The damaging case against James Comey

[Billy_Bob]

... so you swallowed this complex spam hook line and sinker huh ?!

Tell me what you disagree with and present your links. I would appreciate it.

Don't try to suck me into this long verbose spam thread.

I'll cut to the chase instead.

Comey's sworn testimony was credible.

Mueller now has a lot more to investigate, including Comey's documented testimony before the Senate.

DJ Trump is looking more and more like an unconstitutional tyrant committing crimes and misdemeanors left and right.

That's the long and short of it.

There is no legitimate criticism for anything Comey said or did.

The ball is now in Mueller's court.

And Trump is on thin ice.

You will be sad here soon. As it is you last best hope was borne out to be just another money grubbing politition who sold out his prescous FBI for ten million bucks. I wonder if his FBI pals still thing he is the symbol of leadership and discipline he claims. Doubt it.

A few of my FBI friends tell me Comey is a disgrace and has disgraced the Agency. They feel their integrity is now tarnished by his acts... The majority of agents do not support him and want him charged. There is a sever backlash coming for Comey.

For this reason you can bet a Special Counsel will be in charge of this investigation.

And those off the wall questions that come up now and again. I agree, something is up. May not be so good for Trump, but I'm thinking that ain't the case.

All of yosirio's fantasy's are demonstrably false. When Mueller gives his report there are going to be some very upset democrats.

 

[Timmy]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

 

[Bush92]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

 

[Billy_Bob]

Just as I posted yesterday.

“By his own account, it seems that Comey may not have followed the agency’s employee agreement, which places numerous restrictions on the use of information or documents acquired during an individual’s employment by the FBI. Paragraphs 2, 3, and 4 of the FBI employment agreement appear to cover Comey’s distribution of content he says he created on government property in his capacity as a government official. . . . o if Comey followed protocol and surrendered all government property, including the memos he produced in his capacity as an FBI employee, it would have been impossible for him to provide the memos to his friend. The fact that he was able to provide hard copies of the memos to both his friend and special counsel Robert Mueller suggests that Comey did not surrender them to authorities as required by the FBI employment agreement.”

Did James Comey's Leaks Violate The FBI Employment Agreement?

It appears you were very right. Good post.

So you know, the employee hand book is on he FBI's website.



New Employees — FBI

Bonanza Crixus! Found it! FD-291 FBI Employment Agreement — FBI

Thank you so much!

Comey has violated 1 through 7....

 

[Jackson]

Just as I posted yesterday.

“By his own account, it seems that Comey may not have followed the agency’s employee agreement, which places numerous restrictions on the use of information or documents acquired during an individual’s employment by the FBI. Paragraphs 2, 3, and 4 of the FBI employment agreement appear to cover Comey’s distribution of content he says he created on government property in his capacity as a government official. . . . o if Comey followed protocol and surrendered all government property, including the memos he produced in his capacity as an FBI employee, it would have been impossible for him to provide the memos to his friend. The fact that he was able to provide hard copies of the memos to both his friend and special counsel Robert Mueller suggests that Comey did not surrender them to authorities as required by the FBI employment agreement.”

Did James Comey's Leaks Violate The FBI Employment Agreement?

It appears you were very right. Good post.

So you know, the employee hand book is on he FBI's website.
Thank you so much! I couldn't get my computer to copy that! This makes a big difference!


New Employees — FBI

Bonanza Crixus! Found it! FD-291 FBI Employment Agreement — FBI

Thank you so much!

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Comey has violated 1 through 4....

 

[Timmy]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Really ? So if he wished comey a happy birthday he can't repeat that ?

 

[candycorn]

You can add to your list his actions with Lorreta Lynch when she ordered Comey to change the definition of investigation and terminate the investigation into the Clinton's, interfering with the investigation and changing the narrative he used from 'investigation' to "matter" making it appear there was no criminal conduct.

How does he square the order from Lynch, who actually did interfere with the investigation to the Clinton's, from the innuendo he alleged Trump did? Why did he not report it as required by law?

Then the Comey leak, leaked everything to damage Trump but hid everything that vindicated Trump.. Why?

Comey is a partisan hack and a snake... His behaviors prove it beyond all doubt.

He is coming off as "ethically challenged...", that is for sure. Actually, I feel sorry for him. He was fired in a rude way and after losing his job, his ego gets in the way and does the unthinkable for an FBI Director, leaks privileged information. Where was hios head?

He thinks he has a $10,000,000 book deal. For what? Leaking more privileged material? Oy Vey!

The president didn’t claim privilege…privilege is not assumed (or at least has never been in the past); it was not privileged information.
Knowing Trump’s smarmy past, the trail of sleaze he’s left everywhere he’s gone, I can’t blame any government official that has to deal with this liar for protecting themselves.

 

[candycorn]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Incorrect.

 

[Billy_Bob]

You can add to your list his actions with Lorreta Lynch when she ordered Comey to change the definition of investigation and terminate the investigation into the Clinton's, interfering with the investigation and changing the narrative he used from 'investigation' to "matter" making it appear there was no criminal conduct.

How does he square the order from Lynch, who actually did interfere with the investigation to the Clinton's, from the innuendo he alleged Trump did? Why did he not report it as required by law?

Then the Comey leak, leaked everything to damage Trump but hid everything that vindicated Trump.. Why?

Comey is a partisan hack and a snake... His behaviors prove it beyond all doubt.

He is coming off as "ethically challenged...", that is for sure. Actually, I feel sorry for him. He was fired in a rude way and after losing his job, his ego gets in the way and does the unthinkable for an FBI Director, leaks privileged information. Where was hios head?

He thinks he has a $10,000,000 book deal. For what? Leaking more privileged material? Oy Vey!

The president didn’t claim privilege…privilege is not assumed (or at least has never been in the past); it was not privileged information.
Knowing Trump’s smarmy past, the trail of sleaze he’s left everywhere he’s gone, I can’t blame any government official that has to deal with this liar for protecting themselves.

All official meetings with the POTUS are deemed "born classified" so are Comey's contemporaneous notes made on a government computer and in relation to his official duties..

LOL.. The ignorance of our security protocols and laws is stunning..

 

[Bush92]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Really ? So if he wished comey a happy birthday he can't repeat that ?

Not if it involved official business.

 

[Bush92]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Incorrect.

See policy guidelines N W posted above.

 

[Jackson]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Really ? So if he wished comey a happy birthday he can't repeat that ?

Timmy, the president and the FBI director were discussing open cases. That is likely privileged where "Happy Birthday" certainly doesn't rise to that level. lol But nice try.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Really ? So if he wished comey a happy birthday he can't repeat that ?

LOL ignorant retard.."official duties"

 

[candycorn]

You can add to your list his actions with Lorreta Lynch when she ordered Comey to change the definition of investigation and terminate the investigation into the Clinton's, interfering with the investigation and changing the narrative he used from 'investigation' to "matter" making it appear there was no criminal conduct.

How does he square the order from Lynch, who actually did interfere with the investigation to the Clinton's, from the innuendo he alleged Trump did? Why did he not report it as required by law?

Then the Comey leak, leaked everything to damage Trump but hid everything that vindicated Trump.. Why?

Comey is a partisan hack and a snake... His behaviors prove it beyond all doubt.

He is coming off as "ethically challenged...", that is for sure. Actually, I feel sorry for him. He was fired in a rude way and after losing his job, his ego gets in the way and does the unthinkable for an FBI Director, leaks privileged information. Where was hios head?

He thinks he has a $10,000,000 book deal. For what? Leaking more privileged material? Oy Vey!

The president didn’t claim privilege…privilege is not assumed (or at least has never been in the past); it was not privileged information.
Knowing Trump’s smarmy past, the trail of sleaze he’s left everywhere he’s gone, I can’t blame any government official that has to deal with this liar for protecting themselves.

All meetings with the POTUS are deemed "born classified" so are Comey's contemporaneous notes made on a government computer and in relation to his official duties..

LOL.. The ignorance of our security protocols and laws is stunning..

Incorrect.

"A federal judge has ruled that President Clinton cannot use the power of his office to block prosecutors from questioning his senior aides, rejecting Clinton's assertion of executive privilege in the Monica S. Lewinsky investigation, lawyers familiar with the decision said yesterday.”

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

The question was settled 20 years ago when Clinton tried to maintain privilege.

 

[Crixus]

Tell me what you disagree with and present your links. I would appreciate it.

Don't try to suck me into this long verbose spam thread.

I'll cut to the chase instead.

Comey's sworn testimony was credible.

Mueller now has a lot more to investigate, including Comey's documented testimony before the Senate.

DJ Trump is looking more and more like an unconstitutional tyrant committing crimes and misdemeanors left and right.

That's the long and short of it.

There is no legitimate criticism for anything Comey said or did.

The ball is now in Mueller's court.

And Trump is on thin ice.

You will be sad here soon. As it is you last best hope was borne out to be just another money grubbing politition who sold out his prescous FBI for ten million bucks. I wonder if his FBI pals still thing he is the symbol of leadership and discipline he claims. Doubt it.

A few of my FBI friends tell me Comey is a disgrace and has disgraced the Agency. They feel their integrity is now tarnished by his acts... The majority of agents do not support him and want him charged. There is a sever backlash coming for Comey.

For this reason you can bet a Special Counsel will be in charge of this investigation.

And those off the wall questions that come up now and again. I agree, something is up. May not be so good for Trump, but I'm thinking that ain't the case.

All of yosirio's fantasy's are demonstrably false. When Mueller gives his report there are going to be some very upset democrats.

Disappointed at a minimum.

 

[Reasonable]

The damaging case against James Comey


1. After calling Comey a “showboat” and poor director, Comey proceeded to commit an unethical and unprofessional act in leaking damaging memos against Trump.

2. Comey described a series of ethical challenges during his term as FBI director. Yet, he almost uniformly avoided taking a firm stand in support of the professional standards of the FBI.

3, Trump allegedly asked for Comey to drop the investigation of Michael Flynn or pledge loyalty, Comey did not tell the president that he was engaging in wildly inappropriate conduct. He instead wrote a memo to file and told close aides. He now says that he wishes he had the courage or foresight to have taken a stand with the president.


4.However, the clearest violation came in the days following his termination. Comey admits that he gave the damaging memos to a friend at Columbia Law School with the full knowledge that the information would be given to the media. It was a particularly curious moment for a former director who was asked by the president to fight the leakers in the government. He proceeded in becoming one of the most consequential leakers against Trump.

. 5.He did not confer with the FBI or the Justice Department. He did not ask for any classification review despite one of the parties described being the president of the United States. He simply sent the memos to a law professor to serve as a conduit to the media.

6. Comey asked why Trump would ask everyone to leave the Oval Office to speak with Comey unless he was doing something improper. Yet, Trump could ask why Comey would use a third party to leak these memos if they were his property and there was nothing improper in their public release.

7. (Comey) is suggesting that any federal employee effectively owns documents created during federal employment in relation to an ongoing investigation so long as they address the information to themselves. FBI agents routinely write such memos in investigations. They are called 302s to memorialize field interviews or fact acquisitions. They are treated as FBI information.

8.The Justice Department routinely claims such memos as privileged and covered by the deliberative process privilege and other privileges.

He just woke up in the middle of night upset about Trump’s name calling and released the damaging information. In doing so, he used these memos not as a shield but a sword.

9. Besides being subject to nondisclosure agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and unclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641

10. When Comey released the information, he knew that he was going to be called to Congress where he could disclose this information properly after giving the White House a chance to claim privilege. Instead, he decided to release the information early. Why?


11. The fact is that the leaking of the memos worked to the advantage of James Comey, not Robert Mueller. Comey was able to take over the narrative and news cycle after Trump had publicly belittled him and his record.


12. (Trump) was able to bait Comey with his tweets and cause Comey to diminish his own credibility. If the comments of Trump were grossly inappropriate, Comey’s response to those comments were equally
inappropriate.

OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey

This puts the entire narrative in the proper perspective. When trying to attack Trump in a "he said - he said situation," Comey has put himself in a dubious position which actually makes you wonder about his integrity and ability to overcome the fight for revenge when following the rules and laws put before him as an agent of the government.
He may very well put himself in jeopardy more that he put Trump.

Afraid to discuss the real damaging case on Trump. Of course you are.

 

[candycorn]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Incorrect.

See policy guidelines N W posted above.

Well, the last President who claimed it was shot down by Federal Judges:

Washingtonpost.com Special Report: Clinton Accused

 

[candycorn]

Comey was covering his ass because he knew he was dealing with a shady liar .

He was right to do so . Imagine the he said / she said if he didn't .

And can any Trump supporter seriously harp on the lynch word change compared to what trump tried to do!?

He knew he did wrong and has now been busted for it. The wrath is coming for him.

What was wrong ? Not everything is "calssified " . Especially crimes by husband superior.

Conversations with the POTUS are when you work for US Gov

Really ? So if he wished comey a happy birthday he can't repeat that ?

Timmy, the president and the FBI director were discussing open cases. That is likely privileged where "Happy Birthday" certainly doesn't rise to that level. lol But nice try.

No, the President was asking Comey to stop an investigation that was going to be politically damaging for his administration. Do illegal commands, in your fantasy land, also carry executive privilege????

 

[Reasonable]

So, when are those charges going to be filed?

Answer: Never.

The Trump team won't file any actual charges, because, being Comey did nothing wrong or illegal, they know filing fake charges would leave them wide open to Abuse of Power complaints, which might get them disbarred.

That is, you Trumptards fell hard for a scam, like you always do. Everyone else but you sees it, which is why we're all laughing.

They are already preparing a legal case.

Who is? Do you have a link?

Trump’s personal lawyer threatens legal action against Comey

Means absolutely nothing. Trump sues everyone. He has 5,000 open lawsuits at the moment. When the whiny little bitch doesn't get his way, he sues.
He even sued Bill Maher when Bill accused his mother of being an orangutan. He wanted to see Trump's birth certificate. LolTrump backed down. Bill won. He'll back down against Comey too.

 

[Crixus]

The damaging case against James Comey


1. After calling Comey a “showboat” and poor director, Comey proceeded to commit an unethical and unprofessional act in leaking damaging memos against Trump.

2. Comey described a series of ethical challenges during his term as FBI director. Yet, he almost uniformly avoided taking a firm stand in support of the professional standards of the FBI.

3, Trump allegedly asked for Comey to drop the investigation of Michael Flynn or pledge loyalty, Comey did not tell the president that he was engaging in wildly inappropriate conduct. He instead wrote a memo to file and told close aides. He now says that he wishes he had the courage or foresight to have taken a stand with the president.


4.However, the clearest violation came in the days following his termination. Comey admits that he gave the damaging memos to a friend at Columbia Law School with the full knowledge that the information would be given to the media. It was a particularly curious moment for a former director who was asked by the president to fight the leakers in the government. He proceeded in becoming one of the most consequential leakers against Trump.

. 5.He did not confer with the FBI or the Justice Department. He did not ask for any classification review despite one of the parties described being the president of the United States. He simply sent the memos to a law professor to serve as a conduit to the media.

6. Comey asked why Trump would ask everyone to leave the Oval Office to speak with Comey unless he was doing something improper. Yet, Trump could ask why Comey would use a third party to leak these memos if they were his property and there was nothing improper in their public release.

7. (Comey) is suggesting that any federal employee effectively owns documents created during federal employment in relation to an ongoing investigation so long as they address the information to themselves. FBI agents routinely write such memos in investigations. They are called 302s to memorialize field interviews or fact acquisitions. They are treated as FBI information.

8.The Justice Department routinely claims such memos as privileged and covered by the deliberative process privilege and other privileges.

He just woke up in the middle of night upset about Trump’s name calling and released the damaging information. In doing so, he used these memos not as a shield but a sword.

9. Besides being subject to nondisclosure agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and unclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641

10. When Comey released the information, he knew that he was going to be called to Congress where he could disclose this information properly after giving the White House a chance to claim privilege. Instead, he decided to release the information early. Why?


11. The fact is that the leaking of the memos worked to the advantage of James Comey, not Robert Mueller. Comey was able to take over the narrative and news cycle after Trump had publicly belittled him and his record.


12. (Trump) was able to bait Comey with his tweets and cause Comey to diminish his own credibility. If the comments of Trump were grossly inappropriate, Comey’s response to those comments were equally
inappropriate.

OPINION: The damaging case against James Comey

This puts the entire narrative in the proper perspective. When trying to attack Trump in a "he said - he said situation," Comey has put himself in a dubious position which actually makes you wonder about his integrity and ability to overcome the fight for revenge when following the rules and laws put before him as an agent of the government.
He may very well put himself in jeopardy more that he put Trump.

Afraid to discuss the real damaging case on Trump. Of course you are.

It has been discussed adnauseam. Whet we are discussing now is how it's unraveling and the pendulum is beginning to swing the other way.