The Common Denominator: Islam

[NYcarbineer]

aaaaaaaand right back to the "terrorism as golf game" canard.

The question above was about religious motivations. Not volume discounts.

I haven't posted about "Islam". I've posted about bad logic and hair-on-fire media.
Try to keep up.

You are defending Islam from what you perceive as an attack by the op, you've stated your opinion of this thread many times, attacked the op of the thread for her views. Otherwise, why are you even here? Silly question, I know, you always show up to bloviate, and are typically a waste of time to even converse with.

This thread is an attack on all of Islam. It is the same worn out attack we've been hearing for years from the haters,

that Islam by it's alleged nature is fundamentally and irreparably unacceptable.

That is a very distinct and separate argument from the arguments that say some people's interpretations of their religion are unacceptable.

The attack of this thread is to blame the religion itself, not the bad people who claim to be of that religion.

"Haters" like the NYTimes?

1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” Know Thy Enemy National Review Online

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp

c. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.

That jibberish is useful if there's a need to fill a blank page with jibberish.

Are you Christian? Why don't you turn the other cheek to these terrorists, as your book instructs you?

It was a given that you'd have no intelligent response to the post.

I just felt like proving it.

Your post received the response that it deserved.

Koreans are notorious for being one of the most racist peoples on this earth.

Is it a legitimate generalization if I tar you with that brush?

 

[NYcarbineer]

supporting and committing are not the same thing. You lied once again.

That makes no sense. What percent of all the Muslims on earth have committed an act of terror?

its makes complete sense. 15% do it but 75-80% support it. The 10% who condemn it generally don't live very long.

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

It appears to be taking Redfish awhile to compile that list.

the actual beheaders and suicide bombers are obviously a small number. the suicide bombers are dead. One does not have to actually do the act in order to be part of it. Did Hitler personally turn the gas valves? Did every member of the SS turn them? The members of groups like ISIS, Al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah etc represent a significant number of muslims, those who support those groups financially or philosophically are a much larger number. 300 million? maybe, maybe more.

Let's deal with these issues in order.

Will you now admit that you were outrageously, comically, full of shit when you claimed that 300 million Muslims have committed acts of terror?

 

[PoliticalChic]

You are defending Islam from what you perceive as an attack by the op, you've stated your opinion of this thread many times, attacked the op of the thread for her views. Otherwise, why are you even here? Silly question, I know, you always show up to bloviate, and are typically a waste of time to even converse with.

This thread is an attack on all of Islam. It is the same worn out attack we've been hearing for years from the haters,

that Islam by it's alleged nature is fundamentally and irreparably unacceptable.

That is a very distinct and separate argument from the arguments that say some people's interpretations of their religion are unacceptable.

The attack of this thread is to blame the religion itself, not the bad people who claim to be of that religion.

"Haters" like the NYTimes?

1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” Know Thy Enemy National Review Online

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp

c. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.

That jibberish is useful if there's a need to fill a blank page with jibberish.

Are you Christian? Why don't you turn the other cheek to these terrorists, as your book instructs you?

It was a given that you'd have no intelligent response to the post.

I just felt like proving it.

Your post received the response that it deserved.

Koreans are notorious for being one of the most racist peoples on this earth.

Is it a legitimate generalization if I tar you with that brush?

You have only two modes: either you lie, or you change the subject.

You began the day lying.....and now.....changing the subject.

 

[Uncensored2008]

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

Comrade, if you are of the faction of democrats that does not deny the Holocaust, small as that faction is...

What is the percentage of Nazis involved in the Holocaust according to Historian William Shirer?

1. 99%
2. 90%
3. 50%
4. 25%
5. 10%
6. Less than 1%

The correct answer is 6 - less than 1% - still we do not celebrate Nazism as the ism of peace, nor excuse the atrocities committed by them. Very few Nazi engaged in these acts - yet we were not so stupid as to justify the Reich as being betrayed by a "radical minority." We were sane back then, and recognized that creeds of evil will always be led by a tiny cadre willing to engage in horrific acts, while the masses stand silent.

So it is with Islam. A tiny fraction engage in the horrors proscribed by Muhammad and the Caliphs, while the majority offer silent approval and support. Islam is evil, just as Nazism is evil. And just as most Nazis did not act out on that evil, most Muslims do not act out on evil. This in no way changes the FACT that Islam is completely evil and an enemy to free people and civilization.

 

[NYcarbineer]

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

Comrade, if you are of the faction of democrats that does not deny the Holocaust, small as that faction is...

What is the percentage of Nazis involved in the Holocaust according to Historian William Shirer?

1. 99%
2. 90%
3. 50%
4. 25%
5. 10%
6. Less than 1%

The correct answer is 6 - less than 1% - still we do not celebrate Nazism as the ism of peace, nor excuse the atrocities committed by them. Very few Nazi engaged in these acts - yet we were not so stupid as to justify the Reich as being betrayed by a "radical minority." We were sane back then, and recognized that creeds of evil will always be led by a tiny cadre willing to engage in horrific acts, while the masses stand silent.

So it is with Islam. A tiny fraction engage in the horrors proscribed by Muhammad and the Caliphs, while the majority offer silent approval and support. Islam is evil, just as Nazism is evil. And just as most Nazis did not act out on that evil, most Muslims do not act out on evil. This in no way changes the FACT that Islam is completely evil and an enemy to free people and civilization.

Let me ask you a simple question.

If every Muslim on the planet except ONE had committed an act of terror worthy of punishment as a capital crime,

could we execute that last one, the innocent one, just on some sort of 'principle'?

 

[Pogo]

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

Comrade, if you are of the faction of democrats that does not deny the Holocaust, small as that faction is...

What is the percentage of Nazis involved in the Holocaust according to Historian William Shirer?

1. 99%
2. 90%
3. 50%
4. 25%
5. 10%
6. Less than 1%

The correct answer is 6 - less than 1% - still we do not celebrate Nazism as the ism of peace, nor excuse the atrocities committed by them. Very few Nazi engaged in these acts - yet we were not so stupid as to justify the Reich as being betrayed by a "radical minority." We were sane back then, and recognized that creeds of evil will always be led by a tiny cadre willing to engage in horrific acts, while the masses stand silent.

So it is with Islam. A tiny fraction engage in the horrors proscribed by Muhammad and the Caliphs, while the majority offer silent approval and support. Islam is evil, just as Nazism is evil. And just as most Nazis did not act out on that evil, most Muslims do not act out on evil. This in no way changes the FACT that Islam is completely evil and an enemy to free people and civilization.

No, I'm afraid that's not a "FACT", even in lower case. That's what we call an "opinion". And a particularly fallacious one.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread is an attack on all of Islam. It is the same worn out attack we've been hearing for years from the haters,

that Islam by it's alleged nature is fundamentally and irreparably unacceptable.

That is a very distinct and separate argument from the arguments that say some people's interpretations of their religion are unacceptable.

The attack of this thread is to blame the religion itself, not the bad people who claim to be of that religion.

"Haters" like the NYTimes?

1. “We should by now have become used to the death cult that is thriving at the fringes of the Muslim world. This is the cult of people who are proud to declare, "You love life, but we love death." This is the cult that sent waves of defenseless children to be mowed down on the battlefields of the Iran-Iraq war, that trains kindergartners to become bombs, that fetishizes death, that sends people off joyfully to commit mass murder. Because the death cult is not really about the cause it purports to serve. It's about the sheer pleasure of killing and dying.” http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/07/opinion/07brooks.html

a. It is the blood that informs the act. In the 1971 assassination of Jordan’s prime minister, Wasfi l-Tell, by PLO terrorists. “As he lay there, one of his killers bent over and lapped the blood that poured from his wounds.” Know Thy Enemy National Review Online

b. Leading Muslim clerics often refer to the love of death. Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri stated, "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom.” http://old.nationalreview.com/comment/stalinsky200405240846.asp

c. And so, the ideals and idea of America, and the iconic message of the Declaration of Independence, ‘life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,’ is anathema to Islamism, just as it was to fascism and communism, and every totalitarian philosophy.

That jibberish is useful if there's a need to fill a blank page with jibberish.

Are you Christian? Why don't you turn the other cheek to these terrorists, as your book instructs you?

It was a given that you'd have no intelligent response to the post.

I just felt like proving it.

Your post received the response that it deserved.

Koreans are notorious for being one of the most racist peoples on this earth.

Is it a legitimate generalization if I tar you with that brush?

You have only two modes: either you lie, or you change the subject.

You began the day lying.....and now.....changing the subject.

The subject is condemning the innocent for the crimes of the guilty.

I repeat the question:

Koreans are notorious for being one of the most racist peoples on this earth.

Is it a legitimate generalization if I tar you with that brush?

Now you have your second (of many) chances to refuse to answer the question.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Has it occurred to any of you neocon types that are also anti-Islam bigots that no matter we do militarily in the ME, the regimes that we ultimately leave in power,

even if we have installed them,

are going to be Muslim?

 

[PoliticalChic]

As hard as it is to believe, the President of the United States.....the very same one who owned last year's "Lie of the Year," ( 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor....')...yeah, that one....
...unveiled his latest attempt at reprising his award winning performance.

This one:
Obama says the Islamic State 'is not Islamic.'

And there are dopes right here on the board....swearing for the liar.


Now this, from "Foreign Policy:"

"IS claims to be a religious organization, dedicated to re-establishing the caliphate and enforcing codes of modesty and behavior from the time of Muhammad and his followers. But this is rape, not religious conservatism. IS may dress up its sexual violence in religious justifications, saying its victims violated Islamic law, or were infidels, but their leaders are not fools. This is just another form of warfare."
The Islamic State of Sexual Violence


And this was quite a dispositive comment below the article:
"The Islamic State's first acts involved imposing Islamic law, setting up Islamic courts, establishing Islamic morality police and enforcing Islamic purdah on women in the area (I.e., gender apartheid, forced veiling and restrictions on leaving the house without a male relative). These aren't secondary objectives . . . These are PRIMARY objectives for members of ISIS, because the establishment of Islamic law is their primary goal. By the same token, the sexual enslavement of non-muslim women in the course of jihad was one of the central "perks' of adopting islam and fighting jihad to establish Islam in Mohammad's time.

Let's hear from those dunces again....how they're not Islamic.

Double dog dare ya.'

 

[Redfish]

That makes no sense. What percent of all the Muslims on earth have committed an act of terror?

its makes complete sense. 15% do it but 75-80% support it. The 10% who condemn it generally don't live very long.

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

It appears to be taking Redfish awhile to compile that list.

the actual beheaders and suicide bombers are obviously a small number. the suicide bombers are dead. One does not have to actually do the act in order to be part of it. Did Hitler personally turn the gas valves? Did every member of the SS turn them? The members of groups like ISIS, Al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah etc represent a significant number of muslims, those who support those groups financially or philosophically are a much larger number. 300 million? maybe, maybe more.

Let's deal with these issues in order.

Will you now admit that you were outrageously, comically, full of shit when you claimed that 300 million Muslims have committed acts of terror?

that was your claim not mine. I am not responsible when you misinterpret or spin something I post.

polls of muslims in many muslim countries show that a large majority of muslims support jihad against the west, jews, Christians, and all non-muslims. That support is the direct result of the doctrine contained in the Koran and repeated by the mullahs.

 

[Redfish]

Has it occurred to any of you neocon types that are also anti-Islam bigots that no matter we do militarily in the ME, the regimes that we ultimately leave in power,

even if we have installed them,

are going to be Muslim?

yes, of course. whats your point?

 

[Newby]

How many Christians in this thread love their enemies and are willing to turn the other cheek?

So far I see the count is ZERO.

That means that either there are no Christians posting in this thread, or, there are Christians here who don't feel compelled to obey the teachings of their Lord and Saviour.

How is that possible?

How is it possible that Christians can ignore the Book and still be Christians, and yet,

Muslims, we are told, are bound in some way to be literal unequivocal followers of every word of the Koran?

Here's an idea, how about you people let some Muslims be Muslims the way you allow yourself to be a Christian, if that is what they choose?

So you condone that if they choose to murder in the name of their religion, then they should be allowed to do so? We should just ignore the whole thing?

You've never answered if Sharia Courts should be allowed in the US, so that we don't restrict muslims from practicing their 'religion' in its entirety, since it also happens to be a political state as well? Why is that?

 

[Newby]

How many Christians in this thread love their enemies and are willing to turn the other cheek?

So far I see the count is ZERO.

That means that either there are no Christians posting in this thread, or, there are Christians here who don't feel compelled to obey the teachings of their Lord and Saviour.

How is that possible?

How is it possible that Christians can ignore the Book and still be Christians, and yet,

Muslims, we are told, are bound in some way to be literal unequivocal followers of every word of the Koran?

Here's an idea, how about you people let some Muslims be Muslims the way you allow yourself to be a Christian, if that is what they choose?

And here you go folks, what this is really all about, see how easily NYC can question, comdemn, and critisize those of the christian faith, while defending muslims to practice their religion any way they please, even if it means murder. Insanity.

 

[Newby]

Failing to recognize the nature of the wooden horse is what did the Trojans in.

It will be up to the people of this country to determine what sort of middle-ground might be appropriate in the case of this newcomer threat-vector.

You've already stated your position. You want to redefine Islam as something other than a religion so we can get around any Consitutional impediments to persecuting all Muslims.

I want to redefine Islam as something other than a religion so we can get around any Constitutional impediments to monitoring and penetrating and censuring Islamic organizations which might prove necessary or appropriate to the safety and well-being of the country and its non-Muslim citizenry as Radical Islam grows in scope and momentum overseas and poses an increasing threat to us. Persecution is something quite different from that and is called Dhimmitude in some parts of the world.

Nice try at putting words into somebody else's mouth, though. Not. Epic fail, actually.

So you wouldn't want to prevent mosques being built in the US, such as the so-called ground zero mosque?

Never said anything about that one way or another.

That wasn't the question. Do you support the right of Muslims to build mosques in America? Or are they the Trojan horses you were referring to?

Do you support the right of muslims to have Sharia courts in America so they can wholly practice their religion?

 

[Newby]

how many years do you think the islam has existed? muslims claim forever. I said 4000 years, it may be 7000 or 5000, what difference does it make? their history, however long it is, is nothing but war, murder, rape, stoning, pedifilia, and perversion------------------In'ch allah. (if allah wills it)

It "matters" in that it's one more manifestation of the scale of your profound ignorance. Like that 100% of terrorists thing.

The fact that you learned to transliterate inshallah with a French accent obviously wasn't the whole story.

100% of the recent terrorists are muslim. That is a fact.

No, that is complete fabrication. I gave you not one, not two but three different studies that completely obliterate that stupid mass generalization bullshit. I invited you to counter with numbers that prove your "100%" malarkey.

Your response is to adopt the fetal position and go

Now maybe it's a play-fact in the bullshit Pamela Hoft sites you go to looking for evidence of a predetermined conclusion. But not on planet earth.

Islam calls for the violent destruction of all non-believers. That is also a fact. All muslims are not terrorists. That is also a fact.

Odd then that I've worked and lived among Muslims for some 35 years and not a single one has tried to "destroy" me, violently or otherwise. Not one has ever tried to convert me. Not one even brought the topic up unless it was a natural part of the conversation.

It's almost like they were..... people, yanno? Weird. So I look forward to your links demonstrating they're not.

if they are not muslims, what are they? buddists, shintos, druids, mormons, atheists, wickens,
methodists?


I worked in the middle east for 15 years, Bahrain, UAE, Kuwait. I have good friends who are muslims. that does not change the fact that it is muslims who are beheading, murdering, raping , and enslaving in the name of islam. Not all of them by any means. Not all Germans were part of the third reich.

What are they? They're political radicals. Just as Rudolph and Roeder and Adkisson and McVeigh and all that crowd were political radicals. The fact that they're Chirstians or Taureans or righthanded or blue-eyed isn't a causal factor. Even when they claim to do what they do in the name of Christianism. That's a crutch. Hiding behind religion always is.

Then you are a fool to completely divorce the religion that is used to indoctrinate these people from the acts they perpetrate on others. And like every other litlte naive fool that has done the same from thier safe, cushy location in the US, if you get your way, people will suffer because of it. And then you'll walk away, pointing your finger at someone or something else other than yourself and what you supported. The same insane liberal cycle that appears over and over again every where in society and politics today.

Oh, and one other question, is Islam political? yes or no

 

[Newby]

Do you enjoy looking like an idiot? You want to quote anyone in here, other than yourself, who's even suggested such a thing? I know that's what those of you on the left would love to do with christians, so it does reveal where your thoughts are when you try to ascribe them to others in a pathetic attempt to smear.

I think your character was thoroughly revealed yesterday when you lied about never having heard of anti-abortion terrorism.

The poster above said that it's the religion that's the problem, not just the extremists.

So if the religion is the problem, if the religion is the CAUSE of the terrorism, then we should have the right to destroy the religion itself,

which means destroy all of the practitioners of that religion, who are apparently as much a part of the problem as the extremists?

Is that correct?

Anti abortion terrorism? All I asked is that you show facts regarding it, numbers, dates, etc... I still have yet to see any summation. Bombing an abortion clinic or shooting an abortion doctor, both of which happened many years ago, not to mention being isolated indicents is where you are being deceitful in even trying to use such a comparison to islamic terrorism.

What do you see as the 'cause' of the terrorism? Let me guess, American foreign policy? And even if it was that, then why claim everything they do in the name of their religion?

To the extent anyone is -- and it's going way on a limb to accept the premise considering the source -- it would most likely be because organized religion provides an emotional rally flag to unite zealots in a common cause, even if said zealots hail from different countries or regions.

Why do all those abortion terrorists do what they do in the name of the religion? Why did the Klan? Same reason: a common glue to corral a mob in mass hysteria.

Same thing this very thread is doing.

Abortion terrorists? How many of those are there? Where are the quotes that they did what they did in the name of God? Where in the Christian Bible does Jesus say it's okay to murder? Aren't they going against their Christian religion? Doing the exact opposite of what is taught?

How do you know they're not doing it because they find the murder of innocent life to be morally reprehensible, regardless of what religion, if any, they follow?

Wait, whoa whoa, hold up, I missed this part on the first pass....
Did you just make the case of "when "we" do it it's justified; when "they" do it, it's not"? Indeed you did.

Well that cuts right to the freaking chase.

If you can show me where I said their actions were justified by anything, that would be a real feat. Not to mention, you changed it to 'we', not sure who 'we' is supposed to be? All you do is lie. My point, since it apparently went over your pointy little head, is that their motives can't be strictly tied to religion or religious reasons, which is the exact same thing you're saying regarding islamic terrorists. It's not their religion that causes their behavior, it's political motivation. So, I guess using your own 'logic' on your comments, that means that you're saying they are 'justified' in their behavior since it's politically motivated and not religiously motivated? Is that why you side with them, you agree with their 'politics' and what you perceive as their reasoning for their behavior? Nothing else makes sense, so guess that must be it! Pogo sees it completely as a justified political movement in retaliation for our presence in the middle east.

 

[Newby]

That makes no sense. What percent of all the Muslims on earth have committed an act of terror?

its makes complete sense. 15% do it but 75-80% support it. The 10% who condemn it generally don't live very long.

300 million Muslims have committed an act of terror?

lol, could you list those?

It appears to be taking Redfish awhile to compile that list.

the actual beheaders and suicide bombers are obviously a small number. the suicide bombers are dead. One does not have to actually do the act in order to be part of it. Did Hitler personally turn the gas valves? Did every member of the SS turn them? The members of groups like ISIS, Al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah etc represent a significant number of muslims, those who support those groups financially or philosophically are a much larger number. 300 million? maybe, maybe more.

Let's deal with these issues in order.

Will you now admit that you were outrageously, comically, full of shit when you claimed that 300 million Muslims have committed acts of terror?

Apparently you can't read, get some help for that, please. Are you capable of defending your position without being dishonest, is that why you have to lie? How can anyone respect someone who has to lie to defend his position?

Here is what he said:

The members of groups like ISIS, Al qaeda, hamas, hezbollah etc represent a significant number of muslims, those who support those groups financially or philosophically are a much larger number. 300 million

So you are obviously taking those 'who support those groups financially or philosophically' as having committed acts of terror? A bit disingenuous, or just an outright falsehood. But, that's all you ever have.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Let me ask you a simple question.

First answer the question I already posed earlier; are you a holocaust denier? I notice that a lot of democrats are now- to please your Muslim allies.

If every Muslim on the planet except ONE had committed an act of terror worthy of punishment as a capital crime,

could we execute that last one, the innocent one, just on some sort of 'principle'?

Look, i realize that you just download scripts from the hate sites. So you post shit from DailyKOS or ThinkProgress on "how to support ISIS against conservatives."

Still - IF you had a brain, you would grasp that I answered this question directly in the post you are replying to.

After we won WWII - I realize you're going to chant a mantra about how the GLORIOUS SOVIET UNION won the war while the Running Dog Capitalist Pigs did nothing - but after we Americans won WWII, did we kill every German? Did we even kill every Nazi?

Islam is evil and MUST be confronted by the decent people over the objections of you leftists. But no one is suggesting killing anyone - other than you Khmer Rouge types with your demagoguery meant to support your Muslim allies.

Islam should be treated exactly like Nazism. We don't kill Nazis in this country - but decent people shun them. Islam should be shunned by decent society as the evil it is. You have a right to practice Islam, but it DOES make you a bad person, and you should be treated as such.

 

[Uncensored2008]

No, I'm afraid that's not a "FACT", even in lower case. That's what we call an "opinion". And a particularly fallacious one.

Of course it is a FACT - and the reason you are such a die hard promoter of Islam. You see Islam as a means of getting revenge on the Christians you hate so much.

They are the enemy of your enemy, and willing to do the things you would love to do, but lack the guts.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Has it occurred to any of you neocon types that are also anti-Islam bigots that no matter we do militarily in the ME, the regimes that we ultimately leave in power,

even if we have installed them,

are going to be Muslim?

Is opposition to cutting off peoples heads on YouTube intolerance? Would you party members demand reeducation for anyone who speaks against this quaint Muslim tradition?

Hey, maybe you can do a beheading at the upcoming democratic convention, to show your solidarity with Islam?