseWhat? WTF?I’m fine with that, but everything he says has to be questioned. I doubt he is above lying under oath. He’s a neocon you know?
Of course he should be questioned. But if all you’re going to do is claim he’s lying, then you’re case is rather weak.
I mean, if Bolton testifies that Trump connected aid and investigations, then Trump would need to respond. If the response is just “he’s lying” then that’s a very weak response.
Bolton would need something on hard-copy to prove he just wasn't saying that Trump knew, and then, what if all this is true? It still means nothing!
Goalposts are moving. First you wanted firsthand witnesses. Now you’re demanding documentary evidence. Nothing will ever satisfy the true Trump believers.
If it’s all true, then it contradicts something that the Trump defense has been working very hard to convince us of. Wouldn’t you wonder why Trump was trying to sell you on a lie that didn’t even matter?