The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?

[Moonglow]

Define socialism

To you....socialism is any time the government does anything to help the people

sorry, asshole, your hero obozo the great is really more of a marxist collectivist----------look it up ya fricken jerk.

Ok

Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist

Do you even know what the words mean?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

How many people died from famines under the Czars?

"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

ObamaCare.

Why are you requesting info re:the Czars?

I didn't know a collective included private corporations, maybe it's a fascist collective?

 

[PoliticalChic]

sorry, asshole, your hero obozo the great is really more of a marxist collectivist----------look it up ya fricken jerk.

Ok

Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist

Do you even know what the words mean?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

Totally unrelated to what I posted but a wonderful attempt at meaninless cut and paste passed off as your own

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

 

[PoliticalChic]

sorry, asshole, your hero obozo the great is really more of a marxist collectivist----------look it up ya fricken jerk.

Ok

Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist

Do you even know what the words mean?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

How many people died from famines under the Czars?

"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

ObamaCare.

Why are you requesting info re:the Czars?

I didn't know a collective included private corporations, maybe it's a fascist collective?

Let's not speak of things you didn't know....after all, this space isn't infinite.

From the post:

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too.

 

[Moonglow]

So that's what you call a slow imposition of socio-political controls slowly since you are weak on power to implement?

 

[bripat9643]

thats true, but many times the damage is already done. the better solution is to elect people who understand what this country stands for------------------and its not socialism, winger/jake.

Define socialism

To you....socialism is any time the government does anything to help the people

sorry, asshole, your hero obozo the great is really more of a marxist collectivist----------look it up ya fricken jerk.

Ok

Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist

Do you even know what the words mean?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

How many people died from famines under the Czars?

No one died from famine under the Czars that I'm aware of. Perhaps you could enlighten us.

 

[rightwinger]

Ok

Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist

Do you even know what the words mean?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

Totally unrelated to what I posted but a wonderful attempt at meaninless cut and paste passed off as your own

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

I ask for a specific Obama policy and you go into a diatribe against the Communist Manifesto

Did you have these issues as a child? Did your parents just ignore your disability or did they enable it? I know some children with ADHD and they exhibit similar difficulties in remaining focused

 

[Dad2three]

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

Totally unrelated to what I posted but a wonderful attempt at meaninless cut and paste passed off as your own

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

I ask for a specific Obama policy and you go into a diatribe against the Communist Manifesto

Did you have these issues as a child? Did your parents just ignore your disability or did they enable it? I know some children with ADHD and they exhibit similar difficulties in remaining focused

I know you've slowed down....to be expected at your age...but you abuse the privilege.


Sure I'll help again:

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Of course, lying is on bar to your Liberal credentials, is it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

For Jeremy Bentham the answer was happiness which he defined as the overall happiness created for everyone affected by an action.
"I. The business of government is to promote the happiness of the society, by punishing and rewarding. That part of its business which consists in punishing, is more particularly the subject of penal law. In proportion as an act tends to disturb that happiness, in proportion as the tendency of it is pernicious, will be the demand it creates for punishment. What happiness consists of we have already seen: enjoyment of pleasures, security from pains."
Jeremy Bentham An Introduction to the Principles of Morals and Legislation Chapter VII Library of Economics and Liberty

You see government as the supreme ruler of the enslaved population, handing out punishment and reward consistent with whatever group of thugs holds the greatest power.

You turn to rulers to impose on others their will, which is always claimed in the name "of the people."

Who are "the people?" Anyone who is not the current intended victim.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Yet businesses do better under Democratic control

Only a very few, very large businesses - which depend on the insider machinations of corruption to prosper.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Does the "Preamble" count?

No.

The preamble explains the reasons why they were enacting the Constitution.

It gives no commands, makes no binding law.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You truly are retarded, Dumb2three.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?


No.

The business of govt is to keep others from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

Including, keeping government from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

If nobody is trying to interfere with you, then government's business is to do NOTHING to you.... or for you.

 

[rightwinger]

Totally unrelated to what I posted but a wonderful attempt at meaninless cut and paste passed off as your own

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

I ask for a specific Obama policy and you go into a diatribe against the Communist Manifesto

Did you have these issues as a child? Did your parents just ignore your disability or did they enable it? I know some children with ADHD and they exhibit similar difficulties in remaining focused

I know you've slowed down....to be expected at your age...but you abuse the privilege.


Sure I'll help again:

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Of course, lying is on bar to your Liberal credentials, is it.

You have yet to point out a specific Obama policy that is either Marxist or Collectivist.

Why don't you just revert to another of your anti-FDR rants and be done with it?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

I ask for a specific Obama policy and you go into a diatribe against the Communist Manifesto

Did you have these issues as a child? Did your parents just ignore your disability or did they enable it? I know some children with ADHD and they exhibit similar difficulties in remaining focused

I know you've slowed down....to be expected at your age...but you abuse the privilege.


Sure I'll help again:

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Of course, lying is on bar to your Liberal credentials, is it.

You have yet to point out a specific Obama policy that is either Marxist or Collectivist.

Why don't you just revert to another of your anti-FDR rants and be done with it?

Stop whining.

You got a custard pie in the kisser....you lied....caught lying....

No big deal: you're a Liberal....folks expect low-class behavior from you.

 

[Dad2three]

Totally unrelated to what I posted but a wonderful attempt at meaninless cut and paste passed off as your own

Liar.

You tried to pull a fast one, demanding: "Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did.

Do you have reading comprehension problems or do you just post arbitrary cut and pastes?

Did you have these issues as a child or did they develop as you posted on USMB?

Oooo....you poor thing.

I embarrassed you by smashing you absurd suggestion that Obama doesn't reflect Marxist collectivist thinking.

And all you can think of is lying your way out of it.

You actually wrote:"Point to any Obama policy that could be considered Marxist Collectivist."

And I did just that.

Again?

1. Government control of private sector activity...is aptly described as Bolshevik- or Marxist, socialist, collectivist, statist, or, for that matter, fascist, too. Indeed, nationalized health care was one of the first programs enacted by the Bolsheviks after they seized power in 1917 (Banks, insurance companies and means of communications were also taken over by Soviet authorities immediately. Dziewanowski, "A History of Soviet Russia," p. 107.

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

a. And, Sigerist was one of the apologists for Stalin, including his state-engineered famine in the Ukraine. 7 million perished (The History Place - Genocide in the 20th Century Stalin s Forced Famine 1932-33).

b. Sigerist "shared with the architects of Soviet health policy under Stalin an outlook best described as medical totalitarianism. He really believed that humanity would be better off if every individual were under the medical supervision of the state from cradle to grave....[and] Sigerist's belief in the necessity for state control over all aspects of medicine ultimately made him an apologist for state control over most aspects of human life." Fee and Brown, eds. "Making Medical History: The Life and Times of Henry E. Sigerist," p. 252



Do you even know what you voted for?

punch sound

I ask for a specific Obama policy and you go into a diatribe against the Communist Manifesto

Did you have these issues as a child? Did your parents just ignore your disability or did they enable it? I know some children with ADHD and they exhibit similar difficulties in remaining focused

I know you've slowed down....to be expected at your age...but you abuse the privilege.


Sure I'll help again:

2. Obama wasn't the first Bolshevik to support socialized medicine. For context, there was Henry Sigerist: "He devoted himself to the study of history of medicine.Socialized Medicine in the Soviet Union(1937), andHistory of Medicinewere among his most important works. He emerged as a major spokesman for "compulsory health insurance". ...He attacked theAmerican Medical Associationbecause of his conflicting views onsocialized medicine." Henry E. Sigerist - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Of course, lying is on bar to your Liberal credentials, is it.

Most industrialized countries, and many developing countries, operate some form of publicly funded health care with universal coverage as the goal. According to the Institute of Medicine and others, the United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care.



Winston Churchill was a Bolshevik



Winston Churchill was a Bolshevik
Guess who helped launch socialized healthcare in the U.K.? The ultimate conservative icon -- and he was proud of it



Long before many of today’s frothing right-wing demagogues were born, American conservatives came to idolize Winston Churchill, the late Tory prime minister whose wartime leadership of the British people transformed into the living symbol of democracy armed. That reputation was cemented by his legendary Missouri speech in 1946 warning of the “Iron Curtain” drawn by the Soviet Communists across Eastern Europe. Indeed, journalists and bloggers on the right admire the old warhorse so much that he has even outpolled Ronald Reagan as their “Man of the Century.”


Yet by the standards of the present moment, as these same conservatives mobilize against health care reform to “stop socialism,” that same great man was actually a raving Bolshevik. For among his most enduring legacies was the founding and sustenance of the system that became the National Health Service. Arguably as much as any other British politician, it was Churchill who established “socialized medicine.”

Winston Churchill was a Bolshevik - Salon.com

 

[Uncensored2008]

You have yet to point out a specific Obama policy that is either Marxist or Collectivist.

Why don't you just revert to another of your anti-FDR rants and be done with it?

Stupid lies?

Your strategy is jaw dropping stupid lies?

You collectivists are indeed desperate to the point of panic.

 

[Dad2three]

The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?


No.

The business of govt is to keep others from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

Including, keeping government from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

If nobody is trying to interfere with you, then government's business is to do NOTHING to you.... or for you.

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it."

Thomas Jefferson

 

[Uncensored2008]

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it."

Thomas Jefferson

I suppose I should put you on ignore.

Rarely do you post anything even related to the topic of the thread you're posting in. Generally the cut & paste idiocy you post is just random shit from the hate sites that substitute for thinking with you.

Non-sequitur, such as this post, actually represents the pinnacle of the quality of your posts.

 

[Dad2three]

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it."

Thomas Jefferson

I suppose I should put you on ignore.

Rarely do you post anything even related to the topic of the thread you're posting in. Generally the cut & paste idiocy you post is just random shit from the hate sites that substitute for thinking with you.

Non-sequitur, such as this post, actually represents the pinnacle of the quality of your posts.

Yes THIS

"The only orthodox object of the institution of government is to secure the greatest degree of happiness possible to the general mass of those associated under it."

Thomas Jefferson


ISN'T related to this:


"Little-Acorn said: ↑
The Business of Government is to Promote Happiness or Business?


No.

The business of govt is to keep others from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

Including, keeping government from interfering unjustly with your pursuit of happiness or business.

If nobody is trying to interfere with you, then government's business is to do NOTHING to you.... or for you."


lol, You fukkking wingnut, PLEASE put me on ignore, as if I gave a fuk! Weird how right wingers can NEVER refute honesty or support their own posits, lol