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The Chinese plague and its real target-the First Amendment.

Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses.

Under whose leadership is this all happening now? Such restrictions on our freedoms weren't an issue in past when we had an adult (of either party) in the White House.

You've answered the burning question in your first sentence. ( Under whose leadership is this all happening now?) Trump is considered such a massive threat to a global status quo that an all-or-nothing strategy is employed to take him out.
 
Why did You Tube censor those California doctors? What happened to free speech? Is free speech dangerous? Do the American people have a right to hear all sides? Or are all sides too inclusive of dangerous thinking?
JewTube makes their own rules. Just opt out.
LBRY is a free and no Nazi video host
Joogle is no longer necessary. Brave browser with fuckfuckno is a better option for searches anyways.OTOH you probably run Wndoze or sMac so you're screwed anyway ?
 
Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses.

Under whose leadership is this all happening now? Such restrictions on our freedoms weren't an issue in past when we had an adult (of either party) in the White House.

You've answered the burning question in your first sentence. ( Under whose leadership is this all happening now?) Trump is considered such a massive threat to a global status quo that an all-or-nothing strategy is employed to take him out.

Trump abdicated leadership role to the governors, half of which are Republicans. I take it they too are in on this plot.
 
Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses.

Under whose leadership is this all happening now? Such restrictions on our freedoms weren't an issue in past when we had an adult (of either party) in the White House.

You've answered the burning question in your first sentence. ( Under whose leadership is this all happening now?) Trump is considered such a massive threat to a global status quo that an all-or-nothing strategy is employed to take him out.

Trump abdicated leadership role to the governors, half of which are Republicans. I take it they too are in on this plot.

Some governors are mining the gold of federal bailouts to save their states from bankruptcy. Others are taking a cautious approach to reopening their economies and some are using draconian/authoritarian measures to grab power. Trump is not abdicating, he is delegating as he should. If he were to enforce a federal order to the states you would accuse him of acting as king.
 
If there is a Deep State operating and it is working to assist China in destroying America, little do they know they will not be in that role long if the Communists take charge.
Democrats hate Trump. The Deep State hates Trump. China hates Trump. Hmm, maybe all of them worked together to unleash this disease to damage Trump's great economy.

most voters didn’t vote for the blob. America hates Trump as well.
 
If there is a Deep State operating and it is working to assist China in destroying America, little do they know they will not be in that role long if the Communists take charge.
Democrats hate Trump. The Deep State hates Trump. China hates Trump. Hmm, maybe all of them worked together to unleash this disease to damage Trump's great economy.

most voters didn’t vote for the blob. America hates Trump as well.

If you're going to be freed from slavery you must follow the guy that leads you out. Trump is a lot more like Moses than Jesus. Do you think all the freed slaves loved and worshipped Moses? Not likely, but they stuck with him because going back was a worse option.
 
Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses.

Under whose leadership is this all happening now? Such restrictions on our freedoms weren't an issue in past when we had an adult (of either party) in the White House.

You've answered the burning question in your first sentence. ( Under whose leadership is this all happening now?) Trump is considered such a massive threat to a global status quo that an all-or-nothing strategy is employed to take him out.

Trump abdicated leadership role to the governors, half of which are Republicans. I take it they too are in on this plot.

Some governors are mining the gold of federal bailouts to save their states from bankruptcy. Others are taking a cautious approach to reopening their economies and some are using draconian/authoritarian measures to grab power. Trump is not abdicating, he is delegating as he should. If he were to enforce a federal order to the states you would accuse him of acting as king.

a lot of posters on this board have no idea what the concept of federalism is about. Or Constitutional principals for that matter too....
 
If there is a Deep State operating and it is working to assist China in destroying America, little do they know they will not be in that role long if the Communists take charge.
Democrats hate Trump. The Deep State hates Trump. China hates Trump. Hmm, maybe all of them worked together to unleash this disease to damage Trump's great economy.

most voters didn’t vote for the blob. America hates Trump as well.

If you're going to be freed from slavery you must follow the guy that leads you out. Trump is a lot more like Moses than Jesus. Do you think all the freed slaves loved and worshipped Moses? Not likely, but they stuck with him because going back was a worse option.

Doubt the blob knows who Moses was; much less what he did.

Comparing your blob to Moses may be the dumbest thing written . Ever.
 
Why did You Tube censor those California doctors? What happened to free speech? Is free speech dangerous? Do the American people have a right to hear all sides? Or are all sides too inclusive of dangerous thinking?


Just maybe this had something to do with you tube decision:


ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation
Joint Statement issued on April 27, 2020:
The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.

Additional Information
While ACEP believes strongly that practicing emergency physicians have valuable insight into the COVID-19 pandemic, specialists in Immunology, Infectious Disease, and Epidemiology, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, are the most qualified at interpreting this data and making representations.
The data cited by Drs. Erickson and Massihi is extrapolated from a small population to the state of California, resulting in misleading conclusions regarding the mortality of COVID-19. Their data is flawed and represents selection bias. In order for data to be extrapolated to a population, the investigator must assure that the populations are homogeneous, and in this case they are not.
For example, it is stated in the video that in one area of California, there is a 12 percent positive test rate. That is then erroneously used to conclude that there are almost 4.7 million cases in the entire state of California. But that framing only looks at the 12 percent of people who had access to a test. California is a large, diverse state, and it is unlikely that any one area will be representative of the state at large. As testing nationally is limited, there likely is a larger pool of people who have yet to receive a test but have a high probability of having the disease or who are asymptomatic and potentially contagious. What we do know is that the number of cases in most states is growing. The same extrapolation was used in his New York example, when again, the only people tested were those who were symptomatic. Because of the limited availability of testing and the as yet unknown sensitivity and specificity of the various tests, we cannot use this data to extrapolate to larger populations.
The speaker discusses the fatality rate in New York and states that there are 19,000 deaths out of 19 million people in New York, so New York has a fatality rate of 0.1 percent. However, he is concluding a fatality rate based on the total population—both symptomatic and healthy, which is a contradiction to how he calculated the fatality rate in California. Further there are a large number of patients who have yet to recover, and many of them whom remain on life support or are likely to die.
Another concerning misuse of data include comparisons to the flu despite different methodology for calculating deaths. Comparing flu deaths and COVID-19 deaths are apples and oranges until the same methodology of calculating flu deaths is applied to COVID-19 deaths. Additionally, final flu data is calculated after the season is over. The physician in the video is comparing two months of COVID-19 data, which again at this point is incomplete. It is not scientifically valid to make a comparison to the completed six-month flu season.
There are other faulty data issues in their video, including basic scientific errors that call the conclusions into question (e.g., they call the flu and COVID-19 “DNA” viruses when COVID-19 and flu are both RNA viruses).
Most concerning for ACEP, they used their “emergency physician” titles to provide credence to their opinions. In any statement that proports to be based on science, data need to be carefully analyzed and the conclusions limited by the data source and integrity. By presenting themselves as authorities, and without fully disclosing their conflict of interest, they were misleading the public.
This is not to say that individuals should not have their own opinions, or that their opinions will not turn out to be true. Emergency physicians should speak those opinions in controversies such as this. However, in doing so, we must be careful not to overstate our qualifications, particularly when we are in domains outside of medicine. As emergency physicians, we should be all too familiar with other specialties and providers who feel qualified to practice in our domain without our level of education. Opinions vary on one’s experience; emergency physicians in New York City are likely to feel differently.
ACEP feels strongly the traction and popularity of these dangerous conclusions had the potential to lead to bad policy decisions and public health outcomes.

BTW those two clowns were not really er physicians they own one or a few urgent care center's that are losing money due to lack of patients.
 
Why did You Tube censor those California doctors? What happened to free speech? Is free speech dangerous? Do the American people have a right to hear all sides? Or are all sides too inclusive of dangerous thinking?


Just maybe this had something to do with you tube decision:


ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation
Joint Statement issued on April 27, 2020:
The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

COVID-19 misinformation is widespread and dangerous. Members of ACEP and AAEM are first-hand witnesses to the human toll that COVID-19 is taking on our communities. ACEP and AAEM strongly advise against using any statements of Drs. Erickson and Massihi as a basis for policy and decision making.

Additional Information
While ACEP believes strongly that practicing emergency physicians have valuable insight into the COVID-19 pandemic, specialists in Immunology, Infectious Disease, and Epidemiology, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, are the most qualified at interpreting this data and making representations.
The data cited by Drs. Erickson and Massihi is extrapolated from a small population to the state of California, resulting in misleading conclusions regarding the mortality of COVID-19. Their data is flawed and represents selection bias. In order for data to be extrapolated to a population, the investigator must assure that the populations are homogeneous, and in this case they are not.
For example, it is stated in the video that in one area of California, there is a 12 percent positive test rate. That is then erroneously used to conclude that there are almost 4.7 million cases in the entire state of California. But that framing only looks at the 12 percent of people who had access to a test. California is a large, diverse state, and it is unlikely that any one area will be representative of the state at large. As testing nationally is limited, there likely is a larger pool of people who have yet to receive a test but have a high probability of having the disease or who are asymptomatic and potentially contagious. What we do know is that the number of cases in most states is growing. The same extrapolation was used in his New York example, when again, the only people tested were those who were symptomatic. Because of the limited availability of testing and the as yet unknown sensitivity and specificity of the various tests, we cannot use this data to extrapolate to larger populations.
The speaker discusses the fatality rate in New York and states that there are 19,000 deaths out of 19 million people in New York, so New York has a fatality rate of 0.1 percent. However, he is concluding a fatality rate based on the total population—both symptomatic and healthy, which is a contradiction to how he calculated the fatality rate in California. Further there are a large number of patients who have yet to recover, and many of them whom remain on life support or are likely to die.
Another concerning misuse of data include comparisons to the flu despite different methodology for calculating deaths. Comparing flu deaths and COVID-19 deaths are apples and oranges until the same methodology of calculating flu deaths is applied to COVID-19 deaths. Additionally, final flu data is calculated after the season is over. The physician in the video is comparing two months of COVID-19 data, which again at this point is incomplete. It is not scientifically valid to make a comparison to the completed six-month flu season.
There are other faulty data issues in their video, including basic scientific errors that call the conclusions into question (e.g., they call the flu and COVID-19 “DNA” viruses when COVID-19 and flu are both RNA viruses).
Most concerning for ACEP, they used their “emergency physician” titles to provide credence to their opinions. In any statement that proports to be based on science, data need to be carefully analyzed and the conclusions limited by the data source and integrity. By presenting themselves as authorities, and without fully disclosing their conflict of interest, they were misleading the public.
This is not to say that individuals should not have their own opinions, or that their opinions will not turn out to be true. Emergency physicians should speak those opinions in controversies such as this. However, in doing so, we must be careful not to overstate our qualifications, particularly when we are in domains outside of medicine. As emergency physicians, we should be all too familiar with other specialties and providers who feel qualified to practice in our domain without our level of education. Opinions vary on one’s experience; emergency physicians in New York City are likely to feel differently.
ACEP feels strongly the traction and popularity of these dangerous conclusions had the potential to lead to bad policy decisions and public health outcomes.

BTW those two clowns were not really er physicians they own one or a few urgent care center's that are losing money due to lack of patients.

Your link is like one of those fact checking sites that are supposed to be unassailable bastions of truth but are really just propaganda. The medical status quo first said there were no concerns about the virus to the US. Then they said not to wear masks. Then they said to go about your business as usual and gather in crowds.

Now they are saying the exact opposite of what they said first. They looked bad and they still look bad. They have no more idea of what to do now then they did then. And we should listen to them why?
 
Another day, another lie from the Orange Messiah.

Intelligence officials and disease experts are shooting down Trump's claim that the US has good reason to believe the coronavirus originated in a Wuhan lab
 
If he were to enforce a federal order to the states you would accuse him of acting as king.

Not at all, I don't expect presidents to have all the answers. I only expect them to not make the situation worse. From the start it seemed to me that Trump was concerned about two things, getting personal attention and downplaying the situation to prop up Wall Street (as he uses the market as a measuring stick for his presidency). The play between Trump and CDC is like watching a good cop / bad cop routine, or to stick with the words I've been using here on the boards, playing both ends against the middle. I see his handling as counter-productive, and the lack of leadership skills as reason for the media filling that void with many citizens. Not some global conspiracy.
 
So we're all 1st Amd advocates in this lockdown now?

Where were you folks when this went down>>>

nfl-kneel-4.jpg


~S~

How many of those rich citizens have been thrown in jail or disappeared? Do you have any understanding of China at all?

do you have any sense of false equivalencies like China being bullsh*t Ray?

hey, how 'bout comparing us to Venezuela while your livin' it up on those Trump $$$'s while you're at it

and while your at it, show me another country that's locked the god fearin' law abiding work force down, while allowing the prisoners back on the streets Ray

you want freedom

and you look to Trump

how's that workin' out Ray?

oh ???it's Not his fault, it's not what he said, he didn't know what he was signing. ...ect etc until i could fuckin' puke

meadowmuffins!

~S~
 
i wouldn't call the chinese terrorists, but these folks are definitely troublemakers who keep making some boneheaded decisions, my friends
 
Right headedness should be a single word, but it is not at this time. By the time millennials reach my age,73, it almost certainly will be. We do have a similar two-word description of that definition today, political correctness.

Being older, I remember an ancient song from a psychedelic rock band called the Strawberry Alarm Clock in 1967. The song, Incents and Peppermints, was a spoof on the practice of disguising one’s breath so police could not detect marijuana. There was an interesting stanza in that song: “To divide this cockeyed world in two, throw your pride to one side, it's the least you can do. Beatniks and politics, nothing is new. A yardstick for lunatics, one point of view”. It aptly describes our current political, academic and economic compass.

The founding of our nation and the importance of the First Amendment runs counter to today’s right headedness so increasingly modern mass communication is in the process of condemning points of view that do not toe the line of a totalitarian status quo. The Chinese Marxist-Leninists have no First Amendment, but they do have a lot of wealth to buy American politicians and college professors.

You may have noticed that in the midst of a national crisis where businesses and industries are shuttered and job loss is rampant, governors across the nation have designated liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries as essential in an emergency. This is done not just to make the people stupid, but to keep them that way so they will not ask problematic questions like why did we give the Chinese control of our economic engine and all of the essential drugs we need to keep breathing?

Many in this country will smoke their marijuana and drink their liquor while the treacherous US deep state runs an incompetent, senile Joe Biden who will appoint the loser in the last election, Hillary Clinton, as his vice president. The plan is to supplant a feeble leader with the next-in-line. The overthrow of the last election is the goal and the Chinese have their eyes on the prize of a compliant traitor to the First Amendment in the White House.

You tube has already silenced two doctors in California asking “dangerous” questions about the real strategy behind America’s lockdown of healthy people. It’s the old Chinese Hong Kong tactic right here at home. Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses. The actual plague is on the first Amendment.
You can thank American corporations for giving China(a communist nation) our wealth for their profits..Corporations also gave them out jobs, yes these so called Americans undermined the economy all thanks to politicians yet you people have the unmitigated gaul to try and blame just one party..and then you support the other one....Like chopping off yer nose to spite yer face you people are being led by the nose and yous like it. That is what is disgusting.
 
Moonflow, Tiny Tony "The Power Drunk Fraud" Fauci gave the Chinese lab responsible $4,000,000 taxpayer dollars not long ago. Explain that. :p

...specialists in Immunology, Infectious Disease, and Epidemiology, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, are the most qualified at interpreting this data and making representations...

LMFAO! :auiqs.jpg: Wow, just wow. :laughing0301:
 
Right headedness should be a single word, but it is not at this time. By the time millennials reach my age,73, it almost certainly will be. We do have a similar two-word description of that definition today, political correctness.

Being older, I remember an ancient song from a psychedelic rock band called the Strawberry Alarm Clock in 1967. The song, Incents and Peppermints, was a spoof on the practice of disguising one’s breath so police could not detect marijuana. There was an interesting stanza in that song: “To divide this cockeyed world in two, throw your pride to one side, it's the least you can do. Beatniks and politics, nothing is new. A yardstick for lunatics, one point of view”. It aptly describes our current political, academic and economic compass.

The founding of our nation and the importance of the First Amendment runs counter to today’s right headedness so increasingly modern mass communication is in the process of condemning points of view that do not toe the line of a totalitarian status quo. The Chinese Marxist-Leninists have no First Amendment, but they do have a lot of wealth to buy American politicians and college professors.

You may have noticed that in the midst of a national crisis where businesses and industries are shuttered and job loss is rampant, governors across the nation have designated liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries as essential in an emergency. This is done not just to make the people stupid, but to keep them that way so they will not ask problematic questions like why did we give the Chinese control of our economic engine and all of the essential drugs we need to keep breathing?

Many in this country will smoke their marijuana and drink their liquor while the treacherous US deep state runs an incompetent, senile Joe Biden who will appoint the loser in the last election, Hillary Clinton, as his vice president. The plan is to supplant a feeble leader with the next-in-line. The overthrow of the last election is the goal and the Chinese have their eyes on the prize of a compliant traitor to the First Amendment in the White House.

You tube has already silenced two doctors in California asking “dangerous” questions about the real strategy behind America’s lockdown of healthy people. It’s the old Chinese Hong Kong tactic right here at home. Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses. The actual plague is on the first Amendment.
You can thank American corporations for giving China(a communist nation) our wealth for their profits..Corporations also gave them out jobs, yes these so called Americans undermined the economy all thanks to politicians yet you people have the unmitigated gaul to try and blame just one party..and then you support the other one....Like chopping off yer nose to spite yer face you people are being led by the nose and yous like it. That is what is disgusting.

Right headedness should be a single word, but it is not at this time. By the time millennials reach my age,73, it almost certainly will be. We do have a similar two-word description of that definition today, political correctness.

Being older, I remember an ancient song from a psychedelic rock band called the Strawberry Alarm Clock in 1967. The song, Incents and Peppermints, was a spoof on the practice of disguising one’s breath so police could not detect marijuana. There was an interesting stanza in that song: “To divide this cockeyed world in two, throw your pride to one side, it's the least you can do. Beatniks and politics, nothing is new. A yardstick for lunatics, one point of view”. It aptly describes our current political, academic and economic compass.

The founding of our nation and the importance of the First Amendment runs counter to today’s right headedness so increasingly modern mass communication is in the process of condemning points of view that do not toe the line of a totalitarian status quo. The Chinese Marxist-Leninists have no First Amendment, but they do have a lot of wealth to buy American politicians and college professors.

You may have noticed that in the midst of a national crisis where businesses and industries are shuttered and job loss is rampant, governors across the nation have designated liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries as essential in an emergency. This is done not just to make the people stupid, but to keep them that way so they will not ask problematic questions like why did we give the Chinese control of our economic engine and all of the essential drugs we need to keep breathing?

Many in this country will smoke their marijuana and drink their liquor while the treacherous US deep state runs an incompetent, senile Joe Biden who will appoint the loser in the last election, Hillary Clinton, as his vice president. The plan is to supplant a feeble leader with the next-in-line. The overthrow of the last election is the goal and the Chinese have their eyes on the prize of a compliant traitor to the First Amendment in the White House.

You tube has already silenced two doctors in California asking “dangerous” questions about the real strategy behind America’s lockdown of healthy people. It’s the old Chinese Hong Kong tactic right here at home. Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses. The actual plague is on the first Amendment.
You can thank American corporations for giving China(a communist nation) our wealth for their profits..Corporations also gave them out jobs, yes these so called Americans undermined the economy all thanks to politicians yet you people have the unmitigated gaul to try and blame just one party..and then you support the other one....Like chopping off yer nose to spite yer face you people are being led by the nose and yous like it. That is what is disgusting.

Please don't jump to conclusions. Just because the op sees Trump's loss as a victory for the Chinese, it does not apologize for the Republican Party. That party is no friend of Trump nor is it in any way superior in the respect that it has any kind of moral high ground in the great selling out of American Exceptionalism.

The republicans jumped on the same gravy train as the democrats leaving us stranded as riders not engineers. When Trump became a republican he did so not to take part but to take over. He could have run as an Independent but that would have made him just a spoiler like Bernie Sanders.

Trump is turning the Republican Party into blue collar juggernaut and this makes the old guard in both parties nervous.
 
Trump is turning the Republican Party into blue collar juggernaut

A man that has never so much as gotten his hands dirty in his entire life is not representative of us Blues Ray

and yes, in my world there are blues, and whites , along with generation of divides, disparity, and subjugation

if only sorts like you and IM2 could get your head around that, we might actually gain a leader in this country

~S~
 
Right headedness should be a single word, but it is not at this time. By the time millennials reach my age,73, it almost certainly will be. We do have a similar two-word description of that definition today, political correctness.

Being older, I remember an ancient song from a psychedelic rock band called the Strawberry Alarm Clock in 1967. The song, Incents and Peppermints, was a spoof on the practice of disguising one’s breath so police could not detect marijuana. There was an interesting stanza in that song: “To divide this cockeyed world in two, throw your pride to one side, it's the least you can do. Beatniks and politics, nothing is new. A yardstick for lunatics, one point of view”. It aptly describes our current political, academic and economic compass.

The founding of our nation and the importance of the First Amendment runs counter to today’s right headedness so increasingly modern mass communication is in the process of condemning points of view that do not toe the line of a totalitarian status quo. The Chinese Marxist-Leninists have no First Amendment, but they do have a lot of wealth to buy American politicians and college professors.

You may have noticed that in the midst of a national crisis where businesses and industries are shuttered and job loss is rampant, governors across the nation have designated liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries as essential in an emergency. This is done not just to make the people stupid, but to keep them that way so they will not ask problematic questions like why did we give the Chinese control of our economic engine and all of the essential drugs we need to keep breathing?

Many in this country will smoke their marijuana and drink their liquor while the treacherous US deep state runs an incompetent, senile Joe Biden who will appoint the loser in the last election, Hillary Clinton, as his vice president. The plan is to supplant a feeble leader with the next-in-line. The overthrow of the last election is the goal and the Chinese have their eyes on the prize of a compliant traitor to the First Amendment in the White House.

You tube has already silenced two doctors in California asking “dangerous” questions about the real strategy behind America’s lockdown of healthy people. It’s the old Chinese Hong Kong tactic right here at home. Pick out a Chinese name for yourself if Trump loses. The actual plague is on the first Amendment.
/——/ I remember that song, Strawberry Slarm Clock and I liked it, but I never paid attention to the lyrics. I had no idea what it meant.
 

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